CHRISTIANITY MAKES NO SENSE
i believe in God but christianity makes no sense. from the trinity to original sin it makes no sense. How do people believe this? How do they rationalise god sacrificing himself to himself to forgive sin?
CHRISTIANITY MAKES NO SENSE
i believe in God but christianity makes no sense. from the trinity to original sin it makes no sense. How do people believe this? How do they rationalise god sacrificing himself to himself to forgive sin?
You just kinda grow up with it and some people who manage to think for themselves see the stupidity. Others don't.
Religion is for NPC's
>Muh meme flag
Means nobody takes you seriously.
>They won't realize I'm a kike if a post a swastika.
Third-grade strategy skills you have there, user.
I really wish it did. It would be kind of a nice reality but I can't make sense of it.
Do you think that the Infinite Creator should be something you understand and "make sense of," oh finite one?
>CHRISTIANITY MAKES NO SENSE
There are 2000 years of the finest white minds untangling the mysteries of these events, user. Unfortunately you live in a time when almost all of that has been hidden from you.
The conundrums you have were recognized and answered long ago. You just have to look.
The trinity is the confusion caused in the minds of idiots who don't see how Jesus could literally be God while god is also in heaven. It's like someone finding it odd that I am talking to you while sitting at my computer hundreds of miles away.
Jesus didn't sacrifice himself to take on the punishment for your sins, user. He sacrificed himself because he knew that rising from the dead would be a phenomenal enough event to ensure that his message would be carried to all his people for centuries afterwards. If he had a happy, comfortable, normal life, nobody would remember him or what he told us. He went through great misery FOR us, so that we could be saved by his message.
Kind of funny that he probably doesn't understand physics either, but accepts it because someone else told him it works. Trusting in God, however, is too much of a stretch.
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While the trinity is bullshit , original sin is not , once upon a time man was a immortal then they sinned and became mortal and now where enabled to die . Jesus came back to undo this curse by defeating death and like him we will be resurrected
God knew we would fuck up just as any parent knows that sooner or later their child will break something valuable in the house. Eve had never encountered a lie before. It was a new concept to her that someone (the serpent) could tell her an idea that was not true. Part of the taint she and Adam acquired that day was the knowledge of how to lie.
Stop feeding the shills. Sage anti-Christian breads. This is not reddit.
>How do people believe this?
LARP
They LARP it, to make people with a simpler, truer belief get entrapped into a silly false religion.
Stay believing in god, never do religion, get into meditation, be saved. Easy.
It's not supposed to. That's the basis of faith duh
Yeah kinda like that, before sin earth had the same conditions as heaven ,you cant lie in heaven. Satan activated the place holder evil through humans and evil got activated on earth
>it means to kill nonwhites and sack constantinopley goy, that's turn the other cheek of you
>CHRISTIANITY MAKES NO SENSE
are you jewish? if so, then thats the reason
People are saved by FAITH. It doesn't take much faith when you realize that the other things that the Bible says are true- so why do you balk at the things that you don't understand yet? Here's a good doc about how the Bible was correct about Sodom and Gomorrah all along:
the bible contradicts the trinity
read the text instead of listening to people who insist on trinity or original sin. no such thing as trinity there. in fact, jesus is very clear that he does not have the same set of knowledge as the father. as for the original sin, people interpret it differently. i prefer the interpretation that jesus' sacrifice was the price for the sin of the world, and so we don't need to worry about original sin. me? i'm not a sinner. that's already taken care of, user. you're not a sinner, either. imagine being sky dad and sacrificing your own son to save the world from sin. but people keep insisting they're still sinful, as if god was not absolute in his solution and that jesus did not finish the work.
sage for off topic
you dont understand Christianity and the trinity.
Christ stands for all the people, The Cros stands for the suffering thad al the people do,the rusurection is what you need to do to become part of God.
Why do you assume that God should make sense you stupid nigger?
I just recognize that some things being taught aren’t from God but from humans who just want to impose their beliefs or to simply manipulate people.
