Why do Blacks campare us to cavemen

Yep. If I could travel back in time, I'd kill his wife and unborn child, proceed to beat the living shit out of him until he's disfigured, and kill him once cries out in mercy like the merciful Aryan I am.

Why don't you buy the book and screenshot it. You're making the claim. Meanwhile, here is a work by Tortsky free on the internet which very clearly contradicts the idea he was a zionist.

"On the other hand the Jews of different countries have created their press and developed the Yiddish language as an instrument adapted to modern-culture. One must therefore reckon with the fact that the Jewish nation will maintain itself for an entire epoch to come. Now the nation cannot normally exist without a common territory. Zionism springs from this very idea. But the facts of every passing day demonstrate to us that Zionism is incapable of resolving the Jewish question. The conflict between the Jews and Arabs in Palestine acquires a more and more tragic and more and more menacing character. I do not at all believe that the Jewish question can be resolved within the framework of rotting capitalism and under the control of British imperialism."

marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1940/xx/jewish.htm

A few of them? Sure there were jews. There were a lot of jews in USSR and furthermore they been oppressed, its only natural there would be jews in the socialist movement.

A very quick google search shows the book is about Rasputin's secretary and life under the Tsardom, and has nothing to do with Trotsky at all.

By just reading your quote, he looks QUITE Zionist.

Btw, who was behind Yasir Arafat?

Kek. By your logic Schiff didn't know lenin was a socialist. It was all.about baku. Still is. Commies are Somali -tier

You said it was fake, you need evidence to prove otherwise. I'm starting to think it might be real now.

Sure thing, Trotsky used word niggers. You sure a dumb Christian kike.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon
>970 to 931 BCE
>he built the First Temple
>Temple Mount in Jerusalem
>Solomon's Temple
>it was because of these sins that "the Lord punishes Solomon by removing 10 of the 12 Tribes of Israel from the Israelites.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes
>the Kingdom of Israel (or Northern Kingdom) was one of the successor states to the older United Monarchy (also called the Kingdom of Israel), which came into existence in about the 930s BCE after the northern Tribes of Israel rejected Solomon's son Rehoboam as their king. Nine landed tribes formed the Northern Kingdom

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Judah
>Tribe of Judah
>was one of the twelve Tribes of Israel.

Non-sinners aka 9 tribe Israelites:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Israel_(Samaria)
>Northern Kingdom

Sinners aka anti-god aka Jews Israelites:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah
>Capital Jerusalem
>tribe of Judah remained loyal to the house of David

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus
>Born Judea, Roman Empire

Christians consider the sinner town of Jerusalem as their holy place and their sinner tribe Jews of Israelites as chosen people.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Order
>The Order of Brothers of the German House of Saint Mary in Jerusalem
>Jerusalem
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_vult
>Deus vult (Classical Latin for "God wills it") was the Battle Cry by the Crusaders
>Deus lo vult is the motto of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem
>Jerusalem
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
>campaigns in the Eastern Mediterranean with the aim of capturing Jerusalem
>Jerusalem

Maybe check your privatization laws that enable to sell niggers food, apartments, land and everything else. Soviet Union didn't even have niggers or migrants.

The dude is literally saying its British imperialism and they should give the land back to the arabs.

Lenin did know they were socialist, but he didn't think they'd overthrow the kerensky government and Russia would become a liberal democracy.

You can't prove a negative. A person saying something is real has to prove it is real. It's literally impossible for a person saying a thing is fake to prove it's fake.

So it's not fake even though he doesn't have anything to back up his claim that it's not?

Forget the not

You have to assume the null, because you can't prove a negative.

Anyway, I did some more searching and I found a Russian site that traced the quote to a fascist newspaper published in 1933 trying to discredit the communist party. The quote appears nowhere in the book it claims to come from (which makes sense, after all why would Rasputin's Secretary, someone at the top levels of Russian government be talking to some random anti-government activist who was exiled in Switzerland at the time?)

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The dude is literally saying its British imperialism and they should give the land back to the arabs.
>On the other hand the Jews of different countries have created their press and developed the Yiddish language as an instrument adapted to modern-culture. One must therefore reckon with the fact that the Jewish nation will maintain itself for an entire epoch to come. Now the nation cannot normally exist without a common territory.
= What I think
The base narrative is the same than zionist.
Number of nations, peoples, ethnics and races have been without having the privilegi of ruling any "own" territory.
So, it's mainly: muh chosen people

> Zionism springs from this very idea.
Zionism (springs from / =) What I think

> But the facts of every passing day demonstrate to us that Zionism is incapable of resolving the Jewish question.
He is not satisfied with the progress that Zionism has done since founded. The promised land is not under Zionist control!
What a greedy boy. Zionism was came to public not that long.

