Stop whining about women and fix yourselves

I don't remember enough about it to argue about it. I'll be going to the gym either way.

For what its worth a supermajority of the guys I know (and me on the rare occasion) have almost always been the other guy. That shits a pretty huge blackpill when you find out time after time.

>women will basically lose sexual interest in their husbands
Did the findings tell you anything about those husbands and what they were like? Women have a pretty predictable psychology. Why do some women obsess over their husbands, while others develop contempt and don't respect their husbands? What makes the difference? What is female psychology in this matter?

For example, other studies tell us that women become neurologically addicted to men that inseminate them. The more times you put your seed in a woman, the more bonded to you she is. The more times she orgasms with you, the more addicted she is to you. Being "clingy" is natural for women to feel toward their mates. You have to understand how to push these buttons in women, and understand how they instinctively try to push your buttons, like when they try to shit test you. You have to learn how to project power and keep your own emotions in check. When to use emotions and when to show none.

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How much can you bench?

If you ware the man your wife would want to cheat on a beta with, would there be a different outcome? Men don't know how to be that kind of man anymore, because our fathers are being taken away through divorce and social shame. Men are being feminized by the loss of masculinity and male teachers. Men are the linchpin of the social order, we have the power and control. So it starts with learning to control yourself.

/SIG/ boys become men.

No because women are always looking to trade up and will do so at the first given opportunity. It doesn't even matter if that trade up is a trade up only in the context of that moment I.e.
>this guy may be less attractive/a loser/broke but I'm drunk and upset at my S/O ATM and this guy is funny/taller/available etc etc
Tbh fuck women

My brother is like that, and he has a girlfriend too. I support it though, because his girlfriend is a mutt.
No. I assume they were average men. At this point I just want to find a woman who isn't a complete degenerate and use her to perpetuate my genetics without any expectation that the relationship won't be a complete shitshow and possibly ruin my life, because I don't count on being able to become some kind of sexual ubermensch.
I just bought the gym membership online yesterday, and I'm dealing with a relative dying as well as a short staff at work and people calling in sick on my off days, so I haven't gone yet. I'm out of shape though, I can tell you that.

>women are always looking to trade up
Some are, definitely. All instincts are balanced against other instincts. So the question to ask is what short circuits hypergamy instincts? Its a fact that women act like slaves to some men, but shit on other men. Why do they treat some men differently?

Do not be quick to believe a blackpill. Losers always want company for their misery and failure. Be careful of the blackpill preachers that want you to believe you have to be alone like they are. People often want others to fail alongside them. Don't fall too easily for that kind of "just give up" preaching. Women aren't impossible for you to control. They actually evolved to be controlled by men. Don't forget that objective fact.

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You can't control a child when you're not in the room. What you're suggesting is feasible only in the environment that those instincts developed in. I can't be within walking distance of a girl all day except when I'm hunting. We won't steadily be in close proximity to everyone in the tribe including other potential trysts so that she has to worry about one of them slipping. There are too many opportunities and too few risks. I won't love a women until neurology figures out how to induce long term monogamous pair bonding in the brain stronger than libido.

work on myself? there's nothing to work on. i want a traditional virgin 10/10 ...do those fuckin exist anymore? no you dumb fuck. there's only ONE way to find one. befriend a cute12 year old from a great family and wait until she's 18, ensuring she remains pure the whole time

Women aren't the problem, you dunce. It's a state that's willing to do their bidding on a whim. Nobody is afraid of or respects women for their power. Women are stupid, weak children.

There's no fixing one's self within a system that is designed to fuck you up. Men aren't allowed to be masculine.

You're simply a retard who doesn't understand anything if you don't understand this.

>he lets dying family and other personal issues get in the way of a gym sesh
not gonna make it bro

Gym is where you go to give your brain a breather, where you forget about personal problems for 1-2Hrs and work on improving your bodily health and physique. Nothing should get in the way of that with the exception of doctors orders or an injury. Stop finding excuses and go do a set right fucking now.

I'm convinced white women don't even like white men

>You can't control a child when you're not in the room.
That's one thing that extremely easy to do. We do this every day, 355 days a year.
>Krampus will eat you if you are naughty!
>O-oh no! I do not want to be eaten by scary Krampus!
All of society is ordered by consequences people fear. Especially women. You need to re-wire your own brain to think like a person who deals out consequences for bad behavior.