Why would he not make sense ? why go to the realm of something you do not understand ?
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You have almost no understanding of Christian theology.
>every1 who doesnt suck the heebs flesh and blood weekly is a kike
t. heeb worshipping faggot
You need to educate yourself on how god is not real and religion is an ancient yet effective control technique
Christianity is hard because it demands things from its believers, even in the philosophical sense before you get to the religious part. But it's very true.
Hell is for ever!
My problem with Christianity is that it teaches the wrong lesson: "Suffer the evils of this world, and have faith that Jesus will deliver you from this horrible place to a paradise." Basically, the concept is "God's creation is a bunch of shit, and I'll get you someplace better if you just grin and bear it."
That's a shitty theology.
The trinity makes sense in the context of indo-european tradition.
This is an awesome distillation, especially when considering how the saints, and especially the martyrs, are officially-sanctioned examples of the Imago Dei.
Jesus was created by jews to fool the goyim into being obedient, hard working shabbos goys. Whites are naturally empathetic and naive because trust is a core requirement of organized European society. In Africa it's whoever is stronger and more aggressive. In the middle east it is whoever can screw over his neighbour either violently or by manipulation and dirty tricks. In India, it is anyone who can shit into a river without falling in and drowning. And in Asia, it's obedience to authority
Christianity stuck with whites because we are the only ones genetically programmed to be naive enough to adopt a pacifist philosophy of love on a planet populated by wild animals, psychotic demons, the incontinent, and humans with insect cognition
BTW you are all heretics.
Sorry for the black pill, everybody. Keep on doing you for the Jew
So, you heard about it from this guy, who knew this guy, who met a priest once and now you have trouble understanding.
You do know that there is literally a book on that, right?
To be safe for all eternity:
A: Admit that you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God, and that you need a Saviour.
B: Believe that Jesus Christ, Son of God & Messiah, died for you sins and rose again, as prophesied and recorded in the Word of God. Trust in His finished work.
C: Call on His name, ask Him to save you, and confess that He is Lord.
Some resources that may help:
TTB.org has a verse by verse Bible Study for download or daily listening.
Chuck Missler’s Learn the Bible in 24 Hours (youtu.be
Robert Breaker’s Bible Study and Topical Sermons (youtu.be
The End is nigh. Tomorrow may be too late.
the Imago Dei.
i did not no that existed i will give it a read for sure thx.
Why should God cater to our little human pea brains?
>The trinity is the confusion caused in the minds of idiots
You mean such Arian "idiots" as Sir Isaac Newton, John Milton, and John Locke? Trinitarianism is originally based on a lie. Investigate the Johannine Comma.
Depends on the theology of atonement. Franciscans for example do not believe that God needed a sacrifice to convince God to love humanity.
Nah I'm pretty sure he sacrificed himself because he's a bastardization of the Mithras archetype, except instead of slaughtering the bull and having it's blood cleansing the world, he slaughters himself because he's a cuck.
It doesn't make a lick of sense because it wasn't written by smart people. It was written by dumb goat herding kikes from antiquity. Many other religions were written by the high classes of other cultures, some pagan faiths being among them. Shit, the fucking religion in Lord of the Rings makes a shit ton more sense than your kike cuck religion.
It does definately not. But go ahead try to explain why.
technically, God of the old testament was kind of a jerk, until he sent his only son Jesus (technically himself, God in human form) to experience what it is actually like to be human. When jesus (God) experienced all the bullshit humans have to deal with he decided to die for everyones sin.
in short, its kinda like that show Undercover Boss, where the head of a company finds out that the jobs below him are actually harder than they look, and he becomes more lenient and forgiving with his workers.
original sin = man evolving to the point where we can tell right and wrong. There was never a literal fruit of "knowledge of good and evil". So you can't share the sin of Adam since he never existed.
trinity = Jesus is God on earth, Holy Spirit does work for him so it's not really like a Trinity (plus there are Jesus' for other species so it would be billions upon billions)
Jesus wasn't a sacrifice to himself, we didn't have to kill him
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if you want to no why you shouldn"t give away cristianity watch this, its a good start to understand what is important.and why it is important.