>The conflict between the Jews and Arabs in Palestine acquires a more and more tragic and more and more menacing character.
There's need for more blood and violence.
So, if violence doesn't solve your problems you are not using enough of it

>I do not at all believe that the Jewish question can be resolved within the framework of rotting capitalism and under the control of British imperialism
In order to resolve this question, we need another framework: such as, UK gives Israel to the Zionist, so they can kill arabs with the money of the rotting capitalism.
It mainly says that the western capitalism framework won't allow the fascism military actions Zionism needs to undertake on the region.

Another rundown:

Alexander Smirnov's 2002 book "Cossack atamans" (Кaзaчьи aтaмaны) quotes "Nash put'", the propaganda outlet of the emigree Russian Fascist Party, as having published Trotsky's alleged quote. It isn't otherwise sourced, the book doesn't even point out what issue it was found in.

The memoirs of Aron Simanovich, Rasputin's personal secretary, are frequently cited as the source for the quote. This appears to be false. V. Khatyushin (anti-Soviet journalist) cites Simanovich's memoirs in an article of his, but the quote is not sourced. The actual memoirs do not have the quote, and as of now the article (hatushin.ru/publitsistika/40-otkrojte-glaza.html) has had the quote excluded from it.

V. Stepin in his book "The Essence of Zionism" again falsely quotes Simanovich's memoirs through "Russkoye Slovo", the newspaper of the Russian Imperial Union-Order, a monarchist emigree organization. N.I. Sakhnovsky, the editor of "Russkoye Slovo", fought as a Nazi collaborator in the Walloon Legion among with other RIU-O members - obviously unbiased.

Of course, even if Aron Simanovich's memoirs had this quote, he's hardly a reliable source in the first place. He was a Jewish con-man who worked as Rasputin's secretary and emigrated shortly after the February Revolution, only to be eventually killed in Auschwitz. He was not involved in politics and his memoirs are believed to be mostly fictional, self-congratulatory and not trustworthy.

Two other authors attribute the quote to Trotsky's article "The Counter-Revolution
at Its Last Gasp". The article is easily Googled and does not have the quote.

The claim is that Trotsky said it in a private conversation with other Bolshevik party members, however there's no known record of such a conversation and no information of any kind about who let the quote out. It also seems way too flowery and deranged to having been said in a casual conversation.

He's saying there is a jewish "nation", but is commenting on how odd it is they've formed this nation despite not having a common land, which usually doesn't happen.

What he's saying is that jews have formed a nation under common oppression, but that the British taking land off arabs is not a solution and is a bad thing. Which is the same argument socialists today use against Israel.

“Lenin’s main comrade-in-arms, Bronstein-Trotsky, did not hesitate to talk about plans and goals:“ We must turn Russia into a desert inhabited by white negroes, whom we will give to such a tyranny that never dreamed of the most terrible despots of the East. The only difference is that this tyranny will not be on the right, but on the left, and not white, but red. In the literal sense of the word, red, for we will shed such blood flows, before which all human losses in capitalist wars will tremble and turn pale. The largest bankers from overseas will work in close contact with us. If we win the revolution, crush Russia, then on the burial rubble we will strengthen the power of Zionism and become such a force in front of which the whole world will kneel. We will show what real power is. By terror, bloody baths, we will bring the Russian intelligentsia to a complete dullness, to idiocy, to an animal state ... "" 1)

Pasting your fake quote again does not make it more real user.

I went to your link.

>translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://wiki.istmat.info/%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%84:%D0%BC%D1%8B_%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B6%D0%BD%D1%8B_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C_%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8E_%D0%B2_%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%BD%D1%8E

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And? Did you read the entire page? Did you even read the very next line?

I can't help you if you're so retarded you can't read past the first paragraph.

Says the dumbfuck communist nigger. All it fucking says is that it's fucking fake with no actual screencaps of the real garbage book. Give me an english translation of this book from the actual source instead of what some faggots claim you stupid ass clown.

