30+

>If you don't like geek culture now
I think you misunderstood that post, like that user I'm *envious* of those people at that con (well Comic Con 2014 for me) cos hiding my power level resulted in nothing.

How'd you get an IT job?

coconut oil or the goo you squeeze out of an aloe plant

Bump

Where do I meet people? I don't have any interests that involve other people, no friends, and no family I socialize people. I don't drink, do drugs, or like any bands.

I feel like I'm destined to be isolated.

> tfw 29 and I finally don't feel way too old to be on this site... at least on this thread
WOOHOO thanks guys

>graduate from an ivy league school, but with a poor gpa
>classmates and friends are at well paying jobs, buying houses, getting married, having children
>meanwhile i'm stuck in a minimum wage job, can barely afford rent in a fucking basement
>avoid hanging out with former friends as i can't relate to them and whenever they ask how i'm doing it's the same depressing conversation
How to deal with the soulcrushing feel that you're behind in life and will never catch up? Should I start making friends in my socioeconomic bracket? I feel so bitter towards everything.

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for the ppl feeling alone and alike, you gotta be asking question of your coworkers and any new ppl get to know, basicly you have to risk and make the first steps, its more difficult now because older ppl are more closed off and also already have friends but we live in an age when so many ppl are lonely you will get atleast buddies to drink a beer with

this is great, you deserve what you got, you made a half assed attempt to be able to look down on ppl, suffer well

>you made a half assed attempt to be able to look down on ppl
Cos he went to an ivy league school?

>avoid hanging out with former friends as i can't relate to them and whenever they ask how i'm doing it's the same depressing conversation
I know this feeling well, I follow their instagrams to be extra depressed. Now I don't even have a job.

>30 is the bar for "older"
>30 means I know substantially more than a

Did you do internships

That's rough.

I did unpaid summer ones at small companies. They didn't have any full time jobs after that I guess because they're so small.

25 marks the age where people stop giving you the benefit of the doubt and slowly start to tally what you've accomplished so far.

Bump.

>basically one person that checks every now and again
That's a great companion you got there, you better be damn grateful you still have these kind of people around you.

I'm pretty sure, he's really doing it so that he doesn't have a guilty conscience when I hang myself or something. I mean, literally every month or two, it's just a text message.

>I'm pretty sure, he's really doing it so that he doesn't have a guilty conscience
Have you ever tried hanging out with him? You shouldn't take people's kindness like they are using it to their advantage, kind people still exists. Are you schizoid?

>Have you ever tried hanging out with him?
On occasion, but a) he runs in different social circles b) after being let go from work there really isn't much talk about besides moaning.

we've had a long-distance relationship for most of the 3 years we've been together, and we agreed to date other people on the side, and now things have gotten really serious between her and this other girl out where she lives. they just made plans to move in together and she basically doesn't have room for me in her life anymore. I know the signs were really obvious and this was probably inevitable, but that doesn't make it hurt any less. I guess part of me was hoping in vain that she'd move back here when she was done with school and start a life with me.

I'm 35 and I've never been good at dating and I honestly just want to settle down soon, and I just don't know what to do anymore :(

>her and this other girl
Gee, more lesbians.

honestly I'd prefer her to leave me for another girl than for a dude

I spent most of my 20s in a monogamous relationship with a bisexual girl who suddenly decided she was straight after almost a decade of dating me and left me for a male friend of hers

so are you just upset because the people who are
'like you' are doing better?

honestly just graduating from an ivy league already puts you leagues ahead of most people

I graduated from a red brick uni but that doesn't matter if you only got a 2.2 and your degree is 7 years old and you have no relevant experience besides stacking shelves or flipping burgers.

In hindsight going to uni really for networking. There are people I know of, who has *passes*, fucking passes (that's 40%), who are working in high positions cos they know people.

Is it even possible to establish a respectable career once you hit 30? I was drunk throughout my 20's and my employment history is nothing to be proud of, I am basically at the same point now as someone who just graduated high school.

Looking less and less likely as the years go by. I think at this point you have to get lucky in starting a business.

Underage... for this thread detected.

he went there and he thought he was done, for the wrong reasons too

How much money should I plan to still have set aside after buying a house? For like any emergencies or surprise house repairs in the near future. The plan would be to get something with a newer roof and AC to hopefully at least put those expenses further into the future. I'll be putting 20-25% down by the way.

well i have a friend who probably isn't going to start being an animator until she is almost 30, she's 26 now and still in uni. her skills are pretty promising though

Next year I am eligible to get my criminal record pardoned, then I think I might take the training course to become a trucker.