>How do they rationalise god sacrificing himself to himself to forgive sin?
>Child spills milk
>Milk needs to be cleaned up
>Parent cleans up after kids instead of forcing them to do it
>How do you rationalize this
What exactly is confusing here? The law for sin is death. God paid the price instead of us, following his own law. If anything he's consistent with his own standards.
Science does not refute God, although it might refute the Bible.
Determinism v Free Will = ??
Jesus sinned?
it's your first time on planet Earth and you still believe in material causality
a few thousand more iterations and it will begin to make sense
The greatest argument against Christianity isn't theological. (well beyond "you shall know them by their fruits")
It's simply that they worship to the point of idolatry the destruction of our ethnic groups in our nations in favor of immigrant invaders.
Even the most radical Conservative of them do this even if they might couch it in terms of "Christian" migrant invaders in your presence.
Literally the only group worse about this in the West is the Jews and neither of them do it out of goodwill for their fellow man.
It's like Rosseau said; "the philosopher loves the far-away Tatar so as to avoid having to love his neighbour".
> It's like Rosseau said; "the philosopher loves the far-away Tatar so as to avoid having to love his neighbour".
please explain
That's not even an argument Sven. Wether someone dedicate their life or dosn't worship at all, the truth is still the truth...
No. He was punished in place of us. The law demands heads will roll. Either yours will roll or Jesus can be substituted in your place. It's called substitutionary atonement in Christian theology.
Christianity is outside the realm of science. Read it as a moral tale if you want to get the most out of it.
Also God isnt the creator. He is the principle of creation
tree of knowledge eating = sin => knowledge is sinful
abraham = a-brahmin => abrahamism is an anti-brahmanical movement
devil is a diminutive of deva and satan is a diminutive of snatana (as in snatana dharma, eternal holy law)
ya christnigkikeianity is an anti-intellectual cult of people who can't face the fact that they are the bad guys and that they serve jewry.
People romanticize, fund and generally stand-up for niggers, but hate them once actually in their presence.
Rosseau honed in on and criticized the exact sort of globalist thought that leads cosmopolitans, of which Christians are included, to ignore reality on the ground in their vicinity in favor of abstract fantasies of people elsewhere.
Hence why the average Christian can and do justify to his in-group that bringing in clan-voting criminal invaders that destroy natives is the right thing to do, because those natives were never on his mind in any more than an abstract notion of say "souls saved when helping out at the soup kitchen" anyway. (this is very obvious if you bother listening to more radical """conservative""" Christians who conflate their loathing of the secular west with it's ethnic groups, not that said """conservatives" are willing to conserve anything much more than some scraps of theology in the form of the correct prayer book or outward aesthetics of their liturgy)
In short, I consider most Christians to be more than a little evil.
they fail to realize that african and midle eastern people dont live by the same rules ,the european rules come from christian valeus and we trust others to live by those rules , wen they see blacks and midle eastern men rape and steal,murder and dont work and be happy abouth it we dont understand that people can be like that. we live in the west by christian laws and rules.
The universalism proponed by Christians is clearly not the objective truth.
There is no human commonality or shared spiritual ground between my people and the MENA thugs you people deliberately bring in, regardless if they "find God" once charged with raping children at their confirmation or not. (which incidentally happened here and the Priests and congregation went out of their way to prevent the Arab scumbag from being deported).
Do you believe in G-d, my shlomo fren?
>only a certain kind of people get to heaven
>universality
Whatever dude the truth is the truth.
>It's all Christianity fault
Imagine being this retarded
Go away achmed
>only a certain kind of people get to heaven
Ah yes, what was the criterion for that again?