I did, the page links are 404'd.

user, YOU NEED TO PROVE THE QUOTE IS REALLY IN THE BOOK.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to prove a negative.

If you are so certain the quote is there, go buy the kindle version for .99 cents on Amazon and prove it's real. It's very easy to prove your positive claim.

And, to further prove your retardation there ARE photographs from the book in the link, proving the guy read the book. You literally didn't read anything.

I don't have to prove fucking shit. Back up your fucking claim you retard.

Are you a bot or can't read. Fuck. I read it all.

It's just poesy... from the 30s
>Before trying to answer your questions I ought to warn you that unfortunately I have not had the opportunity to learn the Jewish language, which moreover has been developed only since I became an adult. I have not had, and I do not have the possibility of following the Jewish press, which prevents me from giving a precise opinion on the different aspects of so important and tragic a problem. I cannot therefore claim any special authority in replying to your questions. Nevertheless I am going to try and say what I think about it.
= I'm sorry I'm not jew enough

>On the other hand the Jews of different countries have created their press and developed the Yiddish language as an instrument adapted to modern-culture. One must therefore reckon with the fact that the Jewish nation will maintain itself for an entire epoch to come. Now the nation cannot normally exist without a common territory. Zionism springs from this very idea. But the facts of every passing day demonstrate to us that Zionism is incapable of resolving the Jewish question. The conflict between the Jews and Arabs in Palestine acquires a more and more tragic and more and more menacing character. I do not at all believe that the Jewish question can be resolved within the framework of rotting capitalism and under the control of British imperialism.
= A full zionism violent rampant

>And how, you ask me, can socialism solve this question? On this point I can but offer hypotheses. Once socialism has become master of our planet or at least of its most important sections, it will have unimaginable resources in all domains. Human history has witnessed the epoch of great migrations on the basis of barbarism. Socialism will open the possibility of great migrations on the basis of the most developed technique and culture.
Under socialism, big migrations/gulags occurs, so it's an open window for jew.

> It goes without saying that what is here involved is not compulsory displacements, that is, the creation of new ghettos for certain nationalities, but displacements freely consented to, or rather demanded by certain nationalities or parts of nationalities. The dispersed Jews who would want to be reassembled in the same community will find a sufficiently extensive and rich spot under the sun. The same possibility will be opened for the Arabs, as for all other scattered nations. National topography will become a part of the planned economy . This is the grand historical perspective that I envisage. To work for international socialism means also to work for the solution of the Jewish question.
He is surprised that jews didn't vanished themselves by voluntary assimilation under URSS in less than two generations?

>You ask me if the Jewish question still exists in the USSR. [...] as the example of Palestine shows. January 18, 1937
I really don't know what I'm talking, but I don't care, because as everybody does, I talk about my mental framework and spread some data here and there.

This. The burden of proof rest on the claimant. /thread.

Retard doesn't even know his links are dead. Commies are fucking downies, I swear.

He also was quoted here on mexico stating that

"We must also bury the fact that acient Egyptians were whites, and that acient Chinese and Mediterranean people were whites also, how could the socialist revolution succeed if the white men knows...they where kangs..."

I shit you not

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I'm not making a claim, you are making a claim.

"This quote isn't real" is not a claim. It's a null. It's a negative. It's what you assume to be true until proven otherwise. It's impossible to prove a negative.

Let me give you another example. If I said "there are no pink birds in the world" then it would be impossible to prove. However, if someone made a positive claim, such as "there is at least one pink bird in the world" then that is very easy to prove, they just need to find a single pink bird. You can't prove the negative claim, because you can't survey the entire world.

Links work fine for me. Here's a picture from one of the pages of the book linked in the article.

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>Some would-be “pundits” have accused me of “suddenly” raising the “Jewish question” [...]
>But that does not mean that I have the right to be blind to the Jewish problem which exists and demands a solution.[...] But not a single progressive thinking individual will object to the USSR designating a special territory for those of its citizens who feel themselves to be Jews, who use the Jewish language in preference to all others, and who wish to live as a compact mass.
>Is this or is this not a ghetto? During the period of Soviet democracy, of completely voluntary migration, there could be no talk of ghettoes. But the Jewish question and the very manner in which settlements of Jews occurred, assumes an international aspect. Are we not correct in saying that a world socialist federation will have to make possible the creation of a Biro-bidjan for those Jews who wish to have their own autonomous republic as the arena for their own culture?
>It may be presumed that a socialist democracy will not resort to compulsory assimilation. It may very well be that within two or three generations the boundaries of an independent Jewish republic, as of many other national regions, will be erased. I have neither time nor desire to meditate on this. Our descendants will know better than we what to do. I have in mind a transitional historical period when the Jewish “question” as such, is still acute and demands adequate measures from a world federation of workers’ states.