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Just be a virgin and marry a virgin. Everything will fall into place.

part of regaining that control involves understanding women in the first place, hence, we should keep whining about women
sage

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>The more times you put your seed in a woman, the more bonded to you she is. The more times she orgasms with you, the more addicted she is to you.
It's almost as if you treat your partner better, they'll have sex with you more often or something, and be more interested in a long-term relationship.

>he actually believes children behave
The only time they behave if you're not in the room is if they believe you either could be soon, or could know what goes on in the room. Women aren't so naive as to attribute that kind of relative omniscience to their S/O. They're grown children, and excel at lying to others and themselves.

Where's the faithful paki who will tell us to just beat her? Don't take to long bro! Anons are depending on you!

This is why when my wife starts acting crazy she tells me to fuck it out of her. A good dicking and she’s back to normal.

Quite frankly the greatest grey-pill I can depart on this thread is the following:

>The women you get are exactly the ones you deserve.
Its hard to swallow but frankly true, once you stop expecting the world to be like a porno that caters to your whims, and stop expecting that women should flock to you just because you filled X vapid requirement, you become liberated to take controll over your life and accept that you are responsible for your own successes/failures.

Looks alone with no personality of your own will get you vapid self-absorbed thots.
Personality but no life-struggle/good body health gets you weak women who praise failures, out of pity rather than respect.
All three gets you women

Also, women are not entirely hormone-driven bots just like men aren't chem-controlled rape-machines (like feminists would have women believe). Look on an individual-by-individual basis instead of thinking in terms of collectives and the hunt will become much easier than looking for a diamond in the rough. And once you find a suitable partner, invest in them fully and commit, otherwise, you will forever float in the endless sea like any waste-of-space douche or 5-dollar whore.

How long have you two been married?
How often should one bang their wife?

unfortunately decent men vastly outnumber decent women

Get fit. Get smart. Don't marry a whore that's taken ten dicks. That's easy enough.

The hardest part is learning how to socialize but that'll require you to find and lose friends, girlfriends, read books about it, etc. Stuff everyone has to go through.

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don't marry a girl who's even taken ONE dick.

>Don't marry a whore that's taken ten dicks
>That's easy enough
lol

any girl over 20 nowadays has fucked tons of dudes.

>he actually believes children behave
My children behave because they know that when they don't behave, they feel pain and terror. Over time, their good behavior teaches them that it is good to behave in its own right. Of course they are never free from temptation, but consistency over time produces results. That's true in all areas of life, its common sense. If you have children that don't respond to ANY kind of behavior modification, then you either have a retarded or psychopathic child. The same is true of a woman, but obvious the majority of women respond to behavior modification. They are HIGHLY susceptible to it, as evidenced by all modern advertising, based on research it female psychology. Women are the ultimate conformists. They re extremely sensitive to authority.

Thus, your goal is to master being an authority. If you still doubt me, ask yourself this: why do women stay with men who beat them? Its impossible to get women to leave abusive men. Why do women get turned on by "rough sex", when it obviously simulates rape? Why do women orgasm more often during rape, and ovulate more often during rape?
>because brutality is a physical signal that a male is dominant and good to breed with
I'm not saying you should beat a woman, or rape her. I'm saying that all you need to do is make her FEEL like you will, and you are capable of doing so. This excites her as much as it makes her bond with you and conform to you. This is also why women change their belief systems between boyfriends, why they'll be bluepilled with one guy then redpilled with another. This is their survival mechanism controlling their behavior, down to what they think is reality.

If you are determined to be a loser and be alone, you will always find an excuse to remain blackpilled. You will completely deny the possibility that you can be in control of women. You will fight to drag others down to your level, to feel better about your own failure. That's fine, lurkers can see that.

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About one third to one fourth of girls or probably less are virgins at marriage. It's possible but do you want to reproduce, find love, or be realistic? Being a purist and asking to inspect hymens is not smart or pragmatic when your people are facing extinction and genocide. I know I'm talking to Jow Forums basement-dwelling people who actually have autism, but I'm also an ugly, awkward, autistic motherfucker who's not even six feet and I make it in the social and employment world.

Yes, it's 100% possible for you to find a virgin qt if you try hard enough, it might be hard in today's world, but you can. And you always have the option of settling with someone who's given up the coochie a few times before. But you have to try, and it seems like none of you want to try at all.

