washingtonpost.com/amphtml/religion/2018/12/09/another-jehovahs-witness-center-has-been-destroyed-month-rash-arson-attacks/ >Another Jehovah’s Witness center has been destroyed in 9-month rash of arson attacks >At the center of the investigation into crimes against Jehovah’s Witnesses — including two fires that destroyed worship centers — is a question that has vexed Washington state investigators, the governor and pretty much anyone who has come into contact with the religious denomination:
Who could muster this much destructive rage against a religion full of pacifists?
On Friday morning, Thurston County authorities responded to a predawn fire in the city of Lacey, Wash. But by the time firefighters arrived, it was too late. The blaze had caused the roof to collapse and destroyed the kingdom hall, the name Jehovah’s Witnesses give to their worship centers. What? Why? I know there's a conspiracy in New England to attack Amish farms for land grabbing ends, but why Jehova's Witness?
Probably someone pissed off at having his doorbell rung at 9 in the morning by a bunch of brain-washed rat fuckers.
Evan Ortiz
Where's your God now
Carson Nguyen
It's not like a Jehovas fucked his wife when he wasn't around
Zachary Gomez
My dad used to gide behind the house when hed see them riding up the street on their bikes and when theyd knock on our front door hed come around the corner with a hose and spray the fuckers down. I loved that shit and intend to carry on the tradition.
Alexander Stewart
>but why Jehova's Witness? Due to the non traditional stances promoted by this sect, there is ill will from former members and members loved ones.
Alexander Morris
Good. They are just a cult anyways.
Zachary Hernandez
“All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.”—2 Tim. 3:12.
This persecution is what Jehovah's witnesses have been preparing for for decades.
Care to give any examples? I knew a few crazy ex mormons that became very fedora-tier, or libshit catladies
Lincoln Walker
My parents were in this stupid cult when I was a kid. We were Catholics beforehand. I can honestly say I didnt mind organized religion until I met these retards. It could be literally anyone burning these places. Once a member gets kicked out they get shunned. Or once a family joins, they shun the rest of the family that isn't members. Its intention is to control weak people seeking approval.
Ayden Allen
Jahova's Witnesses are an actual cult that's why, like scientology tier.
John Phillips
I never minded talking to them, but the boys on bikes never seemed to provide any meaningful conversation, they always steered the conversation toward making me physically show up at one of their places of worship. Kinda lame, I grew bored of them, and just give them the cold shoulder now.
Ryder Clark
What about Jews?
Evan Fisher
Are they persecuted for their religion, or their politics?
Matthew Flores
Yup, it's cult tactics. Like a cult asking kids at a concert to "come chill at our commune."
Aiden Allen
I think you mean Mormons. Witnesses aren't known for riding bikes.
I always considered Mormonism and scie trilogy to be functionally similar, but based on what you say I may have to also include jehovas in that group as well.
Andrew Sullivan
Jehovah witnesses dont get involved in politics at all. They dont vote, run for political office, or even serve in military. Being a jehovah witness will even get you out of the draft in America.
>Who could muster this much destructive rage against a religion full of pacifists?
They're a cult that separates families, abuses kids, covers up sick shit, have backward insane ass beliefs Seriously, watch the video, he's an ex-member, sounds terrible.
Caleb Powell
Yeah, I know. I meant are the Jews persecuted for their religion or politics. You cant persecute JWs for politics.
Joseph Turner
It's most likely an ex-cult member taking revenge on them
James Miller
I see them every morning at my train station, kind of curious how many flyers the hand out per day and how many people walk up to them with a genuine interest.
Henry Bailey
Or a leftist who dislikes their anti gay, pro marriage, anti feminist, pro family, pro traditional values opinions
Sebastian Myers
He's doing a pretty good job so far it seems. If you want something done right, as they say. The most possible motive seems to indeed revenge, insurance, or someone coveting their land and lowering its value.
Andrew Bennett
Didnt Germany ban Scientology as a profit seeking corporation, masquerading as a religion? Is there no such sentiment toward JWs in the vaterland? Or do the witnesses seemingly lack the profit motive?
Isaac Carter
>(((Who))) You know who, we all know who.
Gavin Peterson
Dude, Jahovah's Witnesses aren't like that. They're a cooky cult with weird intentions and rules, they're non-political. They only care about their special 144,000 and their creepy cult rules like abandoning or shunning family that aren't cultists themselves. Only thing that's relevant would be anti-gay. JW literally tell you NOT TO HAVE KIDS They don't care about family
Colton Green
People on bikes are almost certainly Mormons, not JWs. From what I understand, JWs mostly use cars, and will actually have motor pool funds in poorer countries to pay for the use of cars.
Jackson Edwards
Maybe they should just let everyone join - Gays, degenerates, Muslims, thots. ... just like other churches. Have you seen the Pope and other churches lately?
If you dont have standards you dont have a belief system, you're just a pawn.
They are taught to have the husband as head of family, the wife to stay home and not work but look after kids, they dont want kids to go to childcare, they advise teens not to go to University indoctrination. They care about family more than any other group.
Total nonsense that they tell them not to have kids. Please cite something for that one.
Easton Kelly
JWIDF?
Kevin Morales
>Jehovahs Witnesses >Heaven
"Fuck off we're full" - Their god
Jeremiah Gutierrez
They aren't a real religion here, still not completely banned. But it seems like they are being observed by our Gestapo.