So, mainly: if there were Jews, and those Jews don't want to integrate under socialism and vanished after generations of tight cliques, then the world has a problem (and the arabs will bring the red blood).

He had a hell of a head of hair

I can't read slavshit you faglord

Not my problem. Go prove your claim.

>Any more lies?
NEOCONS = TROTSKY

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I guess the quote in OP is true then. Your loss.

We wuz chanks and shi... oh wait

Well I won't argue with that.

>The very same methods of solving the Jewish question which under decaying capitalism will have a utopian and reactionary character (Zionism) will, under the regime of a socialist federation take on real and salutary meaning.
>This is what I want to point out. How could any Marxist or even any consistent democrat object to this?
He's telling you in 1937 what's going to happen next 100 year with Zionism.

He's completely right. But he's saying the fucking opposite you are trying to delude yourself or ourselves to think he wrote.

He clearly states: "how could any Marxist object to this?". If you understand marxist framework, then Zionism will occur, because zogs gonna zog.
After all, marxism is just another facade of Judaism for the cattle, as Christianity is.

But, if you prefer, hey, maybe he wasn't being Zionist, he was being just plain Marxist + Jews life matters some million more than others.

It's a fake quote. But these are real.

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Hey, I'm not the one who's going to look like an idiot posting a fake quote that was easily sourced to a nazi newspaper after a quick google search.

All you have to do to prove the quote is post a screenshot of the book with the quote included. It's impossible to prove a negative, it can't be done.

The quote is true, the Jew is just trying to bullshit you, because it exposes the reason he needs to be hanged in a tree.

amazon.com/RASPUTIN-Memoirs-Secretary-Aron-Simanovitch/dp/1484925858

Here's the book. All you have to do is buy the kindle version and press "ctrl+f" and you can prove the quote is real.

>All you have to do to prove the quote is post a screenshot of the book with the quote included.
I didn't claim the quote was fake.

What are you on about? Marxists are consistent anti-zionists, not like right wing dumb fucks who support zionist Trump and that literal mossad agent Tommy Robinson.

>The quote is true
Prove it.

It's already proven.

That's not a claim. That's the null hypothesis.

Another example for your thick skull: If I said "I fucked your mother" that's a positive claim I have to prove. You don't have to prove I didn't fuck your mother. That's a negative claim.

Jew posting is a gass-able offense user. Just a heads up.

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Where? Post a picture of the source material.

It's in the OP, you must be hanged Jew.

Buy it and post it here, make me look stupid or whatever. You need to back up your claims with make a retarded statement.

Commies don't fuck anything, don't be silly.

Oh look, I found another quote.

You have to prove this is false, otherwise it's true! Donald Trump really said this, and you need to go prove he didn't.

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Try reading yourself what you quote. It's astonishing zionist.

And I don't care what you think marxist are consistent anti or pro, because you don't understand the concept of marxism.
And the playmaster has many hands to control many puppets.

ref is fake, that journal doesnt have anything even closely related
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Simonovich book is about Rasputin and jews, as was mentioned
if you search russian sources most claim that zionism quote is fake

but regardless Trotsky was an absolutely cruel manic dictator no better than Stalin, and they all waged total terror and planned global revolution (it was even an official propaganda and not some 'secret agenda')

Half of all Commies should be minced and stuffed up the asses of the other half and then their asses sewed tight, and then they should be left to die slowly from infections by rotten meat in their asses.

I'm not a commie and I don't read commie books. I'm not a magatard, btw he's a kike just like all the commies you love.

>you don't understand marxism!
Yeah I don't think its me sonny.

Stalin wasn't a dictator.

>Oy vey dis quote is totally fake goy, trust me!

Wow I found another book. This book is such a source of great quotes.

I never knew Hitler hated white people so much.

Good thing I don't need prove this quote is real.

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It's literally made up, first found in a nazi newspaper in the 30s trying to discredit communism. It cites a non-existent passage from a real book as the "source" of the quote. Read the thread.

