Okay guys. My brother is having a son, due ~jan/feb. He is completely opposed to circumcision...

There is no reason to not circumcise. It's cleaner and he avoids disease.

this was the best argument against mgm compilation i've found op. you don't even need to bring up kikes. will practically redpill a normie
youtube.com/watch?v=3z5OESt3TCg

Adults who do it later in life regret it.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11956453
archive.is/uHpoR

Fuck off jew

Mike drop

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Ask her if a clitorectomy is a reasonable routine procedure. Ask her if nerve endings should be removed from her body. Or just ask her simply: WHY would you circumcise your son? There is literally no medical indication for it. There have been a total of TWO studies on the benefits of circumcision. Both were conducted in AIDS-ridden Africa, where condoms were essentially non-existent and hygiene was extremely lacking in day-to-day life. Even so, the statistical "improvement" to STD rates was negligible. Furthermore, no study has been performed in the first world amongst a non-circumcised population to compare STD or UTI stats.

In other words: she literally does not have a leg to stand on. If she comes at you with the aesthetic angle, ask her if she's willing to trim her lips to fit in better.

If you're using your penis to lure a materialistic, superficial whore into a commitment, then I suppose they're the same.

> post your best anti dickslitting material

This should do it

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>cleaner
>healthier
what kind of ((( moron ))) believes this

Any mutt seeking cope.

He can always get circumcised later in life if he wants to.

>defends his abuser

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This guy is a tool and the vid is long, but he’s done his homework and doesn’t try to sugarcoat anything and he covers every argument in favor of it. If your sister in-law can watch this and still want it, I’d be surprised. I have some infographs I’ll add if I can find them.

youtube.com/watch?v=FCuy163srRc
Dodge the sign-in and use hooktube
hooktube.com/watch?v=FCuy163srRc

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He needs to man up and tell her to shut up and obey his orders.

Make them watch this.

youtu.be/FCuy163srRc

The whole thing. Anyone who does will never support mutilation again.

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>He doesn't know you can pull the skin back and clean it.
The head of the penis is extremely soft and sensitive tissue, the foreskin is there to protect it as one of its purposes. Is washing your dick really such a foreign idea to you and other cutfags?

All you have to do is show her a video of a bris.

Yet no one does. Really makes you think huh?

Almost like brainwashing is the only reason people do it and defend it.

Add "fe" before "male", watch roasties sperg out.

Simple, the procedure can be done later in life with the kid's consent.

Ask her why she think's depriving her son of the choice is fair?

We had this thread a few weeks ago. Is this the "circumcision query' board or something?

>why are people talking about mutilation that is prevalent in jew slave nations like america and still occurring and legal?

Gee sherlock who fucking knows. Fuck off. This is so important It should be covered by politicians and news everywhere

You don’t know the pain of being an American, our parents literally cut off part of our genitals - this fucks with your mind my Irish friend.

It's probably the only board that doesn't just parrot mainstream views. Jow Forums might agree with Jow Forums on this, but they would never make a real argument.

Humans evolved over millions of years to have a foreskin. It therefor would obviously have to provide a selective advantage. Why would you chop a part of your dick off.

Alright fair enough. My apologies. Have a random image to repair the mood.

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All is forgiven. I don't need an Irishman holding a grudge against me after all.

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just emphasize that the babe will go through extreme trauma and from there refer to it as child abuse
force her to acknowledge that its child abuse and she will have a hard time winning any argument
of course if your bro is a wimp that foreskin is as good as gone

Watch videos training how to preform it. I used to be for it until I saw how it was preformed.

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also the operation might go wrong and they may need to lob off more of the dick

Just play them the Klopper video. It is 2 hours, but I don't know how anyone could sit through it and be pro-circumcision.

Theres a lot of resources here, including videos and a list of possible complications

yourwholebaby.org

Tell him not to bring her to the hospital to deliver, hire an obstetrician and do it at home instead. He'll save a lot of money and it'll be much easier to avoid wiener choppers.

Because apparently girls will laugh at you if you don’t chop your dick off which is to me personally the best rationale I have ever heard to do anything. Also we must have bone through nose and kill brother lion or girls will laugh.

Tell them to sit down and watch through the Eric Clopper presentation.
This is about you the well-being of their child, so they be willing to sacrifice a few hours of research.
Link related.
youtube.com/watch?v=FCuy163srRc&

Also have them go through these sites. You should do so too, so you can counter any bullshit argument right away with a source.

yourwholebaby.org
circumstitions.com/coerce.html
circumstitions.com/

If the operating goes wrong, she won’t have grandchildren. Girls will revolt at his mangled dick.

