Redpill on antipsychotics

Doesn't it block aggression like invega? I miss healthy aggression. Invega makes me feel like a flatlining bitch.

Literally doesn’t exist as advertised and fully believe it pushes psychos to the edge faster than they would on their own

Please just kill yourselves you future mass shooters, save us all the trouble. Anyone who takes that shit is less than human

>sedating as fuck
isn't that why you should take it before you sleep?

>manic
Ill never understand mania, my mom was bypolar raising me and some of the shit shes done i will never recover from. Do you not realize you are being crazy, like you cant just stop and breath and look at your actions objectively?

desu more likely to kill myself than anyone else senpai

Yeah, but I wake up still feeling groggy as fuck until several hours into the day. Had a few prescriptions for benzos when shit was getting out of hand, those weren't nearly as bad the next morning.

classic. same thing happened to me. Did you get off them?

To put it simply, all drugs that effect the brain or thinking pattern are incredibly unsafe because of how finicky they are and "unintended" or unknown side effects.

This is especially bad with antidepressants in countries that have "socialized healthcare", where antidepressants get prescribed like candy and the government hands over most of the shekels to keep the goys complacent in increasingly anti-self societies. Of which, antidepressants only make outward expression more consistantly positive, but generally make all the symptoms worse because they build up instead of being released consistently.

Nope, you just do it man. Else I wont have the condition.

Before I knew I had it, sometimes I would be like; Wait, this is not realistic but why am I perceiving it as something real? Was pretty weird lol

just smoke some cbd weed. it removes anxiety while not making you high. it is natural and the real herbal drug we white men smoked for thousands of years. try it. it may be lifechanging for you if you just tried pharmajew products till now

>Yeah, but I wake up still feeling groggy as fuck until several hours into the day.
that never happened to me. it didn't really do much at all and same for the antidepressants I took.

I have actually contemplated that.

Guess it just affects everyone differently. Never been on anything but that and anticonvulsants, though, so can't say anything about antidepressants being sedating

the real redpill is that our understanding of mental illness is completely incompetent

I believe mental illness does not exist and its all part of evolution

i can see that. i look at it more as, we're batteries. everything that goes into the mind is a certain energy, it's up to us to consciously transmute the energy in a favorable direction or it all builds up as static bullshit and spills into the physical.

Standard 2nd line/conjunctive treatment for mood dysregulatory disorders, has been for like...40 years?
t. former inpt psych nurse
>seroquel PRN
this guy gets it
Depends. It's my front line med when I want to drop a patient, but that's in conjunction with benzos and diphenhydramine. But regular, or long-acting, I've seen greater long-term compliance in its users as compared to 3rd generation antipsychotic users dealing with psychosis/schizophrenia. Mania, those guys just do whatever the fuck they want.
brainlet
OP, look into links between bipolar disorder and seizure disorder, then revisit what this man just said.

No you can't be objective, except for brief moments, then the mania takes over again. It's torture, it amplifies all emotions we are capable of and causes delusions and hallucinations. It's like being injected with some nasty drug right in the center of the brain.

a human needs unhappyness for change. the problem is we live in a unnatural society and it is perfextly normal to be unhappy with it but in the same time we have no power to change that. that creates 'mental illness'. it is not that bad as doctors male it out to be because it is the normal thing every healthy human should get when realizing in what mess we are living right now without an option for a change

this
why aren't you on an anti-epileptic as your primary

evil

Nicely spoken!

found the frontline healthcare provider

I am, I'm on 1500 mg depakote. I have tried several of the newer anti psychotic drugs but they didn't help or made it worse or gave me akathisia that is a special torture of its own.

>seizures and bipolar
I’m on anticonvulsants, they were initial prescribed to people as bipolar meds. Lot of anticonvulsants operate this way; started off as bipolar and then discovered that they can be used for seizure control. Stay way the fuck away from Trileptol, shit might as well be a ward-grade sedative

Why aren't you on lithium carbide for bipolar disorder? Is far better from the "zombie" POV.

Seconding this. Cbd has anti psychotic properties. It got me out of a months long derealization streak.

You might find "positive disintegration theory" interesting

I take valproate and a very low dose of an anti-psychotic, and I don't really feel sedated.
You usually feel sedated in the beginning of the treatment, because doctors usually prescribe high doses at first to get rid of the symptoms fast.

Also, is severe bipolar disorder enough to get full disability payments?
I was told I can still work and all, but it's rather hard because medication still has a numbing effect. I would only be able to work part-time and at home.
Also, I was refused a ton of disability compensations on the basis that "I got much better.".

