Today at church my priest gave a scathing homily about Martin Luther, Protestantism and Jews. Does he lurk here?

I am overjoyed to see that you were listening brother.

Protestantism is just a fundamentally wrong approach to theology.

I don't know the Latin names, but I'm pretty sure most Lutherans and even other Protestants believe in sola faith, grace, scripture, and Christ (and another one too which currently escapes me)

Any arguments to justify your claim user?

Sola Fide is the belief that salvation is rquires faith alone rather than requiring righteous works as well. (No Christian sect teaches works alone will save since Christianity is not an orthopraxic religion by nature).

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Sure, the Solas are entirely an invention of Luther with no basis in the Christian Tradition. And effectively make every blowhard his own authority supreme on doctrine.

There are seven solas. You can google that specific expression to know everything you need to about the subject.

That's the point, really. The "Christian Tradition" is anything but. The "Church Fathers" were too enamored of Greek Phylosophy and hammered it into the Christian Faith. This is your "Christian Tradition".

No. It is not.

Sola Fide is the belief that salvation comes through faith and not through righteous works.

Righteous works are a sign of a living faith.

Essentially, you cannot "buy" your salvation.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_solae

I stand corrected. Seven Sola is a different tradition.

And there you say it. You say righteous works is a "sign". One theoretically could be saved without any righteous works whatsoever and as such they are strictly not required but instead can be used as an indicator of someone's salvation. Some groups actually go as far as saying that it is impossible to lose salvation, no matter how heinous the sins, if you have already gained it. Sola gratia, is the belief that salvation is unmerited and is purely from God.

Yes. And the Five Solae work together.

One could theoretically be saved without any righteous works, and probably many will. Sincerely, what righteous works had the criminal hanged by the side of Christ? One single act of admonition of another criminal, in his last moments of life? How exactly does it counter his entire life of crime and sin? And yet we both know Christ promised him salvation.

based and redpilled. my priest is a boomer neo-con and loves to talk about why identity politics are bad and all that gay shit.
it could be worse though. he's pretty hard-line on social issues at least.

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>Sure, the Solas are entirely an invention of Luther with no basis in the Christian Tradition. And effectively make every blowhard his own authority supreme on doctrine.
This to a degree. Luther's doctrines indeed had no basis in Christian traditions. The five Solae are entirely innovations from the 16th century. However is right that Christian Tradition had become heavily paganized especially after Christianity became tolerated in the Roman Empire in 316. Protestantism is basically a Judaizing movement trying to remove the pagan (ie. Gentile) influence and keep only that which is from the kikes and they took away the sacraments of the Eucharist, Reconciliation, and Holy Orders for good measure. Protestantism is cucked by nature and is a hilarious attempt to make Christianity as cucked as humanly possible.

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And the correct alternative is the heavily paganized version?

It's not so much that they Judaized it, as they just butchered it. As far as this claim about cuckery, the likes of Martin Luther and Calvin while being blowhards, were not in any sense cucks as we understand it today.

Moreover this idea that Catholicism or Eastern Orthodox are paganized is heavily overstated, the only thing remotely "pagan" about them is that they offer a lesser form of worship known as veneration to Saints and Angels; though I don't see how this isn't necessary consequence of Christian cosmology and is instead some kind of syncretism.

Influential theologians such as Aquinas, Augustine, etc. bent Christianity to fit with pagan Greek philosophy, Feast dates and even days having pagan origins, the most insane and cucked moral doctrines changed, such as those on topics like war and money, vestments, certain rituals regarding the sacraments particularly the Eucharist. There is a lot of pagan goy influence and goy influence in general on Christianity. It is not all jewish,

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Yea, I don't buy it. While certainly some Greek philosophies were used to express Christian revelation, mostly Aristotle and Plato, this was no a warping of Christian doctrines as much as it was using these philosophies to help express it.

The Eucharist is plainly instituted by Christ, Vestments go back to the Levitical priesthood, war to the Old Testament.

All of these supposed pagan things are often just religious practices common to all religions.

Totally agree it’s funny these “neo pagans” don’t see they old faith lives on thru Catholicism syncretic nature that’s why we have celebrations like Easter ..All Souls days .. and veneration of the saints prayers to the dead

All Europeans were catholic at one point

The main issue is that Jesus Christ or God knows all the hearts of men, so whatever works you did don't mean anything if your heart is hard and cold, however, it's difficult to see someone doing good works with a hard heart, but it's possible to see someone not doing any works for whatever real world reasons but having a warm heart (for example, the guy who was in crucifixion with jesus at the side)

You can't just reason your way into Christianity, you need to have your heart/soul put into God, the mind will always try to reason his way into whatever the body needs, only a pure faithful heart can be consistent in life

Easter has almost nothing to do with paganism, the only other holiday it has any connection to is the Jewish passover.

The fact that you yourself said that they are practices common to all religions should tell you everything you need to know to reject those.

The Levitical Priesthood is gone. Unless you can claim to possess Aram's blood, you have no part on it, and even if you do, it was an exclusive pact between God and the people of Israel. It did not carry over to Christianity.

You just explained Sola Fide and Sola Gracia.

Easter is 100% pagan. Unless you can show where exactly in the Jewish Passover the Easter Bunny is present.

The most likely origin is the ancient springtime celebrations of Eostre.

Levitical priesthood did not carry over to Christianity as it was genetic and ceased applying after Jesus, but Jesus did institute a Christian priesthood by ordaining his apostles.
Yes but there was residual kike. The neo-pagans want to remove all the kike influence from the religious practices of Whites. In Christianity, the Scriptures are all kike, the Diety is a kike, the Apostles all kike, The Holy Land kike, the basic rituals are a foundation of kike merely paganized by goys, the basic theology all kike, the moral code kike. There is a lot kike in there.

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historyforatheists.com/2017/04/easter-ishtar-eostre-and-eggs/

>popery

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>unironically being papist

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What if eucharist should be literally a ritual like the old rituals where they butchered animals and drink their blood to calm god wrath? the thought of eucharist being something really important that the church just does wrong scares me

The Eucharist is the blood and flesh of Jesus Christ, the lamb of God.

Every time you participate in it, you are participating in Jesus's sacrifice.

But many take it just as "symbolic" meanwhile others thinks it's the literal body becoming flesh somehow, obviously the faith you have on the ritual should change all the outcome on how it affects your soul in the eyes of christ, probably 90% of christians just feel it's symbolic and doesn't mean anything other than remembering christ sacrifice

it's even worse when you consider it's the literal john 6:66 the part where it says many people just found it foolish and didn't took part on it

It is a dogma of the Catholic faith the the Eucharist really is in it's essence the body, blood, and divinity of Christ.

>mfw papist rhymes with rapist

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That's interesting, because today in church my priest criticized the Catholic church (as well as Jews). Also I know he lurks here. Cuckolicism is the worst.

>things that never happened