"hahhaha loser you don't want kids? who's going to look after you in your old age? wtf...

>hiring a mansion caretaker
why not just have children who do it for $20 a week

>Killing your gene, not having offspring
>Genetic suicide
Damn man you're demoralized

>why not just have children
>ignored the costs/expenses of raising a child for 18+ years.

I dont want niggers to have children so that rules you out anyway.

Yeah but my gf is a really good cook

You can just steal a 18 y/o if you care about muh cost of raising

>personal professional mansion chef = $15 per hour

It wasn't so easy to work out as it seemed; in fact it became increasingly difficult to decide who was getting the most out of their different lives. But as I guided the car over the last few yards of the track and pulled on to the smooth tarmac of the road it came to me with unexpected clarity. Taking it all in all, if I had the choice to make, I'd settle for the Guinness.
Family is everything.

>retard doesn’t know how to manage funds
>MLYFMOW
Seriously, shit is not hard, got two kids and a very comfy home in a village about ~30mins from work. They go outside and play, do dumb shit, everyone knows whose is whose and where to ship them if anything happens. You literally listed a bunch of completely unnecessary, exaggerated, and avoidable costs

But you won’t poorfag

this

But how will you have your cute daughter suck your fat daddy cock then

Meh, I'm happy I got married. My wife is pretty damn awesome. Hates social shit, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, is a great cook, a wonderful house wife and stay at home mom, home schools the kids, and is super sweet, kind, and cute.

Period rage is super strong with her though. Just knowing that she will be pissy for two days a month is the only downside is pretty dope. Plus, I'm bad with money and she pinches a penny hard enough to make Lincoln scream.

>guinness
>addling your mind with alcohol in a bad attempt to get away from your kids/shitty marriage/lack of life.
brainlet confirmed.

It's a literary quote from one of the great British writers.
>brainlet confirmed.
Indeed.

>amass wealth and property
>when you die it all goes right back to the state
lmao

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You ancestors survived and reproduced through famin and war. They endured horrors only to have their genetic lines ended because of video games and porn.

MGTOW is cringe beyond belief.

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Houses like that are mean't for large families that help each other out.

You sound like a poorfag. If you do not make 6,000,000 a year you are unemployed. Stop being stupid, tear out your fingernails.

so fucking over the white race is a good idea if it saves you money? Fucking kike

>not recognising your mortality and writing a complex will giving everything to your distant relatives you cared about.

yeah, youre a complete retarded faggot if you think a narcissistic feminist womyn would care about anyone other than herself, LET ALONE a man.

Women cheat more than men, theyre just better at hiding it

men have a 2x risk of suicide after divorce, 70% of the time the womyn initiates it, and still gets to take the kids (which is the only reason why you chose to marry, the family), and on top of the kids, she gets 1/2 of whatever money you worked to make.

Even letting a womyn live in your house is fucking retarded. Even if she doesnt have a job, youll still be the one cleaning the dishes, taking out the trash, washing the bathtub, and cleaning the toilet because YOURE the asshole if you suggest she do something around the house while shes just lazing around, and YOURE the asshole for not doing "your fair share" EVEN IF youre the one paying the bills, and the majority of the rent, AND spend all fucking day working.

I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE
MGTOW
feminists want to be equal? lets see who's more depressed when theyre alone at 40 with no kids and no prospects. I know im going to be just fine.

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>period rage
Guess I’m lucky, never dealt with that. Wife says it isn’t real and that girls just got used to getting away with using at as an excuse to be bitches

All of that is material. The problem with you scumbag atheists is you can't fathom anything beyond the material world. All you care about is getting your dick wet or or getting the latest shiny product. You're no different than an animal

>chef = $15 per hour
Lol. Good luck gettijng a good chef at that rate

She also does my shopping and cleans my house for me.

>muh money
enjoy your trinkets and baubles.

already enjoying it faggot, whats a few decades more

what a cucked list

>Daily food costs of child * 18(+) years.
the food you waste in a day would probably be plenty
>Christmas/birthday presents for child.
holidays are for cucks. I am under no obligation to provide 'gifts' due to some imaginary schedule
>flight tickets/disney-land.
??
>school supplies.
homeschooling. better yet no schooling. just provide the kid with an offline computer with a dump of wikipedia. kids learn through PLAY
>clothes, videogames, sports.
hand-me-downs from relatives for clothes. pirate some roms. sports dont have to cost much
>petrol costs for transportation
where the hell does the kid need to go? walk
>need to deal with wife who takes most of my money.
don't horde (((money))) in the first place, rely on God primarily
>family outings/dinners.
stay home, or host other families. or they can host you
>paying for driving lessons/college.
driving lessons are a meme. people learned to drive from watching their parents. college is of coures an absolute meme
>10000000 other expsenses.
ha

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You’re probably going to broke without a wife or kid anyway, what’re you going to blame it on after that?