Tell that cunt to chop off her clit

>let me take a knife to your dick
no

>argument
Just kill her as soon as the baby is born.

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Keep spreading the word man. Always glad to see you around

sadly this is the truth

Unironically this.

do what you can to make him oppose to her, but it's not your son after all
those kind of arguments can probably lead to divorce in murica lmao imagine being so mad about wanting to mutilate a dick

Remember this every time you see americucks shit talking. This is how cucked we are.

It isn't their choice. Tell the mother how much you resent and hate yours for making you go through such an unnatural act. If she makes the hygiene ask her if shell have him clean behind his ears, then why not under his foreskin? If she doesnt care about being hated, then tell your brother to grow a fucking pair of balls and to stop letting his wife make life-long, irreversible decisions for THEIR kid. If he decides to get a circumcision later in life, itll be his choice and easily covered by insurance, not forced on him by some cunt ass oppressive mother.

Sounds like he has a massive vagina.

>cleaner and avoids disease
Yeah if youre a dirty fuck who doesnt shower and adhere to basic hygiene. That's the biggest load of shit that is somehow still used an argument.

>There is no reason to not circumcise.
What about all of these fucking reasons, memeflag?

He should just make a deal that if their son is circumcised their daughters will be as well. Fair is fair.

Gotta drink that blood to help out with their tay sachs somehow. They didn't get the "vampire" moniker for just zero reason after all.. Fucking kikes getting the world to adhere to their shit fuck ass covenant with Saturn.

Imagine cutting off something that nature/God designed to protect one of the most vital and important parts of a man.

I fuckin hate this society so fucking much.

if you are struggling to find a convincing argument against mutilating a baby, you’ve already lost
might as well get all your teeth pulled off too since dentures are easier to maintain

“but FGM” is not a good argument for these people, they will just say men have it easier.
an equivalent to FGM would be to have the entire head of your dick chopped off

Here is all I have on the topic to stop people from doing it to babies:
pastebin.com/kYQer5zf

If someone wants to cut their own dick? Fine, but leave babies alone and shame the fuck out of anyone that wants to harm infants

it's probably more about having an argument that is convincing to the other part

Even though thats untrue. Most fgm is less invasive and extensive than mgm.

checked
infant genital mutilation is the worlds oldest trauma based mind control method and has been used for tens of thousands of years.
A tribe called Dan, who are listed in the torah no less, brought the barbaric procedure to the middle east at the dawn of the bronze age and used it in the founding of judaism and islam in order to control the minds of men

The most convincing case you could make is this.
“Why do you want to surgically remove part of your sons genitals?”
Then smack the bitch in the face with a shovel

traditions of mutilating or sexually abusing kids all seem to follow a pattern of pride over permanently damaging and depriving people from something they were naturally granted. still feels like yesterday when China decided to stop that bullshit of lotus shoes to make women suffer their whole lives with shrunken, deformed feet.
I’m sure that if the US government did a crackdown on FGM based on african and muslim traditions, some fuckheads would look up another macabre ritual to replace it like parental rape to remove virginity or a ceremonial injection of meth

guggiedaly.blogspot.com/2011/03/cost-of-circumcision.html?m=1
Read this. In case you forgot that the doctors and hospitals make money of cutting baby dicks, know that other industries make money off it.

>that’s untrue because “most FGM”...
that’s disingenous, it’s like saying “oh but some forms of MGM only involve a little stab with a needle”.
if it involves mutilating the clitoris, it is true. in terms of sensitivity they are just as effective.
the equivalent of removing a dick’s foreskin is like cutting of protruding labia majora. the clitoris and its hood are the most sensitive points, just like the dick’s head.

Tell him to tell the wife that the son can be circumsized if she agrees to have her labia and clitoris removed. AKA Female Genital Mutilation.

>traditions of mutilating or sexually abusing kids all seem to follow a pattern of pride over permanently damaging and depriving people
You could say the same of people who beat their kids. People always say
>hurr durr, my dad beat me, and I'm fine
And it's usually poor people, too. I I wouldn't call them fine, I'd call them poor.

