What the fuck does the Schwarze Sonne/Black Sun mean?

What the fuck does the Schwarze Sonne/Black Sun mean?
It was constructed in Wewelsburg Castle on Himmler's orders, but no one really knows what does it represent. It's getting more and more popular, but we still don't know shit about it.
We don't even know if it's called "Black Sun", only some author named it like this in the 1990s.

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thule-italia.net/esoterismo/Libri/Tedesco/Eiwatz - Die Schwarze Sonne.pdf
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>What the fuck does the Schwarze Sonne/Black Sun mean?
saturn.

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Only true Aryans can behold the light of the black sun

>It was constructed in Wewelsburg Castle on Himmler's orders
No it was there already. It use to be a golden sun. It was the inlay.

Later CIA started bluepilling and trying to create (((esoteric))) cults from it. Then Jow Forums took it over and made it cool again.

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>It was the inlay.
The black was the inlay

I like to think it represents the dawn of an age of fascism and strength for a nation, with newfound courage in their race.

But I’m a faggot so what do I know

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12 is a mythical number, just like 3 and 7, it's not that strange.

Some secret knowledge to do with 12.

12 seasons. 12 Knights of the round table. Etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublime_number
>In number theory, a sublime number is a positive integer which has a perfect number of positive factors (including itself), and whose positive factors add up to another perfect number.
>There are only two known sublime numbers, 12 and 6086555670238378989670371734243169622657830773351885970528324860512791691264.


12 x 1 = 12 = 2+1 = 3
12 x 2 = 24 = 2+4 = 6
12 x 3 = 36 = 3+6 = 9
12 x 4 = 48 = 4+8 = 12 = 1 + 2 = 3
12 x 5 = 60 = 6
12 x 6 = 72 = 7+2 = 9
12 x 7 = 84 = 8+4 = 12 = 1+2 = 3
12 x 8 = 96 = 9+6 = 15 = 1+5 = 6
12 x 9 = 108 = 1+8= 9
12 x 10 = 120 = 1+2 = 3
12 x 11 = 132 = 1+3+2 = 6
12 x 12 = 144 = 1+4+4 = 9

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I don't think 12 is the only thing, tho

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I was about to make a thread about it, magyarbro. Seems like none truly knows its meaning.

The Earth is flat.

But personally, I think the thing with the 3 swastikas is just forcing the pieces together

I think it's also linked to some old Germanic ornaments, but it sounds kinda bullshit to me.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zierscheibe
I mean there were more popular Germanic symbols than this one and the Black Sun symbolizes something, it's not just some decoration.

Exactly. All I find is "it was used by SS in Wewelsburg" and "muh nazi occultism/esotericism", "muh energy to destroy the untermensch".

But when it comes to the actual meaning of the symbol itself: absolutely nothing.

The whole thing with Satanists is fucking absurd.
Those fags are Unoriginal: The Cult
>Stole St Peter's cross
>Stole the alchemical symbol of Brimstone
>Stole the Black Sun
fuck those cuck larpers

THIS COPY/PASTA CIA SHIT

He has two threads now

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Satanists are retards.

signs and symbols rule world my son.

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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun"

Nigger, what?

It's Odin's eye, bloodshot and dilated with battle frenzy.

smoke dmt you'll see it
the lesser light of the subconcious mind

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its the large hadron collider, it is trapping particles, destroying the universe and all of creation,

I know, dude. but what the fuck does the black sun mean? That's all I want to know and I don't give a damn about other details.

how do we repair it.

Don't know if legit, but sounds interesting.

look at things geometrically

Maybe its supposed to mean nothing? A blank slate, for ideologies that have been virtually eliminated or for people who identify with nobody. Maybe it's supposed to represent an ideology that's so rejected by most people and vehemently pushed away that it can't have a face.

christ

by accepting him?

it represents hyperborea, dwelling place of the elder race from which aryans descend

>everything is saturn

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>But when it comes to the actual meaning of the symbol itself: absolutely nothing.
You're not going to find much outside of the SS and edgy satanists with a simple internet search. You're going to have to dive into some serious esoteric and traditional writings that deal with alchemy and other things of that nature. Thousands of years have similar symbol that is used to represent a "negative" sun in conjunction with the concept of "as is above, so is below" in the sense that there is a source of power that is immaterial. The sun is a material source of power and strength in many of these traditions, so in terms of esoteric though there must also be an immaterial source of power and strength. Tapping this source of power and strength is brings man closer to divinity.