>family of 1, not 4.

but 200/7 = 28

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You havent considered suicide because a womyn took your kids, your house, your car, and 50% of your money

youtube.com/watch?v=12QInvCZowU&t=356s

even women know its fucked for us out here

MGTOW isnt cringe, its a reaction to 3rd wave feminism,
I would happily have married my highschool sweetheart and made a big happy family, Feminism taught her its better to be a whore and enjoy the cock carousal.

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huwhite women are the best women. none of the things OP listed are really an issue anyway.
>food costs of child
Have them eat the same as you and its only a marginal increase in expense.
>Christmas/birthday presents
Make them a chess board and carve out pieces. There are lots of cheaper alternative to buying them expensive gifts.
>Flights/disney-land
Take them camping. I went to disney land once as a kid and hated it. My happiest holidays were in a small tent with my parents and sibling on the south coast of England.
>school supplies
often subsidised.
>clothes, videogames, sports
hand down and second hand clothes. dont let them play video games until they can buy them with their own money (16+). Sport gear is an issue but its not insurmountable and the satisfaction of seeing your son play sports is worth it. As for the girls netball is cheap.
>petrol for transport
I pay that anyway.
>no wife who takes money
do your own budgeting. only give her what you can afford. otherwise your perpetually paying for escorts and taking girls out on dates anyway. or crushing loneliness.
>family outings/dinner
Thats one of the most fun things you can do in life. Doesnt mean you have to do it every night.
>driving lessons and college
ill teach my children how to drive and im not going to pay for them to go to college.
>other expenses
single men have plenty of expenses. id rather spend it on family than buying myself onions and video games.

As for a mansion, who wants to live in an empty mansion? Fuck that. Be a good father and husband and your family will turn out fine.

>I know im going to be just fine.
>being so salty against women that you'd purposefully die alone just to spite women

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the idea that you are NOT going to feel lonely if you're 50+ and childless is laughable.

MGTOW!

I've never seen a more retarded and delusional poster. I was going to take the time to individually point out why every single one of your responses was full-blown autism-fuel but i won't.

Have a good day.

OP me and my soon to be wife, don't want to have kids, we came here from venezuela, and both see with disgust the way society has become, she has conservative values, and is right wing.

But who would mind, we're both spics, and less spics around is good in the end, even if we'd have a good kid, there would be hundreds of shit kids around him.

>and less spics around is good in the end,
amen

>trusting a caretaker when you're half senile
>trusting a caretaker at 15$/h
kek

>walk
It’s europe, we’ve got public transport for everything, I see young children alone or with friends on the trams, busses, and trains regularly. Granted, our public transport isn’t filled rapefugees trying to run off with the kids and would get lynched for trying. He’s a fucking retard, especially if he’s a city dweller.
>Holidays
Americans commercialize the fuck out of everything. We’ll make some seasonal dishes, home made candies, and just get a bottle of booze, smokes, some clothes or whatever the fuck, basically if we don’t know what you need and you don’t want anything in particular, you’re getting alcohol if you’re old enough, because we’re all going to drink that night. Some candy, socks, jacket or something, and other little doodads that cost next to nothing if you’re younger, but people typically offer one gift per person, not 8 from mommy and daddy per child. You seem to have it right, consumerist culture robs you all of the core from what the holiday even is, kinda sad, it’s still a very wholesome thing here even though we’re not heavily religious. It’s a sales season for you

>Have them eat the same as you and its only a marginal increase in expense.
no thanks

>Make them a chess board and carve out pieces. There are lots of cheaper alternative to buying them expensive gifts.
they'll call me a faggot and go to their friends house.

>Take them camping. I went to disney land once as a kid and hated it. My happiest holidays were in a small tent with my parents and sibling on the south coast of England.
I mean I'd prefer to do that without a kid wanting to go back to his videogames or playing on a Switch.
>hand down and second hand clothes.
can't wait for them to bitch at me about how they got bullied at school and it's my fault
>dont let them play video games until they can buy them with their own money (16+)
good luck faggot, they'd steal my card and buy a switch.
>do your own budgeting. only give her what you can afford. otherwise your perpetually paying for escorts and taking girls out on dates anyway. or crushing loneliness.
Implying you have a choice with a bitch wife who will divorce you when she traps you with a kid. I can have girlfriends if they're not fucking bitches and get free sex whenever I like, they'd never get anything from me.