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You can condition your family and children via praising good behavior or making bad behavior hard enough. Either way works. But you also have to be normal and healthy enough to make it work. Treating your family like a science experiment is the best way to wind up with kids that hate you and rebel and turn into left-wing degenerates.

I would honestly rather just stay single than settle

If she's had a single dick? Then you're honestly retarded. You're aware that the only human society and broad ethnic group capable of guaranteeing our eternal survival is under threat and you'll dodge reproducing because your potential partner made some mistakes in her past? Alright, have it your way.

Personally, I have a low upper limit too. Virgin is preferred. But I'm realistic. I know for a fact that I'm the only sibling in my family to marry not a virgin. I also know that I have a duty as someone with a decent IQ to put out non-retarded niggers. Like I said, your call.

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We’ve been married less than a year so still newly weds. But we are also both pushing 40 so we’ll beyond games and childish shit.

As often as possible. Most woman aren’t really in the mood due to the way they are designed sexually. You need to be the dominant one and take it. Put them in the mood and make it fun. Plus it’s a huge stress reliever for both involved. If I wasn’t so busy with business and travel and my wife wasn’t so busy with her law firm and expansion project we would be having sex a hell of a lot more.

speak for yourself, i'm a fit, handsome, charismatic catch. girls flock to me bro. i just reject them 24/7 because i'm a deeply spiritual catholic. i've "dated" girls who give up pussy, it's just not worth it. i'm not a virgin, but it's a terrible mistake i made. i need to start over. i need a pure marriage, it's what i've always wanted since i was a little little kid.

If I accept this it will just make me even more blackpilled.

Congratulations.
Why did you marry a woman who won't be able to have kids within a few years or maybe even not be able to have kids now?
Also do you find it attractive that she is a professional?
Honest questions. I just find it so unattractive when a woman has wordly ambition. I've known a few young women who were really smart but just wanted to raise babies and pet rabbits and it was a massive turn on for me.

>Stop whining about women
>improve yourself

This is seriously becoming a meme. Modern women are fucking GARBAGE dude, anyone who acts like men need to put in a bunch of work to win these women like they are some prize is delusional.

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wake up lmao. "dude just improve yourself" That is the most annoying thing ever..... seriously.

You sound like the type of guy that can make it happen, then. Better than me. I'm fit and decent height but not quite where you are. Good luck. I know you can do it.

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I've doubled my income in the past year because of this site and am on the track to make even more and have a nice career. I still don't expect to find the right grill tho. Here's to hoping I can prove that wrong.

truth. people like me don't have anything to work on. girls already love me. they're just not worth it, at all. i've yet to meet one who just wants a good husband to love her and have 6 kids with. and that is saving herself for that man. THAT is who i want raising my family

>deeply spiritual catholic

wew lad.

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i can do it, i just haven't found a 10/10 virgin. i don't know if i'll even come across that

good vid

Asking what will fix women isn't whining, it's asking big questions about things bigger than yourself and taking a constructive proactive approach to it.

Before you wonder how to fix something, you have to consider whate broke women. And it's obvious that it is the mix of feminism and other (((degeneracy))).

Because no matter how well you might raise your daughter, she lives in a society bombarded with feminist messages from young age, from media, from school.

And at the very least she must learn the language of degenerates, because that is the current mainstream culture.

So the root is feminism and that root is judaism. So how do you fix women? By reversing the mind pollution.

You never know when your gonna meet your soul mate. I just happened to meet her much later in life. Even though she is a professional she is extremely traditional, loves family and children and takes care of me without me asking. We make very good money but she is very frugal in her spending. She still goes to the dollar store and we make over 300k a year. Her Dr. Gave her the all clear for babies. We are hoping to be pregnant in the first half of next year. We are lucky that we have a ton of family support and we are sure we can both work from home and share raising the child. I have dated a lot of those cheerleader type that want everything that are pretty useless and have zero conversation skills outside of talking about Ariana Grande, and Kyle Jenner. You sound like you don’t want a partner in life but a husky of a human that’s brain has stopped developing.

This right here.
Fuck this misleading, delusional thread.