Luis Torres
You asked the question. What? Why? JWs believe that millions will live on Earth forever. 144000 will rule in heaven
Jordan Butler
I knew a boy who was one before his family banned me from talking to him because i wasn't in their cult. They discourage having children until god returns... they've been doing it for decades You're also banned from participating in national holidays or customs jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/marriage-child-bearing.php
I'm not advocating degeneracy you faggot, you're being ridiculously defensive. THEY'RE A CULT youtube.com/watch?v=NV1GZRICUms Listen to the ex member
Brayden Morris
>Jehovah’s Witness center has been destroyed How is that even possible? the world ended in 1874 and 1914 and 1925 and 1954 and 1970 and 1975 and...
Ryan Diaz
In organized religion, your always a pawn.
John Ross
>I knew a boy ... Anecdotal
>Banned Jehovah's Witnesses is a voluntary organisation. Its like saying your banned from practicing Jewish holidays.
Go to the source, not some jilted ex member who has nothing good in his life: jw.org/en/
When did I say your advocate degeneracy?
>t. Jehovahs Witness ... sorry mate
Oliver Cox
Everyone belongs to something.
Nolan Walker
Exactly, they're still predicting it to this day. Still showing up at my fucking door telling me armageddon is upon us, and that only jahovah can save me. "HERES A PAMPHLET WITH 50 WATCHTOWER VERSES RELATING EXTREMELY VAGUELY TO MODERN SOCIETY"
Mason Morris
Whats the best part about being a JW? And how do you feel about Mormonism?
Lincoln Miller
user was right. When I was little my parents didnt want me hanging out with kids that weren't in the cult. Stop pretending to be Steven crowder with you "anecdotal" shit
Asher Gray
You voluntarily join cults you faggot, that's how they work.
Are you that retarded?
You get harassed, shunned, "disfellowshipped" if you want to leave or break prevailing dogma. Families disowning their kids for not wanting to be in the cult.
Ohhh you're a cult member, no wonder you were so defensive.
What did you think of the ex-member who's mother refuses to talk to him ever again, and secretly takes his daughter to get indoctrinated when he doesn't know? youtube.com/watch?v=WjxQqvMbYao
Zachary Hall
Real friends (brothers really)- everyone has the same belief system, not lying or taking advantage of one another. Also good that the girls you meet in the congregation are serious about relationships.
Hope for the future. Life on Earth forever, not in heaven as a Spirit. Hell doesn't exit.
However the main thing tho is filling the God shaped hole that all men have ... Matt 5 “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need,+ since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them..
Ethan Wilson
Don't mind Mormons. I cant say much for their beliefs, but we can relate to them and I respect that they take time to preach to people.
Wyatt Hall
You think I am watching your videos? Com'on man, you know better.
Christian Campbell
>earthly paradise, not in spirit So in that sense youre like Jews, would you agree?
Luis Torres
We believe that Gods original purpose was a paradise on Earth; that where he put Adam and Eve. Once they sinned the paradise was lost. This is what is taught in the Old testament which the Jews follow, I believe. Job 14:13-15
The immortal soul was a teaching brought into the church hundreds of years after Jesus death.
Owen Cruz
You're right, wouldn't want to be exposed to people not brainwashed anymore. That might make your little voice in your head question your stupid cult indoctrination.
You just ignored my points about families being destroyed and separated happening in your lovely "religion." It's called de-fooing, it's a sign of cult behavior. Scientologists do it too. Jahovah's Witnesses meet almost EVERY SINGLE METRIC for a cult. They're only missing 1, the unquestioned charismatic leader, but you don't need one, scientologist's leader is long dead, they're still cultish as ever.
Thank god you're probably never having kids, would hate to see you disown them someday. Over a stupid cult made in like 1918.
Now go do your required "pioneering," watchtower cuck.
I was disfellowshipped. Still am. No shunning or harassment was involved. I was not disowned.
What I think about the video is that I wouldn't want to be around such person either. It is like wanting to be around a rabid anti-theist that hates you for everything you are and makes sure to let you know it at every opportunity. There is no reason to bring that grief in my life.
Wrt the mother, she is in the wrong too. Talking to her elders would be the best approach.
Tyler Hall
hello brother! good to see someone else here trying to teach these people.
Kevin Phillips
Ha ha ... hey bro. yeah I met another witness on here once (obviously rare). I jokingly asked him if he counts the hours. He took it serious and said it was a matter of conscience lol
Liam Roberts
With all due respect as an ex-brother, you are wrong about that. The idea of the immortal soul is Babylon and was part of the Jewish mysticism.
There was very,much a lively discussion in early Christian writings defending the idea that the soul is mortal, which implies indirectly that there were people defending otherwise. In the same way that there was a lively discussion regarding whether or not Christians needed to follow the Mosaic Law.
When you believe that it was "introduced" was when, in fact, this discussion was lost.
Samuel Lopez
This but abortion clinics.
Nicholas James
Honest question, why are you here? On Jow Forums, I mean. Surely this place is second only to porn in terms of sites that would be seen as immoral to a Witness?
I wanted to learn the faith to please my now-ex, and I always felt that my visiting here was holding me back.
Xavier Green
>We believe that Gods original purpose was a paradise on Earth; that where he put Adam and Eve. Once they sinned the paradise was lost. And God somehow failed to foresee this and was thwarted? Nigga you gay.