No. Watch cloppers video. Not to mention only one percent of fgm cases remove as much as circumcision. Your perpetuating a myth

Just imagine for a second that one cereal salesman managed to con and ENTIRE FUCKING NATION into adopting a third world tradition of mutilating their babies reproductive organs based on OPINION.
There is NO, zero, zip, nada, NONE good things to come of circumcision.
>''B-but it's cleaner!''
You don't have showers in the US? You don't teach your children basic cleanliness and hygiene?

It's like watching someone with actual psychosis arguing for that there are dragons flying around in the sky because THEY can see them.

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he is amerigoy and shall be marked.

This always makes me laugh out loud, you guys are fucking hilarious

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You're retarded. Stop trying to make your brother justify why he shouldn't. Try making your sister in law justify why he should. I guarantee you her only reason is society. Then you pull the moral high ground of "why should society decide what's best for your kid. What kind of mother would let society tell her how to be a mother?" Women are emotional creatures, so play on the fact that she won't be a good mother for it. How do you get to adulthood without learning how to play women like a fiddle?

During the time it began even the Brits were doing it. Victorian times were fugged up.

beating kids is less of a cultural rite of passage and more of an admission of lack of arguments / incompetence at earning your kid’s respect.
when you beat a kid all you’re teaching them is that you can get what you want through violence and blackmail when “being nice” doesn’t work. it also teaches rhem that “being nice” is just a facade you use to persuade people and not an inherent part of your personality

>It's cleaner and he avoids disease
t. Mohammad

There are literally zero hygienic/health issues with an uncircumcised dick if you shower and wash your body parts

but then she’d just say “one day the kid will have to leave home and start going to school, kids grow up and integrate into society”

>It's cleaner and he avoids disease
In bronze age durkadurka land maybe, but now we have magic shit like soap and running water and fucking showers you filthy sandnigger jew asshole.

So? What does that have to do with anything. "So you're still basing your decisions on society then? No real medical reason, just simply the opinions of others? What kind of mother makes decisions based on the opinions of others?" It's easy. Really, just keep hinting that society should not choose how to raise her child. She is the mother and she knows there is no real reason for circumcision. Medically or otherwise.

read this
psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moral-landscapes/201501/circumcision-s-psychological-damage
also this
>A team of Canadian researchers produced evidence that circumcision has long-lasting traumatic effects. An article published in the international medical journal The Lancet reported the effect of infant circumcision on pain response during subsequent routine vaccination. The researchers tested 87 infants at 4 months or 6 months of age. The boys who had been circumcised were more sensitive to pain than the uncircumcised boys. Differences between groups were significant regarding facial action, crying time, and assessments of pain.
circumcision.org/infant-responses-to-circumcision/

Tell your bro to grow a pair and tell that cunt he'll do female circumcision on her if she circumcises the son.

BTW

>dicks head
>most sensitive

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I have seen this bullshit argument of “we prepare kids for the world, not for ourselves” over and over again. it’s really disheartening
>what kind of mother makes decisions based on the opinions of others
women form some kind of informal council in their families and social circle, specially in regards to seeking validation on parenting. people love to talk about patriarchy as if it’s a terrible and dominant dynamics controlling society but there’s some matriarchy at work in modern families too. both are natural and cultural consequences of society.

Just hand your phone to her with a video of a circumcision playing, she will change her mind if her heart has any compassion in it

I'm not talking about how many grams of actual healthy functional tissue is removed... That is irrelevant ... What is relevant, is removing some of the most sensitive skin on a human body ... labia is sensitive ... foreskin is sensitive ...
Religious cutting of flesh is barbaric primitive bullshit ... if it is done by jews, or mudslimes... or African pagan stone age people... but at least they have some sort of excuse...

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Interesting to note from my own research, parents who saw their sons being mutilated and heard the screams ended up regretting such an idiotic decision. If they didn't then they later did after changing the diaper and dealing with the bloody mess afterwards.

give your brother's wife a female circumcision, see how she likes it.

Yes but foreskin and the tissue removed during circumcision is the MOST sensitive. Look at this pic:
None is excusable but its time to stop pretending like fgm is way worse than mgm, thats not true.

>euro's don't do it and are fine, why should we?

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Show her Eric Cloppers presentatiton on circumcision.

It's on YouTube.

It's 2 hours long and it takes quite some time to get going.

But it's the most red pilling presentation ever.

No person who isn't a psychopath can watch the video in its entirety and would still have their child circumcised after they have watched that

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So simple yet idiots don't get it.

I wish every day of my life my body was left alone. For what's mine to be mine.