Long argument with a normie

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The only argument you should have on the subject is to get them to defend FGM as it is a direct counter part and has the same roots (ritual/religous implementation) make them backpedal and falter to peoples insane tendency to put females on a pedestal.

They self immolate and reveal how dumb they are by running in illogical circles condoning one act and rejecting the other when they are both the same.

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I think you're a faggot obsessed with dicks.

I'll try that next time

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I don't even know why this argument exists. Maybe because cutfags are defensive and become malicious? The only evidence you need in this debate is that the cons of circumcision outweigh the pros. We're talking about plastic surgery upon infants. Normie world is too bizarre.

Fuck off mutt

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True

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Nobody cares fuck off somewhere else for validation also you sound 16

doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/sexual-impact/

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Thanks for those

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you should also look into the application of the "bio-waste" after the procedure and show who actually "disposes"(cosmetic companies) of it.

It doesn't matter what you say, he'll defend his mutilation

Fuck off Muhammad if anything I 404ed a blacked thread

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Ask him how he feels about female circumcision

Why even argue? Look at his fucking username, he is a self admitted wage cuck for some whore. Do you think his girl was a virgin when they met? Of course not, but he still slaves away for the slut - just pity the rat boy. He is not only accepting of table scraps in his career, but also his bride.

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Interesting

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>losing pleasure
Dude just conceited his argument. What's the benefit to losing pleasure? Its like saying well you have two eyes losing one isn't so bad

Is this guy retarded?

It's obviously not about the absence vs the presence of pleasure, but about the degree to which that pleasure is felt in circumcised men vs non-circumcised men. Given that there's plenty of evidence to say that the foreskin helps in augmenting men's pleasure, removing it is likely to reduce pleasure.

Anyway, the natural state of the penis is with a foreskin, not without. He's the one who wants to apply a change to a natural state of things, ergo he's the one that has to provide the first justification.

Thanks

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You and that guy are autistic. Can we all just agree it's wrong to cut off healthy body parts from a person who can't consent?

That's what I thought

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you are both pretty shit at debating topics as well I might add, plesure is subjective and you should not base your whole argument on subjective arguments.

Use subjective points to draw in an emotive response and drop an objective point straight after and most NPCs will over-react and make their own argument crumble.

You should have made a link to FGM as that reduces pleasure right after your initial point and then state that "lol its just lost pleasure she can still feel something so dosent matter, lol"

Clearly we cannot all agree, as people like the dude in OPs text still think it’s cool to slice babies up

Stop waisting our time and just ask him what's obvious at this point from how he debates. Is he Jewish?

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Arguing about the sexual pleasure aspect comes of as cringe she degenerate though and makes the opposing side see you as a bitter self-interested person.

>wasting your time not explaining the JQ

Just send him a video of a circumcision of an infant boy and tell him to watch the whole thing

True
Thanks for the advive

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With this line of reasoning women should have mastectomy before puberty to reduce breast cancer

>(((studies)))
Studies are mostly a crock of shit and arent worth the paper they are written on

>researchgate.net/publication/325317372_Human_reactions_to_rape_culture_and_queer_performativity_at_urban_dog_parks_in_Portland_Oregon

This is one of many fake (((studies))) that was actually accepted and published as a hoax to show how corrupt academia is.

watermark.silverchair.com/dyr104.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAjwwggI4BgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggIpMIICJQIBADCCAh4GCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQM905CvAiL0nRRcn2oAgEQgIIB712r0mnhqNMzTVAAV6wqAFeZNdKC47qaLm-v1awHqrsg2WnT9cFUET3lDY5GSaH5hkebSJ4-gSJ1b28Bawu2LafTDzKDkNdCiWHTDwET_XUSpBHyi3J0LwfIeuYIRlwemDy9bYXDX3FwmEvEKOZK6K6-9NAyzQSKI_5LF16h4YKjrcpHhcI88mC67skdbUxHpY2sVln76tfBl0zCLEnE2JMZhmIJTQtr9WbHaBcUftgiV-CiPiprffvqm77GWDVkaDDXGpKiDCiseL2V_NzqhgS5VrqpCbMKvodty7WSb9AIXj0MelPFxO_AChip7Suj7sgEBVht1oJFHtWquIb5uzEME7ibDlO5VGhLR9TuamYbTTRZsbamTXecrg_IvsckelHwPsVf2fUdDXAunzgbqJpnRuso2cX1S96XFN-_O35qknSR8WFjulqzrdGE0HxDeoQzMDQMEHyxaZyd_ylelhRz4Eq2KcAha-COPOARnTG9GCjgV8BoC7aQZ2MRBt9P2rG-Qdx70fXhuTRQv4oK9W6E8jrI4Sh3RADkYHEmu3LP6DrxUvvtsnbIgddzs5Ds8WiQxksmrrxgpPMFVll9Roo14uLNeJPfFqIts6x3NU--7JVaEuzZqLRTz_4X-9BDXIftCIzqqJFqWkogSxq6pw

Circumcision associated with reduced pleasure and orgasm difficulties for danish men.

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2012.11761.x

Another study, same conclusions.

academia.edu/10553782/A_CDC-requested_Evidence-based_Critique_of_the_Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention_2014_Draft_on_Male_Circumcision_How_Ideology_and_Selective_Science_Lead_to_Superficial_Culturally-biased_Recommendations_by_the_CDC

Very long paper, shows a lot of studies done by CDC lack rigor and/or are biased.