>akathisia
Been there. I was screaming for Benadryl and Cogentin the whole time. Fuckers took their sweet time.
Why are you on dual therapy, did monotherapy not work?
he's already on VPA
>trileptal
disgusting drug, I question its use every time I see it, has no business in modern psychiatry unless literally nothing else works including CBD and Cognitive therapy have failed
I think it's the other way around vis a vis the pharmacological history, but you're essentially right. My continuing education units for the last 4 years have all been on the link between seizure and mood d/o. APNA's done great research on it, and then fucking buried it.

Interesting, I will definitely read in about that subject. Thank you

mania is a state of mind like any other emotion, just heightened, you dont really realise you are acting over the top and drastically until you calm down or are actively told.
i tried benzos to help (lorazepam and sometimes diazepam) but often found id be quick to abuse them and things would continue to get out of hand for me,
to any user outchea on pol i reccomend sertraline (or if ur a burger, zoloft), ssri's are less zombifying in their mood stablisation

>disability w/ bipolar
yes, depending on severity and how badly you just don't wanna work
collecting the diagnosis and becoming a social pariah is the easy part

I'm on disability for severe bipolar but I would rather not have it and be working. My mania gets worse each time it comes and the last time I got out in jail for 6 months. I have also been SWAT teamed 5 times over the last 3 years.

yep, we're just hopeless to exercise agency in untenable circumstances. It's just easier to say you're broken, not the machine at large, here take these pills.

>SSRIs and Benzos
>with mood dysregulation
Jesus Christ dude. SSRIs cause mania, Benzos cause disinhibition.

>we're just hopeless to exercise agency in untenable circumstances. It's just easier to say you're broken, not the machine at large, here take these pills.
This.
There are no chemical imbalances (for the most part), only lack of premises.
Check em.

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It was an involuntary commitment and the doc didn't know me in one case, that was ability it lasted about 3 weeks. Other times it was just docs trying things as they like to do and ignoring my feedback.

then why do my patients hallucinate yellow elves when they skip their Haldol Dec for 2 months
the number of times I've heard this exact story dude

I'm interested in the link between seizure disorders and bipolar, I have also been diagnosed with TPE. Do you know anything about that?

>question it’s use
It was what I got frontlines with for temporal lobe epilepsy, secondary generalization seizures. I get them only entering/exiting REM, lucky imo if I’m going to have them. Some young chick neurologist thought we were batshit for saying it only happened during sleep or shortly after awakening, had a pajeet that was sure it was sleep apnea or GERD (I fucking hated Indians after, was 13 when this all happened). Between the two of them, 4 EEGs, a wire down my nose (was great to go to school looking like that), a bravo, a CPAP that was fully throttled to where you couldn’t breathe out, tonsils and adenoids removes and uvula trimmed, etc. felt like a lab rat, only to not have all the Neurodes ripped off during my last EEG as they held me down
>holy shit, this is epilepsy!
I’m from Texas, this is at MD Anderson, everything took forever, a lot of incompetence for the prestige it has. I had to take adderal to combat Trileptal basically turning you into a drowsy retard incapable of coherent thought or critical thinking. Woman had me take it in the morning and night ffs; current neuro said she must’ve been new to the field if she’s front lining it and even moreso having me take high doses of it in the morning before I do anything. Almost fell asleep behind the wheel because of this shit several times. On 400mg/day of Lamotrigine now, do just fine, minor case of shivering hands but I can live with that

I have never heard this acronym in my life.
Or maybe I have and I just forgot.
Spoonfeed me until I remember to not be an unreliable retard.
This is so common I can't even be mad for you. Even the seizure-inducing adderall.

>then why do my patients hallucinate yellow elves when they skip their Haldol Dec for 2 months
I'm not claiming that chemical and physiological problems don't exist, only that they don't exist as much as they're treated.

Daily reminder this is what Universal healthcare does; absolute power corrupts absolutely no free market competition between providers= evil government monopoly

Temporal lobe epilepsy.

I had to go to my child pediatrics for the adderal, been seeing me since I could grow hair, threw them my way without question, it never caused any epileptic response thankfully. It has seriously led me to believe that docs do this shit to patients for their own experimentation that they can’t otherwise justifiably do on their own accord. They could’ve just sent me to an EEG up front with restraints, as we had video of me getting up and walking around in the pettymal (I slept through those mostly) instead of fucking GERD and sleep apnea. Blew my mind, 12 years, successful career, wife, and two kids, later, and I’m still bitter about it all

I’ve got temporal, aside from possibly fucking with your cognition, it seems pretty harmless. Then again, I only get triggered by going into/leaving REM sleep, you photosensitive or anything of that sort?