The black sun also has 12 arms, which as you can see in this .gif correspond with solar cycles and seasonal changes. These fit will with zodiac symbols, which belive it or not are not just for LARPing basic white bitches but are alchemical symbols with meaning.

There are many meanings to this kind of stuff and you have to dive into it to figure it out. I'd recommend starting with the Hermetic Tradition by Evola. It's a dense read but its one of the best overviews of esoteric and hermetic symbolism you're going to find.

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Symbolizing a central figure and/or an authoritarian state, maybe?

Really helpful, thank you! (Gonna read "Ride the Tiger" first, though)

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Yeah. The idea behind this type of metaphysical symbolism is that it represents a very real and mundane concept. Constant order in the Heavens, constant order on Earth.

Opposite of the swastika
Hackenkreuz is the sun and the cycles
Sonnenrad is everything else

>What the fuck does the Schwarze Sonne/Black Sun mean?
it's a gateway to pic related

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Just look at it dumbass. What's it look like? What's a black sun? A sun is a star, and a black star is a black hole. It's our galaxy circulating around our black hole. The ancients had knowledge of its existence.

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kek

i think that the ancient had knowledge of ur mum's butthole.

How close are we from a french revolution/civil war, mes fréres?

yup

frères*

soon

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It's just the Germans making the sun symbol look more pagan

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>Gonna read "Ride the Tiger" first, though
Nope. Pic related. If you're going to try and make sense of half this crap you've got to do it right. Ride the tiger isn't going to make a lick of sense if you don't have some context because that's how Evola writes. If you really want to cheat your way through it;
>Hermetic Tradation
>Revolt Against the Modern World
>Men Among the Ruins
>Ride the Tiger

Add Pagan Imperialism if you feel the need to go deeper before Revolt.

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Himmler invented a cool looking symbol because why the fuck not. Larping retards who do not know shit about history and buy into the rrreee nazis were devil worshipper shit invented by the Jew have created a ton of gay fan fiction around it.

Die

They want you to think the earth is round because that would mean there are limited resources. The earth is flat and there is unlimited resources, over the arctic wall is another society that wants us to fight over the limited land so only the strongest society comes out on top to join the ice wall society

Admiral Byrd, Antarctic Treaty, Nazi bases in Antarctictica, fucked up flight paths, Navy missile lasers staying level on water for over 100 miles, NASA fakery.

The sun and Moon are exactly the same size. Tides do not correspond to any model of gravity currently on the table. We only ever see one face of the moon. THERE IS NO SOUTHERN POLE STAR. THE STARS SWEEP ACROSS THE SKY. GOD IS REAL AND THE EARTH IS FLAT!!! SPREAD LOVE!!

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>At some point in the future we're gonna look back and say "how did we do it WITHOUT SPACE"
youtube.com/watch?v=M_D4i3CLNqU&feature=youtu.be&t=1740
"What an amazing cheat... thing you've done" Trump says to the Satanic NASA propagandist at approximately 17:50

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It's nothing but symbology like the rest of the other symbols.
Fuck off, go read some Proclus, Plato and Plotinus before spouting mysticism bullshit.

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You don't even know what the sun is. You probably think it's burning hydrogen or some stupid shit that the media told you.
Saying the earth is "flat" or "round" is stupid either way because both are idealizations and absolutes. There is nothing absolute nor symbolic about reality. "It is".

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Gonna read in that order.

You’re wrong. The earth is very obviously a dodecahedron.

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>go read plato
>implying plato didn't have his esoteric writings
>implying any of the classic philosophers didn't have some understanding of esoteric concepts
>le edgy anime antihero
Faggot.

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Giving a simple answer. this is what it means... more complex not giving.