>Thats one of the most fun things you can do in life. Doesnt mean you have to do it every night.
sounds like fun paying for a fuckton of expensive ass food for a faggot son and a bitch wife.

>ill teach my children how to drive and im not going to pay for them to go to college.
enjoy being the worst dad.

>
single men have plenty of expenses. id rather spend it on family than buying myself onions and video games.
my chef will buy the onions and who said anything about video-games. Video-games are for manchildren like yourself.

>As for a mansion, who wants to live in an empty mansion? Fuck that. Be a good father and husband and your family will turn out fine.
maybe you're right...maybe I'll just rent like 10 apartments which I'll live in in rotation over the course of the year

Seeing kids getting fuckloads of video games each year makes me sad. More stay in their houses, alone, and less on the street. The times they do come out, it’s like a hermit briefly leaving it’s hovel

Enjoy being erased and replaced by niggers. Thanks for making it easier, faggot.

>being erased.

Nigger, i'll be so rich I can buy apartments and refuse to rent out to niggers.

>I'm not poor, I'm just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire!
So you're 16 years of age or younger?

>using age.
refer yourself to logical fallacies.

>no thanks
Just say you don’t want kids because you don’t like them already
>call you a faggot
Raise them to have respect since you pretend to be someone that may have a spine
>camping without them, don’t want them on games
Reference the first statement about kids as well as don’t get them expensive consoles/handhelds when they’re at the age to be outside eating dirt or whatever the fuck
>bully
You act as if kids have laser vision for hand downs. If they look like absolute shit, sure, it’s not hard to keep your kids clothes cheaply while not looking like a nigger
>they’d steal my card
Don’t raise niggers, again
>muh trap
This cop out again

Listen faggot, you’re not going to do a fraction of the luxurious bullshit you could do trough theoretical, imaginary, unmeasured savings. You’re not running around fucking a bunch of women like a stud either. Not bothering with the rest because you simply sound like you just don’t like kids, which is fine but admit it without hiding behind an ideology, or a spineless father

So he’s not wrong

>they'll call me a faggot and go to their friends house.
Give them a smack and lock them in their room.
>I mean I'd prefer to do that without a kid wanting to go back to his videogames or playing on a Switch.
Dont buy them a switch or videogames in the first place. If they are bored they can climb trees or read a book.
>can't wait for them to bitch at me about how they got bullied at school and it's my fault
Thats a good thing. The world isnt fair and they will need to be tough.
>good luck faggot, they'd steal my card and buy a switch.
How would they know the pin? I dont know what a switch is but there is no way a child is going to be able to steal enough from you to buy a videogame unless you are intentionally careless.
>Implying you have a choice with a bitch wife who will divorce you when she traps you with a kid.
Maybe dont marry a bitch. Get a wife who truly loves you (and trap her so she cant leave if your that insecure).
>I can have girlfriends if they're not fucking bitches and get free sex whenever I like, they'd never get anything from me.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA bullshit. nothing in life is free.
>sounds like fun paying for a fuckton of expensive ass food for a faggot son and a bitch wife.
Raise a healthy son and find a decent wife. Its just making excuses for your own shortcomings to claim good women dont exist.
>enjoy being the worst dad.
Teaching your children how to drive isnt being a bad dad. Very few of my family went to college, my parents certainly werent about to pay for me and I dont think it should be considered an obligation.
>my chef will buy the onions and who said anything about video-games. Video-games are for manchildren like yourself.
I dont play video games. Your not going to have a chef you delusional faggot.
>maybe you're right...maybe I'll just rent like 10 apartments which I'll live in in rotation over the course of the year
Transit lifestyle isnt fun, at least its not my idea of a pleasant life.

Its generally a failing of the parents not the children.

facts

you're just mad because i'm right faggot.

Like I said in my initial post:
>Enjoy your fat wife with a beat pussy from the 20+ other men that came before you who will likely cheat on you.

Of course, it’s the babysitter instead of just telling the kids to get the fuck outside and make their own fun, fosters creativity and they can get inventive with random crap they find in the yard

>Your not going to have a chef you delusional faggot.
you're*

This is a fake MGTOW thread to stop White Jow Forumss from having kids.
Forget the costs.
Have 9 kids.
9 lottery tickets with the possibility of any of your kids becoming super rich and financially able to pay for your retirement.