Really

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user, this website lists 50+ studies, most of them peer-reviewed.

Just drop a few of them on him. I posted a few useful ones in other posts.

doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/for-professionals/sexual-impact/

Thanks leaf
I'll link the normie this

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send him this

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>I can't accept I was mutilated for no reason other than society saying it's good

non-censored one

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yes, these two guys are old school leftists and have been churning out bullshit studies just for laughs, they only redacted a few because they outed themselves and a few of their studies.

Their is a massive SJW agenda in academia to use studies like this to influence govt as politicians are dumb gullible fucks(see climate change, global warming)

Will do

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Again thanks for the redpill

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It's Child Abuse.
Slicing an 8 day old baby with a knife.
BLOOD pouring out,while the baby is screaming in pain.
What kind of person does that to an infant.
t's Child Abuse. SRA

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Why correlate flat eathers in this conversation? You suck at debating a point OP, just concede.

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What is this app, tinder for sperging debate clubbers?

Any way I'm cut and don't really care about the issue since it would be counterproductive mentally to dwell on something I can't change, but the idea that this bizarre practice we've only been doing a short while, vs. hundreds of thousands of years in tact, before antibiotics soap and modern hygiene, is a fucking retarded position to be pro towards. If you're arguing in favor of circumcision thinking there is some benefit you're just coping

How so?

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Sounds like you want to suck his dick

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Says the cartels trap

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Also never look at other peoples studies or never tell them you have, usually people stat snipe and show you a data set that is without its contextual make-up or further extrapolation from the author usually which is counter to their argument or that specific part had no conclusive results.

You keep repeating the same argument. If you wanted you could just get to the crux of the issue and ask why it's morally necessary to perform elective surgery on an infant, and if it's okay for males then surgically removing females breasts to prevent breast cancer is just as applicable. Instead your arguing about links.

I'm not the one asking random dudes to send dick pics

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Ok troll

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Holy shit, both of you are retarded and worthless at debating. Throughout this whole thread the only thing you've done is say "no you're wrong!". You've even been spoonfed arguments to use, fucking use them. FGM or consent, how fucking hard can it be? What are you, 14?

He is a retard but so are you

OK, keep talking to stranger's about dicks. It's not gay at all.

Post production I think

The STD thing is not even widely accepted. Some studies have maybe shown a benefit but thinking from an anatomy and physiology standpoint it makes very little sense as to why that might be.

New wave poltard getting (yous) I guess.

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It's absolutely disgusting that this woman views her hypothetical sons as a sex object for roastie pleasure, rather than desiring their own happiness.

Thats because it is the exact same as pulling out prostates to lower cancer rates

It's been disproved. The friction created by circumcision creates more tears in the membrane and this creates more opportunity for the spread of disease.

no one fucking cares you fucking retarded faggot go play your gay ass fortnite

Unless you guys really want more I'm done
the argument just goes in circles

Good info. I screen capped it for now. Phone posting.

You got btfo

post peen
they are both retards, hardly got owned rather just no you'ed the entire time

>sure, loss of some pleasure
>no loss of satisfaction

I know that pilpul, you're arguing with a jew. Not going to get anywhere with logic as he's on an unholy mission. Rewatch the Harvard jew's presentation and utilize how he appeals to his audience.

Here's the deal OP. I appreciate your efforts, yet I did not read the argument because I can predict it from start to finish. The truth is irrelevant to the masses and their feelings on the subject have already been pacified. Any argument on the subject of circumcision with a normies will likely just leave you both frustrated and amount to nothing. I'm not sure how to resolve the issue yet, but I suggest that you reserve your efforts for a more productive venue than a cellphone argument. Effecting large groups seems to be more effective, especially if you focus on creating chaos and don't appear to have a side. Humor with a slight edge can spread quite well. Logic, reason, and evidence serve only to reinforce feelings for most people.

The only argument that you need is that the victim did not consent to having their dick chopped up.
There is zero reason to chop someone's cock up.

Fgm
>countered with clipt removal is not the same as of foreskin
Different types of FGM - ask if removal if inner and outer labia is OK. Here you can throw back at them most of the argument they make for circumcision: it's cleaner, less of chance of vulvar cancer, it's prettier - absolutely make fun of beef curtains if they brought up a esthetics. Point out how labiaplasty is gaining popularity and why not perform surgery when girls won't remember
>you win

>arguing with a NPC

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I WONDER WHY IT GOES IN CIRCLES, HMMM? Could it be because you're a retarded 14 year old who can't argue for shit? HMMMM, yes my jimmies are tingling.

Takes two to build a spiral staircase that is a conversation. The dumbass wasnt accepting the premise that a human would be against it because it removes nerve endings and is barbaric (said it wasnt an argument, as in already been accepted) The only argument is fgm, its the most logical place, how u didnt get there on ur own is dumb, know your arguments.
I guess we could think about what else, has society accepted that is obviously wrong, marijuana legalization argument can help, in that the criminization is wrongfully accepted by a vocal minority.

Watch this. Show him this. It's circumcision destroyed in 2 hours.
youtube.com/watch?v=FCuy163srRc

wait what the fuck did no one check THE TRUTH?

lol you're right, checked nigga