Change my mind. Pro-tip you cant.
Christmas is a Christian holiday, that celebrates family and the birth of christ
I unironically want to live in a mcmansion with all my heart
But Saturnalia, the Roman holiday on the 25th of December is Pagan.
If Christmas is the celebration of Christ's birth, then what is New Years?
Check Mate.
>what is new Year's
Judaized form of the celebration of Ragnarok (or its various equivalents in other forms of paganism)
Shopping is the reason for the season.
You are correct. Happy birthday “King of the Jews”. I wonder how he got that title?
It‘s a Pagan roman holiday like most Christian holidays. The fest was called Saturnalia. It‘s easier to adopt if you keep the traditions
They killed him because he dared to claim he would save the jews (and the whole world) the jews gave him that name before they killed him to mock him.
Christians subverted the European tradition of Yule to make their sandnigger religion seem "just like us".
I'm not a Christian, but I like Christianity and how easily it BTFOs Jews and libtards.
Christmas is the most beautiful time of year.
Ragnarok is an event, you don’t celebrate it
We don't celebrate Christmas though. We celebrate joulu (yule).
St. Claus doesn't visit us. Us visits joulupukki (yule goat).
How's that Christian?
Wrong. Pagans and jews and gentiles all had a celebration for the winter solstice, Christmas is not your sun god holiday anymore....he wasnt born on dec 25th...the winter solstice is dec 21st....christmas is a Christian holiday no matter how hard you try to larp about it the fact remains.
>being this bluepilled
It’s a white peoples holiday it just happens to be about Jesus right now
OR he was at the center of the biggest Jewish psyop in the history of mankind. Which seems more likely?
>muh synagogue of satan
Part of the psyop. “I think the Jews are evil! I couldnt possibly have allegiance to them, go... gUys.”
Color me confused
It's not a debate. CHRISTmas
Yule is celebrating the sun, life, and springtime returning after the darkest days of winter.
>be you
>be christian faggot you (you but you pretend to care what some old book written by jews says)
>see tyrome raping his way across europe
>you cant get a date
>bitcoin dies and takes with it countless white peoples savings
>its so cold your now a tranny
>kids in schools arent allowed to defend themselves against adult rapist if they are muslims
>but thank god some jew died 2k years ago amirite
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*slides a gun across the table
Subverted to normalize a sandnigger religion in Europe.
A corrupt capitalist holiday
no it was the feast of sol invictus
Christmas is Mystery Babylonian not Christian
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In modern America it's a holiday celebrating Capitalism. The state has made it illegal to celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday
Why would that be a challenge? It sure as hell isn't muslim or hindu. Whether the majority of people on earth even care about the religious aspect or not is a different story. It's a consumer holiday mostly in America - probably a lot of white places. To avoid religious overtones, marketers turn to frosty the snowman and santa claus to pitch their sales. While both are honestly just as fictional as jesus christ himself, they don't distinctly convey religion, so even those with no religious affiliation may celebrate with their friends and boost profits. Granted, those with strong opposing religious convictions or other views that don't include being a slave to marketers (Judaism, Islam, being rational) aren't likely to celebrate anyway because they won't be easily fooled into being festive and blowing their money on bullshit just cuz it's that time of year again.
Yes, christmas is a christian holiday. Who said it wasn't?
They're roomy in the places you don't use and impossible to heat efficiently. Every design aspect is intended to attract you aesthetically, but be non-functional in reality. Some of the foyers are bigger than my first home's family room. The good thing is that you can still find them on foreclosure, so if you can't resist, look for a creaming deal. You'll need the savings to keep it warm in the winter and cool in the summer.
>But Saturnalia, the Roman holiday on the 25th of December is Pagan.
This is intentional. When Rome was converted to Christianity, similarities had to be retained in order to make the transition smoother.
>If Christmas is the celebration of Christ's birth, then what is New Years?
A miracle of religion. God doesn't need to explain himself to you.
Not trying to.
Merry Christmas!
To be safe for all eternity:
A: Admit that you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God, and that you need a Saviour.
B: Believe that Jesus Christ, Son of God & Messiah, died for you sins and rose again, as prophesied and recorded in the Word of God. Trust in His finished work.
C: Call on His name, ask Him to save you, and confess that He is Lord.