Try the trades, just had a 50+ year old recently divorced mother of 5 go through the whole 4 year apprenticeship and now she makes 80k+ a year.

What's your role in this?

Is there any point in me continuing video-courses in Lynda for programming and such? Or is it a futile attempt at trying to get skills for a better job?

I need to just force myself to date someone. Anyone. I used to be really, really fat and that limited my dating options to the grossest of fat women. Now that I look normal, except skin, I should be able to get a gf. It's just every time there's a chance of getting close to someone, I find some flaw that makes me want to cut contact when really it's just an excuse for comfortable inactivity.

Why not try it? Rent out your house, so if you don't like it you can go back. I have done this several times in my life. Depending on where you are moving from/to it could be the best decision of your life

So how much leeway was she given and is she related to the boss? Apprenticeship is like boot camp, it is designed to break young men and weed out the betas. If your story is true then I think someone was cutting this woman a lot of slack.

>Also have that exact same bitterness that → has about geek "culture"

That's just imaginary nostalgia for times that didn't exist. Geek culture was ALWAYS based on commercialism because the hobbies are commercial. There's no point in getting upset that they sell video games at E3 or they sell autographs and toys at comic-con. It's always been like that. it's like going to a music show and getting mad that the bands are selling t-shirts and CDs.

Polysporin does a moisturizer cream that worked wonders for me. I had dry and red skin all over and went to go see a doctor and they were just like "just moisturise you retard you're getting older lol"

What are your interests then?

>I am basically at the same point now as someone who just graduated high school.

So do what one would do after high school, you took a break with life and just keep moving forward.

Go to university or becoming a fucking plumber or whatever you'd think you would enjoy. I'm 32 years old and studying audio engineering.

>Geek culture was ALWAYS based on commercialism because the hobbies are commercial.

You're misreading the post.

>All these groups of friends in good/bad cosplay, pastel-haired qts, even a couple of furry qts (so many more furries than I was expecting), some dude wearing a tentacle rape t-shirt with "move to japan and fuck everything" and people telling him it's a cool shirt, regular people buying body pillows and hentai comics un/ironically, etc. I even saw a couple of chavs sneak in through the back exit to get in without paying, something I would never would've thought seen happen.

Like me that OP of that post is *envious* of the people there, growing up I hid my powerlevel to try and fit in with regular people and in the end it all counted for naught since it became the norm anyway. I should've sought out other weirdos when I was younger.

In two months, I'll be 25. It shocks me that me being 18 will have been a solid 7 years ago. If freaks me out how much of my head is still a teenager, but every so often my body will remind me that I'm not and that it's all downhill from here. I had that moment where I looked around for the adult in the room and realized that I was supposed to be the adult. My 20's are about to be half-over. This is the second half from here on out. I still want to stay up late and drink Mountain Dew and watch cartoons and play vidya all night. Have I changed at all? When did I grow up?

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This is actually pretty fucking smart.

>You're misreading the post.

well a lot of the thread was people complaining about how cons used to only be about the community, maaaan. Or it could be that I'm thinking about an entirely different thread that was also about cons.

>Like me that OP of that post is *envious* of the people there, growing up I hid my powerlevel to try and fit in with regular people and in the end it all counted for naught since it became the norm anyway. I should've sought out other weirdos when I was younger.

same here actually, except that I was with the wrong crowd of weirdos. Deep down I was an animefag and wanted to get into LARP and tabletop RPGs and all that but instead I forced myself to fit in with the punk rock and metal crowds where I always felt like an outsider and people probably saw me as an outsider as well. I would walk past the Anime Club and whatever and hear all the people in there screaming and laughing and I'd be like "oh wow what a bunch of losers haha" and then ate lunch by myself underneath the stairs

You can't go back in time, you can only move forward and daydreaming about the past is a god damn poison.
You can go and seek other weirdos. Today. I didn't get into anime until I was like 28 and this year is my first anime con. I won't be the youngest guy there but I won't be the oldest one either.

>Or it could be that I'm thinking about an entirely different thread that was also about cons.
Different thread, half the thread was anons lamenting about having missed the chance.

>You can go and seek other weirdos. Today.
>I won't be the youngest guy there but I won't be the oldest one either.
It's not just age; all those anime/tabletop/larp/vidya/etc groups grew up learning social skills and passing the usual adolescent milestones albeit nerd-themed milestones, so I would be meeting other nerds/geeks with social skills. It's me encroaching on their territory.