>What is FEMINISM for 1000?
Women are more affected by social thought than men, this has worked to their and men's beniefit socially and were it not for this propensity societies would not have formed, but due to this also just a couple of strategically placed dikes and angry cat-ladies and you got a recipie for trouble. Thank the jews for subverting our women, and if not the jews than the feminist trash that encourage degeneracy among the finer sex.

They like the white badboys, but not regular white dudes.

>Treating your family like a science experiment
I treat rattle snakes like a "science experiment" to by not letting them bite me and inject me with necrotic venom. When you go to the doctor, he treats you like a "science experiment" by understanding the science of what's happening to you. He also saves your life and heals you. I suppose life sounds like a science experiment when you know enough science to explain what happening around you.

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Well I don't want to talk about ariana grande and the jenner bitch but ya women are definitely a tag along companion to me rather than an equal partner.
You sort of worded that like its a bad thing... that was weird of you to do that.
My mom is completely my Dads sidekick.
She doesn't know shit about the world, news or anything.
She just gardens and stays at home on their 40 acres feeding the horses and shit.
That was really weird to me how you worded that sentence like women are not meant to be a tag along to the man. Even old texts like the bible understood this dynamic with Adam and Eve.
He was the main character, was lonely and God created a companion for him.
Good luck though man, I hope you two get preggers.

Thank you, o wise boomer. Truly the key to success you're "departing" on us there.

He's a cuck, his newlywed 40 year old babydick is flooding his braincell with fresh oxytocin at the moment, and in the meantime his cuntwife is feeding him gestalt that he perceives as his own. You might as well be reasoning with a rock.

So do the opposite of what jews want. In other words...have her believe in the lirf Jesus Christ.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^an stunningly insightful post.

Failure always wants company. The more people are incels because you blackpill them, the happier it makes you.

No, volcels.
I think the young dudes should play the game and find out exactly how it goes.
Some babydicks won't come to the correct conclusions though, I accept that.

To be honest if she didn’t have her shit together and make at least half of what I made I wouldn’t have dated her in the first place. I dated those sexy broke college girls that wanted to be taken care of. It felt more like a business arraignment than an actual relationship. Just having a tag along wife sounds depressing. I want a woman to challenges me and pushes me to want to be my best. Plus it didn’t hurt that she’s built like a brick shithouse and barely looks a day over 26, has a credit score over 800, zero debt, paid her way through college, and owns a house. I would just get real bored with the type of relationship and woman you want. To each his own. I hope you find a woman like that and she makes you happy.

Damn dude how badly did you get fucked over. I’ve been through the shit already divorced already and still through that found an amazing woman. You can talk shit and hate. Good luck with whatever you end up with you would like a fucking hell of a catch...

Lol

Actually I never did get fucked over, I was loved. I'm solitary, many of us are. I don't like having an """"equal"""" like your cunty terminatrix there polluting my inner peace and shitting up my mind, and I don't like having to constantly keep childlike personality-disordered little whores in line either. Both are a chore. Women are a chore. We weren't meant to exist in these egalitarian lifestyles within egalitarian society, and as a result it will always be unsatisfactory.

I just know what I want and what I don't. I look down on dudes that play soulmates with women.

>give women the vote
>crash the western world with no survivors in a century

unless you get 1 women and 50% of men to vote to disenfranchise women or tie voting to property ownership, marriage, or having children, equally impossible in the age of (((everyone alive (and dead if you vote democrat) needs their voice heard))), then we're not walking back from the edge of civilization death.

There has to be a time of troubles; either an external threat or internal collapse.

>I just know what I want and what I don't. I look down on dudes that play soulmates with women.
That's a lot of words for just telling us you're a lonely faggot, join the club.

Russian culture was fucked looooooong before the Americans were even a blip on the radar. It's just oh so convenient for Putin and his 3rd world lackeys to blame everything on the Great Satan.

based american poster 4

I can tell from your writing style that you’re the male equivalent of the women you criticise. Too ignorant to recognise your own foibles. You’re the type of guy who’d be the first to advocate racemixing with Chinese women because you can’t attract a decent quality white woman. When you criticise white women, you’re effectively admitting that you’re a trash tier white man who refuses to take responsibility for the behaviour of his women.

The majority of people in this thread are flat out wrong. Women aren't the problem. The problem is the state. Its laws and the state that allow women to run amok. One thing most people here seem to get correct is that women are children. This is 200% true. So why in the fuck are we allowing children to vote? Why are we allowing them to dictate laws? Why are we allowing them any kind of authority when all they do is pass responsibility and blame on to everyone but themselves?