Sorry, half asleep here, meant to post more
>essential tremor
Propranolol if it gets unbearable
>lamictal
Please
GOD
Tell me they warned you about the fucking rash
They're basically abused in the adolescent population.
>why you act out
>take mid-to-high doses of Abilify
>BID
>that'll fix it
Ok but the patient is a Congoid and their siblings are 100% the same, but we just don't wanna talk about that, do we
Causation, correlation, etc. This phenomenon is a result of the psychiatric community being run by medical doctors with pills and not PsyDs with cognitive treatments.
fuck, thanks, am dumb, sorry
short answer no I don't know shit
long answer all the pharmacologic treatments are the same anyway and there's a definite link between bipolar and epilepsy, but I've never seen research that narrowed down the types of epilepsy or specific neural tracks
do you have specific questions? I don't know enough to just blanket ramble on this.
always assume your practitioner is a faggot. also, help this guy out, would you.

Fat meme that's what i take

I don't know for sure I have it. When I was still driving I would sometimes go into a very dreamy state and writhe around in my seat, same writhing happens in bed sometimes. Can trigger this with meditation too.

>They're basically abused in the adolescent population.
>>why you act out
>>take mid-to-high doses of Abilify
>>BID
>>that'll fix it
Yes, it's sad.
"it's not us, it's you"

Just like in Russia.

Don't have specific questions just wondering about latest research. The whole thing is really curious, mood disorders I mean. I know someone who is hyperthymic and has temporal lobe disorder. She has a near constant elevated mood with now and then short, sharp crashes.

This.

Imagine using ANYTHING other than CBD to treat any form of mental related issue.

>Imagine using ANYTHING other than CBD to treat any form of mental related issue.
Sounds pretty anti-semitic.

Been on it 6 years, no rash, tremor is mostly aesthetic. Never informed of possibility of rash though.
>help this guy out
I honestly have no fucking clue if I share his TLE or if I’ve got FLE, between 4 neuros, they used them as if they were interchangeable; Wikipedia on FLE sounds more in line with what I’ve got i.e. sleep trigger.
Pretty sure I got TLE mixed with FLE because of read above; maybe I have both. You have what sounds familiarly correlated, I used to have strong jamais vu and dysphoria as my aura if I woke up and was slipping into a seizure. Those being called focal aware, basically have a psychoactive shitstorm before you start flailing on the ground with a tonic clonic seizure, broke my nose and woke up in a pool of blood because of landing flat on my face and then proceeded to pound it on the floor. It essentially starts in one part of the brain and spreads rapidly, like a nuke and the blast wave; called focal to bilateral. If you’re controlled, you might get some Tourette’s-esque shit going on, nothing that should affect your ability to operate and be productive though. Just got to remember that seizures are basically your brain having a fucked up path and then starts misfiring like a blind coked out hillbilly trying to hit a target

I was having really bad anxiety and I’m pretty sure my doctor used me as a guinea pig to test out Risperdal as an anxiety medication. Or he thought I had something other than anxiety and didn’t tell me. Either way It literally makes you dead inside. I threw it in the trash after a few weeks.

>The rash
You mean Stevens-Johnson or just the mild one?

I would imagine whichever one is the least pleasant. Never heard about one before

Fml at all the mental masturbation in here.

>latest research
Above my paygrade, potentially even outside the scope of my practice.
She could just be a genki girl, get her some spats, make her run track til hot, spooge on her tight abs.
>not seroquel
Gay. Unironically use Benadryl.
The one where your skin falls the fuck off.
Hey so yeah while they were titrating you up you coulda developed Stevens-Johnson Syndrome, which is a hyper-allergic reaction treated with mega-doses of Benadryl and causes, like...your skin to fall off. Glad someone warned you to look out for that side effect, since it comes on about as quick as Doomrider on a cocaine binge.
>interchangable
sigh
whatever I'm just glad you're on something that works and can live life

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Stevens-Johnson is the one I was warned about. Pretty severe, potential fatal, super rare.

Basically just said "If you get a rash, stop taking the pills and call us immediately".

Pretty sure that's Stevens-Johnson. I just checked my packing, that's what they called the "STOP TAKING IMMEDIATELY IF"-side effect

you're not my mom
yeah. that's the one you're supposed to get taught. that's the one that the computer always prompts, "Does the patient have a rash?" before you can document its administration. that's the one that's supposed to have a giant fuck-off warning label on the bottle.
this profession is fucking pathetic.