Some resources that may help:
TTB.org has a verse by verse Bible Study for download or daily listening.
Chuck Missler’s Learn the Bible in 24 Hours (youtu.be
Robert Breaker’s Bible Study and Topical Sermons (youtu.be
The End is nigh. Tomorrow may be too late.
>how easily it BTFOs Jews and libtards
You do realize that this is a perspective, not an empirical fact, right? Ideologies are only comparable based upon an individual's desires, so even those who claim to want an ideology of meekness and servitude are still serving their desires, because their perspectives are as such that that particular lifestyle would please them in some way, fulfill their desire to be pure in some way intellectually, or spiritually, if you prefer. To someone who would choose a liberal perspective, christianity wouldn't necessarily suit their plans for themselves or their future, so the ideologies contained therein don't BTFO anything to that individual. Nothing about it would even register as a compelling challenge to someone without that mindset. It really only appeals to someone searching for that.
tl;dr
fuck off libtard.
Whatever. You didn't read it like a petulant 23 year-old. How do you know what my perspective is.
Keep crying, libtard boomer.
I don't need to change your mind but your holiday is based off of a Pagan drinking festival where they sacrificed livestock to appease Odin.
Ok, you're just a troll. Have a nice evening, kid.
Gotta love them asbestos lined walls and lack of steadfast for the weathers. They do look comfy nonetheless
please look up the Youtube channel "christmasisalie". You're wrong that this date has anything to do with Christ, in fact it's based on practices explicitly forbidden in the Bible for being pagan
>asbestos lined walls and lack of steadfast for the weathers
Hahaha. What?
It does because they choose it to be so. That's all they need. That's all they've ever had, and it's all they've ever had to have. They even get tax exemptions because they say so. Rationale doesn't work, but I applaud your effort.
>be me
>live in slav country, kind of a shithole
>education is not doing too good, but at least there arent many shitskins so people arent that dumb
>economically fucked, small city, grey sky 90% of the year, feel like Im living in silent hill
>new year is arriving
>realize its become a consumerist holiday focused on making people buy uneeded shit
>go to the main town street
>its completely decorated, this rarely happens
>some group of friends is playing "Jingle Bells" on speakers and the 90ish people walking down the main street can hear it
>absolutely amazing christmass spirit
>see people buying gifts
>see people sharing with the poor
>buy a couple of candy bars and give them, plus some money, to a homeless white child
>he shares with some old homeless guy
>me and my friend(sort of redpilled) talk to them
>we then proceed to meet the rest of our friends
>realize how uncorupt and noncucked your people are no matter that their not living in high standards
>enter warm restourant
>see cute girl
>feel
>comfy
It's at times like these that I realize what beauty the kike elite is trying to destroy
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It's a time of year for people to argue about the meaning of this time of year. Christ is the subject the target the reason and the meaning. That is all.
Pict somewhat but not totally kind of maybe related
To be fair its a pagan holiday adopted by Christians to celebrate winter solstice as Jesus birth day.
Sort of. The date and celebrations were merged for the convenience of the transition to christianity, like all pagan/christian holidays. Mythology is fascinating.
Christianity bends over backwards to save souls, but it can only bend so far.
The concepts of sin and a soul are both purely religious.
meh, I'm not religious but I have a soul.
Fuck you, atheist scum. The concepts of sin and soul may have been first described by a bunch of sand nigger migrants, but they were on to something that can be observed.
EVERY PERSON GENERATES A UNIQUE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD. If the field is not unique, they are "le NPC" or what have you and should be treated as such until they start generating a unique signature.
You are allowed to believe so. I don't have proof otherwise, but the concept is a religious creation.
>but they were on to something that can be observed
I hit a nerve. I didn't judge; I merely stated a fact. Your reaction is on you.
>EVERY PERSON GENERATES A UNIQUE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD. If the field is not unique, they are "le NPC" or what have you and should be treated as such until they start generating a unique signature.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, fella, but as long as you do, that's what's important.
clever tactic, say christmas is dec 25th when
it's not the birthday of Zeus but the birthday
of nimrod, then attack Christmas so all the
mind controlled people protect it thus
protecting nimrod and slapping god across
his face so hard it doesn't do anything.
I hate to say it, but nimrod is mythology too, so technically, it's all lies. I'm not disputing the date, though. Could be. I don't really know or care much about nimrod.