Think about it. Would you let an actual child run a business or take part in politics? No? Then why the fuck are we allowing women to do the same?

How the fuck are men supposed to take responsibility for their women when the courts, the law, and the state don't let him? On what magical planet do you live where men with guns won't come and break down your door at the behest of a woman on the mere ACCUSATION without any evidence of any wrong doing against her?

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>you don't need to improve yourself
Your genes don't need to be passed on. Nature is full of more failures that don't reproduce than successes that do. It's funny that you try to drag others with you to the same fate. Its like lemmings wanting company while they run off a cliff. I guess no one wants to go extinct alone.

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don’t worry op, you are not alone in thinking that. I’m working on me, it’s all I can do. Tfw when women come to me now. Tfw I can and do tell them no. Free your mind, men. And for the love of god (truly a good and accurate use of that phrase) Stop thinking with your dick, it’s destroying society.

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>coke and donuts
Yeah, no thanks, I'll stick to sambuca and jagerbombs

user, if you are younger than 30 years old and you are giving this advice you should stop now. Logos is a masculine virtue, and a virtuous man has always throughout history been respected for protecting the wimminfolk and for not being a degenerate scum. What morals do you want to live by , user?
The way I figure it is this: really you should see the woman as the daughter of her father, and you should seek first and foremost to get in good with her father, and befriend him so that he knows that you are indeed a virtuous man that he would be proud to call his son.
If her father would not approve of what you are doing, you should probably not be doing it.
Virtue is hard to cultivate and easy to destroy. It takes true character. The word virtue is literally derived from the word “man” — vir + its. The logos embodies all that is Masculine virtue , and it is extremely difficult to cultivate it within yourself. But it is highly rewarding and worth every bit of the effort.
user, will (you) be the man the world and your community want and need you to be?
>it starts with you.

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Ok now fix the court system

More importantly, where can you find decent women? Aside from church.

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This is Jordan Peterson-tier retardation. You are so stupid you can't even comprehend that someone can use words and do actions at the same time. This is 50 IQ retardation.

This is like if I said my neighbor killed his wife, and you go ''well, why the fuck didn't you report it to the police? why didn't you do anything????'' But I did.
What the fuck is your problem?

Trough friends. The vast majority of married couples met their partner trough their friends.
Make friends first, make sure they are good people and you will eventually meet their friends and their family. If you associate with good people you will eventually meet decent women.

This is such bullshit. Even if you are "alpha" if the cunt decides one day that she is "unhappy" she can divorce you take half your stuff abduct your kids and if you resist you will go to jail.

You pathetic white knights are telling people that you need to be a superhuman just to get a wife who is not a roastie

leaf might be onto something here

This. Some girls pretty much sit at home all day because they are shy, so you wont get to know them unless you get into her social circle by proxy.

Can't assert dominance when that mode of action has been completely usurped by the state. Gotta deal with that first.

Neither is going to happen, women and men will remain broken until something very drastic happens. Women will never allow their power to be taken away voluntarily and it's instinctual for far too many men to always work against men who work (or see to work) against women.Gender dynamics in civilized countries are permanently fucked.

>I'm honestly a beta/omega male but I bought a gym membership yesterday. I'm pretty blackpilled on the idea of an attractive woman staying faithful for more than three years though.
Don't aim for city girls.
Aim for a woman that wants family, make lots of babies.
Drop the redpills about single women and sign a prenup (we have loads of articles).

Women know that is the fate that awaits and it scares the shit out of them.
Redpilling your wife will make her understand the consequence of sleeping around.

They hate you because you're right

>volcels

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The absolute difference between rural and metro america.

stop whining about what people whine about and get your fucking non political pussy pro larping shill ass back to /shitblue on reddit, fucking homosexual. go play S [E] G A

>Men should take responsibility for everything
What else is new?

The new thing is that a shitload of white"men" now refuse to take responsibility for everything, they take responsibility for nothing.

Jow Forums is really symptomatic of this, it's always the ebil white women, the kikes, the niggers, the illuminatis, the spics etc etc

The biggest redpill is to accept the fact that the world was in our hand and that we're the only ones responsibles if we lost it. We choosed to drop our sword. I deeply believe that we can take it back tho.