>skin falls off
Wew boy, that sounds fun, glad it didn’t happen. But yeah, no mention of shit, I probably would’ve thought I got hold of some poison ivy/oak/sumac/oleander given the location, then have my cock fall off as I ignored it.
>glad
I’ve lost all faith in the medical field
>just give me my pills and see you in a year

Pretty much from Baclofen to motherfucking Cefixime all carry that warning. You'd get a rash from too much eggs or propolis too.

i was on antipsychotics about a decade ago for less than 2 years
i quit cold turkey because the side effects were getting worse (which I still deal with today), i was zombified which scared my mother, and i was starting to lose my cognitive faculties. went in after a serious manic event with an IQ of 165 and now its noticeably lower. i wish i never took a single pill.

busted.

all my cookware is funded by zoloft

>Supposed to get taught
You aren't?
I can't even go in for my bi-monthly prescription without getting a five-minute lecture on how to use it properly

Personally I think all mental illness has physical underpinnings. people vastly underestimate the effects of environmental toxins, or the side effects of eating the same meal 600 times in a row.

don't smoke it! eat it, take the tincture or vaporize the distillate. you can literally get it in pill form but don't smoke anything.

Chemical lobotomy

Some practitioners do their jobs, some don't. Some don't. American physicians do fuck all teaching and then get shirty when the nurse tells them "oh your dick could fall off," meaning you're risking your job by doing patient education in some environments. Pharmacists don't do it for whatever reason. And of course no one reads the pamphlets.
I don't even get asked if I have any allergies before I get my flu shot.
Pfizer please go

You go bimonthly? I go in annually, maybe it’s just the states or even just my neuro. I’m on rotation international rotation. Basically goes like
>any seizures
>nope/yes and lie about how long it’s been because in Texas, you can’t drive for 6mo from the time you had one, a meme if you’re living in Houston
>If yes, you know you’re legally not allowed to drive
>yep
>did you
>nope, I got a taxi or friends (fuck no I didn’t)
>any new side effects
>nope, all good
>alright, see you in a year
The only people that ask me if I know how to take it is the pharmacists, and they don’t bring up rash or anything like that either. That whole law is horseshit, who the fuck can afford to pay a driver for 6 months if you’re not loaded. Our public transport doesn’t go to the suburbs and it shouldn’t either, be the best way to cheaply give niggers free access to the burbs.
>sorry boss man, don’t have anyone willing to majority inconvenience their working/personal lives to ship me to work and back
>can’t afford a driver because you don’t pay me enough
>Seeya in 6 months!

now post rates of occurrence compared to lamotrigine

I meant as in picking up my prescription bimonthly - I haven't gone for long enough without needing a doctor for something-or-other that it's been relevant for me to come in just to discuss how the meds are working.
That and I take it as a mood stabilizer, so the seizures aren't really an issue. Only issue I'd have with cars is I typically feel like I could stop them with my bare hands when manic, but thankfully haven't been there in a while.

Ummgawa, Bwana. Do not eat that shit or you'll never be like Tarzan.

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Yeah gotcha, no our pharmacists don’t really say fuck all either.
>have you used this before
>yep, 15 years now
>okay, here you go
Might just be America since pharmacies are damn near fast food restaurants with the amount of people they cycle through in a day

>every on Jow Forums is on some sort of psychiatric medication
Fitting.

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Gooble-gobble one of us, user.

>Certain threads attracts certain people

And every person on Jow Forums is on meth.
And every person on Jow Forums wishes death for drug users.
And every person on Jow Forums lives in Florida.
And every person on Jow Forums lives in California.
And every person on Jow Forums has been in prison.
And every person on Jow Forums wonders what prison is like.
And every person on Jow Forums plays video games. And every person on Jow Forums hates people who plays video games.
And every person on Jow Forums is married.
And every person on Jow Forums is an incel.

I hate the current state of the world because natural selection no longer applies to retards like you.

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basically a lobotomy. i was on this for awhile, seroquel for a couple years. there are some others they had me try.
ive been off of all pharma for 5 years now and regret nothing. if you can avoid getting started on them, do so.
getting off of them is crazier than the craziness that got you to the point of being prescribed them

gor lamictal dig mere social? jeg tog det fot at behandle social isolering

trods min skizo lidelse vil de ikke udskrive benzoer

They are overpriced tranquilizers, they don't "work" in the unjewed meaning of the word, they just avoid the bad mental problems you supposely have because they are so destructive to your brain it stops working properly and you become a sluggish good goyim that won't have symptons because you won't have anything else too. It is used sometimes as a political weapon (like in USSR, Nazi germany and the entire planet currently) but if you talk too much about it the thread gets archived.

>6 out of 1 million people
>95% survives
>link related per lamotrigine as asked
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905385/

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Det tager det værste af de depressive faser, og jeg kan klart mærke at jeg er mere stabil, men jeg vil ikke sige at det fungerer som en benzo ville. Og dem er det også en dårlig ide at tage fast.
Hvis du har tendens til at være deprimeret kan det være det virker, men ellers må du prove at finde noget andet der ikke er en benzo