Belief in Christ of which the mere claim is enough for most Protestant groups (as it was with said Arab child-rapist) and maybe a bit of good works and atonement if you're of the only two significant branches who believe in that stuff. (both of which favor massive ethnic cleansing through mass-immigration into Europe as supposedly "good works")
that meme sucks and you should feel bad. just own it: you worship a dead jew on a stick because you fear reincarnation so much you are willing to create hellish conditions on Earth. you've contributed zero to religion in a positive manner, everything you have that's even quasi-good was stolen from elsewhere.
jewish pride 2018 nigger. just own it.
im 100% bavarian phenotype, nigger
Trinity
>All god, the ocean of consciosuness all minds originate from
>The son, human kind
>The holy spirit, the force/energy connecting human kind to the all god
Original sin
>living in a material world with senses that desire pleasure is a state of desiring perpetual sin
>Because you fear reincarnation so much you are willing to create hellish conditions on Earth.
Uh, no. I really don't even understand what you're trying to even say but ok
>You've contributed zero to religion in a positive manner, everything you have that's even quasi-good was stolen from elsewhere.
No clue what you're trying to say. It's ok tho. You are a sorely confused cringelord, I understand
Nothing of what you say is an argument against why christianity isn't the truth. Your personal feelings or beliefs towards christians and non christians are just that, your own personal feelings and beliefs.
I'm sorry you don't get it, but that's part of your test user. Try faith. Or don't. But don't complain if you're not even willing to try.
The truth is that your fruits are rotten.
The objective identifiable truth is that you and yours are the biggest importers of MENA criminals this side of the hemisphere, only beaten out marginally in influence by that tribe of Christkillers half of you worship in lieu of him.
You can take your "faith" in importing invaders against your own ethnic group and shove it the same place your head is firmly lodged, where the sun doesn't shine.
Hey if you wanna be another lost cause go ahead I'm not stopping you, just warning you. What you say is not the truth and you don't know shit about me or people like me. You think you do, but you don't. Just another fool.
>deception as the original sin makes no sense
>oy vey
>tree of knowledge eating
See how much you know you cant even get it right.
>8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
>knowledge of good and evil
Trinity actually makes sense.
Male + Female = new life
using both Left brainhalf + Right Brainhalf = complete human being
That not whats meant its about God , how can Jesus the son be the same God as the father in a trinity while the father is higher in rank
Just remember that the god of the bible is just another small letter g god, a tribal god. Christianity makes no sense because christians abandoned their culture to worship another tribe's god. A god that will never acknowledge them.
>17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 1
The father sends the son
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>But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The father sends the holy ghost the father out ranks the son and the holy ghost
So did we learn anything today ? of course not
>31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Acts 5
>1But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. 3But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. 6And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
Based Hans.
the good thing about paganism is that your gods died long ago at ragnarök, what explains a lot of things happening here on earth.
Time to take the Gnostic pill! Humans are born into a fallen, corrupt system. Humanity doesn't have to earn or ask for salvation, humanity is OWED salvation.
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according to Christianity that's the shape he used to showed himself to humans.
i hear ya
ive been trying to read the bible lately and right now im on deuteronomy but so far the whole book has been god blessing these wicked jews for no real reason while hardening actual good peoples hearts and allowing the jews to destroy their cities including their livestock women and children for again no reason and constantly demanding tedious animal sacrifices of baby sheep and cursing humanity for generations over minor reasonable mistakes
lmao, did you read the part where he kills infant babies? this is who christians claim as jesus.
they dont even want to worship the same god, they want to worship the man named jesus, thus the trinity was invented
Yeah Christianity has been fake for 1900 years , the Son is always lesser then the father , even here on earth you get your genetic diseases from your father and you become the lesser
It's just a moral philosophy about being decent to one another. Don't overthink it.
>implying that anything other than a moron believes otherwise
Lmao wow.
God exists, it’s just that religion itself was created not by “divine will” but by people to control the masses. For instance, to curb degeneracy, status and power. At least that’s how it was for the Abrahemic religions, for stuff like the Egyptians I rationalize it as a bunch of people who tried to rationalize their world without an idea of how it was created. Like Christians who believe that God sculpted the Earth with his hands and created us using clay. Obviously he used the Big Bang to bring life to everything and we came along with that, for better or for worse.
Trinity is a lie
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