Hey /pol, in all seriousness, would decentralized communism work ?
I'm not talking about a big government welfare state or an authoritarian north korean kind of regime, but about small decentralized communes where a few hundreds of people can chose to do certain tasks and in return get to live in the community with no money involved.
I'm a libertarian and a staunch free market advocate because i believe every individual should be free to exchange voluntarily with every other individual. Is it a practical view ? Idk. But i'm open to hear your thoughts on the matter.
A money will develop. This is an inevitability of economies. Money solves the problem of the coincidence of wants. In order for trade to take place both parties must have something the other desires more than some good they currently have that you want. Money solves this problem by trading for a good that is desired by all. Gold is a great money. But other monies have been used: Salt, Spices, Cattle. Etc.
We know that individuals are possessed of so little life that they have to earn a living, to sell their time in exchange for a modicum of social existence. Personal time for social existence: such is work, such is the market. From the outset, the time of the commune eludes work, it doesn’t function according to that scheme — it prefers others. Groups of Argentine piqueteros collectively extort a sort of local welfare conditioned by a few hours of work; they don’t clock their hours, they put their benefits in common and acquire clothing workshops, a bakery, putting in place the gardens that they need.
The commune needs money, but not because we need to earn a living. All communes have their black markets. There are plenty of hustles. Aside from welfare, there are various benefits, disability money, accumulated student aid, subsidies drawn off fictitious childbirths, all kinds of trafficking, and so many other means that arise with every mutation of control. It’s not for us to defend them, or to install ourselves in these temporary shelters or to preserve them as a privilege for those in the know. The important thing is to cultivate and spread this necessary disposition towards fraud, and to share its innovations. For communes, the question of work is only posed in relation to other already existing incomes. And we shouldn’t forget all the useful knowledge that can be acquired through certain trades, professions and well-positioned jobs.
Guys...if we just agree to the rule that there are no rules everything will be okay..right?
Ryder Moore
>would decentralized communism work ? no. end of discussion.
Juan Ramirez
It's almost like communism doesn't have a state by definition
Andrew Butler
There are too many sheep to make it work. Eventually some charismatic will come along and create a central government. The sheep will follow because people think they need a centralized government to solve their problems. There are so many "leaders" just itching to gain that power. Then your Utopian communism will cease to exist with a shit government taking it's place.
Do you loot other communist communities too? If not, doesn't that mean the only way for communist communities to exist is if they have a capitalist community to leech off of?
Levi Jones
Yeah decentralized communism works. Its called a family.
Hunter Ramirez
i think universal basic income will work if we just employed tablets and roombas to do the shit jobs
Gavin Jones
>decentralized communism Such a thing is literally impossible. The whole idea behind communism is that people are not capable of providing for themselves or having a relationship with God. Having it decentralized would ruin the entire premise.
John Jackson
you cant loot "other communist communities" communists have no private property. you use what you need buy nobody owns anything.