>huehuehue
>I’m riyte ur wrong fagit
I had 6 women prior from 14 to 23 when we met, she had 4, from 16 to 22, very happy with my wife. We both worked regular jobs, explored, traveled, did everything we wanted, and finally wanted a child. She was raised by her grandmother, takes very good care of the house and kids, and is fulfilling for her. You barely leave your room for anything other than tendies and using the bathroom. You can reference this shit faggot

Yeah I think children should be outside as much as possible. In fact adults should be too. Children tend to be naturally curious about the world anyway. At this point I think the videogame crisis is mostly affecting teenage boys. Dads should do more to force their sons into outdoors pursuits but I suppose its difficult in our industrialised societies where most men have never been taught to hunt or fish or even go camping so they are incapable of teaching their sons.

Correcting spelling and grammar is the last refuge of a man without an argument. Enjoy being a genetic dead end, faggot.

So you faggots wanna fix/change the world for the better yet you're unwilling to sacrifice to achieve that life for your descendants like your ancestors did for you. The only way shit gets better is though future generations. There isn't enough time in one life to make these big changes. You need to have kids and educate and raise them properly so they can sacrifice and work for their kids and so on like your ancestors did for you, which is why we have the things we take for granted and advantage of. Whitey didn't conquer the world and sacrifice everything so their descendants could say fuck it and not continue passing the baton until utopia was achieved.

>underaged reddit tier
Time to go back

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MGTOW like this turn into the cool wine aunts for men

>adults too
My grandmother is still alive, just hit 90, out in the gardens and constant housework. Other family members were worried she’s going to work herself to death, doctor said it’s the only thing keeping her alive. We go outside for bullshit, go check her dad’s place and help with the horses. She’s a rancher’s daughter and worked on it for her life, he’s getting old, we help out. It keeps people healthy, I can’t be fucked to go to a gym, this stuff is more productive imo

Nah, most are just kind of pissy and they don't know why during the day or two before the blood flows. To be fair, my old lady's rage is just her being kind of passive aggressive and when we find out what's up, she checks the attitude pretty quick.

>he and you called me underage.
>I corrected his fucking grammar.
>I proved I'm not underage and that he is.

how are you this fucking dumb? No wonder you have a wife you dumb fuck!

Woman isn’t crazy about the cramping but gets the sore tit and headache sometimes. Guess it doesn’t phase her since, like I stated in a prior post, she worked on her families horse ranch for basically 13 years, rode a lot too, so probably considers it marginal compared to other aches and pains

>I proved I’m not underaged
How retard? Show a state ID with DOB visible, with date and timestamp you absolute moron

>I proved I'm not underaged
Quite the opposite. You've admitted to it. Instead of screaming out and committing the fallacy fallacy, perhaps you should dwell, at least for a moment, on the fact that you were so easily identified as underaged.
Perhaps it's because you're exhibiting an extreme lack of wisdom -- commonly found in underaged morons that think they're smarter than they actually are.

>Implying only 1 person can be the caretaker for a mansion
Europoor really is a fitting term.

during the course of this thread you both proved you're married dumb fucking boomers leading miserable lives with your bitch wives.

enjoy being sad losers, don't worry! I won't waste MY life.

Hope your wives don't divorce you for being on Jow Forums arguing!

>t. jew or bitter, lonely boomer

Anyone older doesn’t give a fuck about typos on Taiwanese underwater knitting boards because we don’t give a fuck about being e-bullied for leaving out an apostrophe. Underage shits feel pressure to make sure their grammar is quasi ironclad for pseudo intellectualism and no ebully/pointing out other people’s mistakes. We all did it at one point to some degree I’m sure.
OP, you literally have to be 18 or older to post here

I’m 28 you dumb faggot, probably 12 years older than you zoomerbong

>Kicking a drooling, retarded British teen while he's down
Oh shit, I've become my father.

Or one of your great ancestors

Enjoy your pathetic lineage rightfully erased from the timeline of human history.

>maturing
you mean conforming?

As an incel this thread made me feel a little better. Thanks leaf, you were cool for once.

>all that is material
No shit
You act like theists can even fathom the immaterial outside of shroom trips

I’m not seeing what the problem with that anons lifestyle choice is. It sounds like you’re using spiritual bs to encourage him to invest in the material world in a way that may benefit you.

Adding more people into the material plane doesn’t really do anything.

Happy Hanukkah!

Based and redpilled
Didn’t even need to read the post to know you’d bring up retarded counterpoints. And it looks I was right. MGTOW is honestly pathetic