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It symbolizes a Nazi's butthole before it gets fucked hard by the Allies.

The swastika is an ancient symbol used by many different cultures from all over the world.

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It is the power of the universe, it is the unknown that we already known, it is the collective unconscious of the Aryan, it is the dark side of the sun, unseen when drawn back to the east, it is The All.

where does santa live?
in the axis mundi :)

nailed it

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whatever dude the Americans came to steal shit to keep up with the Russian's.

It's almost as if the stars haven't changed even though we're spinning through the galaxy at 55k miles per hour in some random direction

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>implying plato didn't have his esoteric writings
No he really didn't. In fact most of what he taught was simply reteachings and stories that Socrates taught him.
>implying any of the classic philosophers didn't have some understanding of esoteric concepts
What exactly do you think being a philosopher entails? It's not that they kept it secret, it was because most were too stupid to understand it.

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That's always been strange to me. I know there are minute changes over long periods of time, but it seems like our skies, day and night, would be drastically different all the time.

Look at the spaces between the black lines, it’s obviously a bunch of feet going around in a circle, it means “Keep on truckin’”

so God basically?

this.

youtube.com/watch?v=ezzwEjNHk_U

>12 seasons
American education

Salami is just jelly cuz oniy one season in italy: open season on white pussy for rapefugee eggplant brigade

thule-italia.net/esoterismo/Libri/Tedesco/Eiwatz - Die Schwarze Sonne.pdf

I've been working on a theory that unifies the mathematics of complex networks with the beliefs of tradition.

We take as foundational the Apollo/Dionysus dialectic, and the finding that in complex regulatory networks the emergent properties that define life are only present in a narrow band of connectivities. An ordered network is sparsely connected; a disordered network is densely connected. On the razor thin margin between them, the mathematical foundations of homeostasis, flexibility/metastability, and archetypes/cell types emerge (these merge together in a single property too deep to go into now). To step outside of this margin is certain death -- whether it means rupturing a cell wall so that its internal chemistry becomes a subject of an external network, or a revolutionary socialist government seizes power and connects all nodes together.

I would argue the Black Sun is a revolutionary symbol; it stands for the proliferation of selective nodes. That is, most of the time, to engage the proliferative force of Dionysus (primordial chaos; darkness) naturally leads to a densely connected network. However, if nodes are proliferated that are only sparsely connected because of their internal properties, then total connectivity in the network drops. These are the people on the line, the wall against chaos, and true adherents of Apollo despite their proliferative methods. This is the power of the Black Sun, and on the chaotic, Dionysian Jow Forums, it is our core. We are in an eternal war, especially against the inverse, those who eliminate selective nodes to free the proliferative power -- a Solar Darkness perhaps (the difference of Apollo in bondage of Dionysus, versus Dionysus chained to Apollo)

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This. It’s Jewish bullshit.

nice
nobody ever says this and I don't know why
actually I know exactly why

redpilled me on astrology

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The black sun is simply a diametric representation of order. It doesn’t mean Saturn like all these faggots think it represents the polar opposite of the sun

At least post the real ver not the edited ver, you subhuman kike

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>No he really didn't.
That's where you're wrong bucko.
ndpr.nd.edu/news/philosophy-between-the-lines-the-lost-history-of-esoteric-writing/

rly made me think

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All I know is that the black sun is a reference to Saturn, our original brown dwarf sun.

It hearkens back to the golden age of man before the flood and all that shit.

Saturn worship is real, I just don't know enough to judge it yet. Most of it seems sick in the head though. Maybe the occult Nazis were based though. Just can't tell.

This guy gets it

he posted the real one you fucking idiot

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Evola is a neet

LEVEL UP

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It has nothing to do with Saturn. Why would a sun be used to represent Saturn? It is an immaterial representation of the sun from a dualistic perspective. The sun creates order from outside the black sun creates order from the inside or destroys false order from the inside....

Kali = race mixing goddess

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>Saturn worship is real, I just don't know enough to judge it yet. Most of it seems sick in the head though. Maybe the occult Nazis were based though. Just can't tell.
CIA propaganda.

AS I SAID Jews worship Saturn/EL