>I didn't get into anime until I was like 28 and this year is my first anime con.
My passion for anime, vidya, etc has sort of waned now. A lot.

If you are over 30 and love the anime which you watch in your parents' basement I wholeheartedly believe that you should kill yourself and end the suffering of anyone who knows you. You are pathetic, and you have lost.

Help.
>30 years old
>no job, no education (currently in uni), no technical training, experience working in shit jobs only
>busted ass in community college while working
>make it to uni
>everything falls apart immediately
>grades terrible
>half of my time spent at uni so far has been repeating shit I've failed
>racking up debt
>drinking heavily
>got a DUI
>gained 80lbs
>teeth hurting like fuck, can only chew with one side of mouth
>depressed over how much of a loser I am
>at least when I was working I could afford insurance that included dental

I don't know what the fuck to do. The 3 jobs I had considered applying to for good pay (for me) if I dropped out I now no longer qualify for because of my driving record. Same with many of the jobs related to my field of study. I don't have the money to pay the deposit on an apartment with roommates, so I'll probably have to move into a group/recovery home and sleep on a bunk bed and be forced to attend AA meetings while scratching bedbug bites. If I stay in school, I can at least get more student loans to keep living in my current house with my own room, but I'll just get deeper and deeper into debt to graduate with a degree in a field I won't be able to get any entry-level jobs for, and with trash grades.

Any advice on what sort of jobs I can apply to so I can start digging myself out of this hole? I seriously cannot afford more training or education right now. I need to eat, I need a bed in which to sleep.

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thats the point of ivy league universities.

any uni is capable of providing you an education ina given curriculum.

So what now?

Bump.

I wish someone told me this earlier. A lot earlier.

my best friend is 14 years older than me (my brother). i dont think you have to worry about age when it comes to just keeping people company

For someone over 30, is there any point to spend any time at all on women?

I feel like 30+ year old women are either all former sluts, divorcees/single moms, or feminazis. Is this accurate?

i dont really need advice but i wanted to ask you guys something

how do you all feel when you compare yourself to your peers who had unwanted kids?

if you have children isn't that when things become impossibly difficult? anons here may be 25+ but at least most of you i assume are single. being single allows for a shit ton of freedom.

i have a friend who is 23 but has 3 kids already. he might as well be 45 in terms of the amount of freedom he has.

>I feel like 30+ year old women are either all former sluts, divorcees/single moms, or feminazis. Is this accurate?

How can you be 30 years old and still have the mentality of an Jow Forums retard?

BUT after 30 I don't think you have as wide of a choice.

freedom meaning; the ability to switch careers relatively quickly compared to someone with a wife and kids, the ability to focus on your looks so that you can get a good mate, more time to enjoy yourself.

actually ive even seen people WITH kids make significant improvements to their lives, so why not you guys

What do you mean?

Having kids was the best thing that ever happened to me. It's way more fun than it should be. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

>former sluts, divorcees/single moms
These things are ok to be.

>Having kids
Maybe if you're in a good position.

Eh, marriage has almost fell apart a few times in the past six months and I'd be surprised if it lasts the year but being a dad is fucking top tier keks.

oh i see. well....i've yet to decide if i want kids or not. it really depends if i meet the right person

its possible i could have the same thoughts as you one day

All my friends are going on exotic holidays and getting wasted for days at a time, buying the newest games and top-tier guitars and shit and my idea of a perfect time involves going to the swings in the park. I don't envy them at all.

>These things are ok to be.

Why do you think so? I disagree.

I’m not a promiscuous guy. I’ve only had sex within relationships. I wouldn’t want a woman who had tons of recreational sex just because she wanted to feel a dick in her mouth. Also, I don’t want kids and don’t want to be forced into a stepfather role

Everyone has a past, user. She can be a good person in the present whatever happened. And generally if she's even half sensible she'll want the dad to take the father's role. It's not your job and if she expects this of you, she isn't worth the trouble.

I know this example I’m going to give is a bit extreme. but would you date a girl who used to get gang banged by multiple men? And made money through bukakke with a group of 60+ year old men regularlly? you’d forgive that past?

I don’t want to just be “another dick”. I think that sex with many people can warp your intimacy toward people. That you won’t get the full reward of a relationship if you think sex is just such a casual thing everyday thing you used to do with everyone.

About the stepfather thing, even still there is almost no way she wouldn’t expect me to take some sort of responsibility. Whether it’s taking the kids to their baseball practice or picking them up from school.

>a bit extreme

Really? You're gonna derail this thread to talk about your problem with non-virgin women? There's like other threads on Jow Forums where they're not even trying to hide the fact that they're an Jow Forums thread on Jow Forums.