Marxism is a zionist plot to subvert all goyim, you dimwit. Marxism/Communism is a false ideology, only created to mess with people and their nations. There's nothing natural about it.

It makes no sense that you technically speaking hate the creators of the ideology you love the most. That's a general thread when it comes to you Marxist.. You hate globalism and globalists - except their mass immigration which is obviously one of the most destructive aspect of their subversive agenda.

How the fuck does it make sense to you?

If you really hate globalists and think they're evil then do the EXACT opposite of what they do - Nationalism and Socialism = National Socialism "Evil Nazis".

What's the opposite of Global? - National
What's the opposite of Capitalism? - Socialism

You people will never fucking see your own hypocrisy and contradictions, cause your porch monkey brains are fucking hardened from all the crack you smoke.

Pee Pee Poo Poo Pee Pee Poo Poo

You must be hanged Jew, one perceived misquote will not save you from the rope or the gas chambers.

It's literally not made up.

You know you've won a debate with a fascist when they resort to imagining killing you in their fantasies in their head because they've run out of arguments.

Serious question, how does it feel to live most of your life in a fantasy world?

That book sounds like a giant shitpost, honestly. Literal trash.

yeah, neither is this quote.
Both quotes are in the same book. Both are 100% real and it's your job to prove them fake.

I'm not a Jew, so I wouldn't know.

kek

>You have to believe me, goy, I am totally human and telling you the truth!

We already know your quotes are fake by default.

The quote in the OP is 100% real.

But the quote is real user,

I mean, just read the other quotes from the book yourself if you don't believe the quote is real.

Nope, you need to prove they're fake. I copied them right out of the book. Prove them fake.

I've never seen a commie make a mockery of his own books before. This is hilarious

All you teenages Commies should listen to this guy. If you listen and understand, it will change how you view everything. You have been duped. Your Marxist heroes were Zionists, and the ideology is meant to fuck YOU up, cause they hate you for not being Jews.

Ever wondered why zionists constanly call for more immigration to the West? - And you want even more?

Yuri Bezmenov - former KGB propaganda specialist for the USSR - defected to Canada during the cold war.

Listen to him:

youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

you are a prime example of why larpinig commies are regarded as complete morons
dont (you) at me with your idiocy

Theres so much truth involving the Jews, stop using fake bullshit to dissuade people.You do us no service being a lying piece of shit.

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I don't know what you mean? The book doesn't have anything to do with communism, it's about Rasputin.

I mean, it also it's about Donald Trump's love of cock apparently. I wonder how that made it past the editor.

The USSR was democratic and Stalin was democratically elected. He tried to resign 4 times and was refused each time.

Yeah, I guess we can agree communist /lit/ is complete trash

Watch this interview. He knows what he's talking about - cause he was one of them.

youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

The dude sold out to the CIA, the biggest terrorist organization in the world, of course he's going to say shit like that, he's paid to.

cant you read? dont drool at my shoe

Haha, knew it was going to be something like that..

But answer me on this.. If you're anti-Zionist, then why are you pro-immigration, when Zionism is all for immigration to the West?

Shouldn't the fact that Zionists are pro-immigration tell you that immigration isn't really that smart?

Look nigger,

There's like, 4 or 5 people in this thread saying the quote is fake, providing links and sources to analysis on the history of the fake quote, sourcing it to it's original printing as a fake quote in a nazi newspaper, and even an actual Russian guy in this thread showing you it's a fake quote. I've provided all the links you need to prove your quote is real.

The book has nothing to do with communism. The quote has nothing to do with the book it's claimed to be in, because it's a fake quote. it appears nowhere in the book, Trotsky appears nowhere in the book. The book is literally just a guy trying to be famous by saying he knew Rasputin.

If you still insist on making the claim it's a real quote with absolutely no evidence despite all of the people calling you a moron, then you are literally beyond help.

And why is it that you call everyone racist, just like the zionist mainstrem narrative wants you to?

You Communists are very ill informed, and you can't spot your own contradictions, double standards and hypocrisy. It's almost as if you don't have the ability to reflect on things?

Why would I need to prove the OP's quote is fake, if you proved that OP's quote is real by posting the quote right out of the book?

Therefore it is 100% real.

What the fuck?
I thought it was about Trump sucking cock and Hitler hating whites?