I’m just saying. It’s a past right? Yeah that example is extreme. But it’s still her past. Maybe she’s different now as you had said. But could you still accept that?

>I’m just saying.
Would you fuck your mother if it was the only way to save her?

Cos that's the level of question you're asking.

>your problem with non-virgin women?

When did I ever say this?

That is a bit extreme. But for the right person, yeah, I'd let that go.

Also, she may ask you to help out but that's not the same as taking responsibility. It's just another chore. You're not there as a father and she should not expect you to be.

Well, that is really extremely. I was just trying to give an ultra slutty example to see if it was still acceptable to you. That’s all.

Ok I hear you. But for me it’s against my values.

About kids, I don’t think that’s for me. I dislike kids and don’t want to babysit. Whores and single moms aren’t for me

Is everything just black and white for you?

no, there are grey areas.

Fair enough. You could be missing out on a real diamond but such is life.

But back to what I was asking. Is that really all that’s left after 30?

Former/current whores, single moms, and (hardcore) feminists?

>I feel like 30+ year old women are either all former sluts, divorcees/single moms, or feminazis. Is this accurate?

if you have a problem with this, get fucking swole and date 25-29 year old girls.

>In two months, I'll be 25.
This is the 30+, not even the 25+ thread.

Like if you get to this position (not including circumstance out of your hands), in this era, then it's ALL your fucking fault. At least early millennials have the bullshit excuse of not getting the internet till they were in their teens but you late millennials have always had the internet and all it's advantages.

with the right girl, you'll get over it. Awesome girls have awesome kids. Sure, yes, most women are fucking basic, and have basic fucking kids.

I'm the same way, I stay away from most divorced women with kids. But every now and then you'll meet one with rad kids.

>But every now and then you'll meet one with rad kids.

What’s so cool about them?

I don't know, sorry. I haven't been dating for almost a decade.

I'm 35, single, with a good job and good pay.

I'm watching all the women I went to college and high school with get married and have kids. Kids with shittier men that make less than half of what I make, but I won't get into that.

Its depressing how hard it is to keep in contact with them after they have the first kid. A male friend in cali only wants to text. A female friend, well I only get one sentence replies out of her now. She refuses to have a conversation via text or messenger. Like my sister's husband died, one sentence reply. I follow up, not reply.

I suspicious their church has preached some shit on emotional cheating. Which just infuriates me more, that fucking talking about my sister, and her friend's husband's death is some how taking away from her husband's happy fun fun time.

Its a retarded cycle. These people get married, cut all their friends off and make their spouse their complete emotional support. Then they get burnt out and like 30, 40 % of them get divorced.

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>What’s so cool about them?

One has a son that likes to build robots and is learning to program. Another has a daughter that wants to get into special effects makeup and makes monster masks.

That’s how it always is. Especially for people of the opposite sex. They cut contact.

>Especially for people of the opposite sex. They cut contact.

its stupid. If I call, we'll talk for an hour.

I don't get it. Like, the call is less appropriate than the text. A text about a recent death is nothing. i have no business calling married woman and talking for hours. I'm not going to do that because I respect myself. Even if we are friends.

So, I get like one good conversation per month. One call per month. Anything more and I feel like I'm shitting on their relationship.

But a fucking text on messenger? About death? Answer your text, bitch.

It’s just how it is. People get so involved in their relationships they stop talking to others.

2 of my female friends are like this. They’ll text me all the time when they are single, but the moment they get a boyfriend I won’t hear from them until it’s over (longest was 2 years).

My male friends do this but to a lesser extent. They just become slow as fuck at replying to texts and rarely are able to hang out

yeah, that seems to be how it is.

I was taking it pretty personal until recently. Like, I was wondering if there was something wrong with me, like was I driving these people away.

But about three weeks ago I was on a business trip and asked a friend out there if he wanted to eat together for lunch. We ended up talking for 2 hours. He went over his lunch break by a hour. He could have gotten in trouble but he was that into it.

And last weekend I talked to another friend in seatle for a hour.

So maybe its not me.

Really, I've thought about just making a list of contacts and rotating the numbers. Call someone different every day. I think, at least for the men, it would be healthy. Because they all had work and marriage and kid stuff to talk about. Stuff they wanted to get out. It could be a good way to be a friend and provide them support.

Just my thoughts though.

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It’s probably not you desu.

I guess you get lonley?

At 30 most people's social lives center around work and work events anyway.
People have families. They're confined to the prison that is their home responsibilities