This thread is for discussing how we can make the EU even better. How do we accelerate federalization? Putinbots and Trumpshills NOT welcome.
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Go fuck yourself Hans.
Putinbots NOT welcome. Shoo, shoo!
>EU APPRECIATION THREAD
>is a german
EU outer borders would be nice
I know right! haha
Hahahha, what a bad fucking joke
eat shit cancerfaggot
EU is a scam
Can't you subhumans read?
You mean the ABSOLUTE STATE OF EUROPA?
>everything I dont like is russia
you are cancer and so is your nordstream
I wish you nothing short of death by muhameddan rape
>flag
Every. Single .Time.
Why do you hate Nordstream so much? Because it delivers gas to us instead of gibs to you?
>Armenia
>Europe
Troubled geography
Also, original Turkey is much more European than Azeri Turkey
>herp derp Poland is gibs only country
fuck your propaganda and fuck you, biggest leech of the continent
everybody and their mothers know how you use EU regulations to force everybody into buying your useless shit
but thats all you are
shit
Uh oh. Someone has run out of gibs!
EU is a disease and should be dismantled / kept between cvcked countries like France, Germany and Sweden.
Kys
>the myth of consensual market transactions
Are you a communist or something?
Genuinely curious, why do you hate the nation-state?
It is such an obviously politically beneficial arrangement to have unity of people, culture, society and government. Why impose a supranational layer on top of that?
Genuinely curious, why do you believe a federation would eliminate regional cultures? It doesn't in Switzerland. It doesn't in the USA.
I have no fucking clue what you silly girls are so anxious about.
You just mentioned 2 countries that aren't in the EU you retard.
yes, of course enemies of mankind unite to spread cancer
Did he mention the EU anywhere in his post, you toothless cunt?
What a toothless dumb cunt you are.
Avoiding questions with unrelated blabber is a Jewish tactic.
Your thread is about the EU, the guy from Belgium is asking you why you dislike the nation-state in relation to the point of your thread. He's asking why you want all cultures and nations in the EU to share a culture and become robotic like the filthy Germans always have been and you started talking about countries who want nothing to do with Germany's vision of Europe.
that map looks very familiar... just need to defeat the english and russians again or wot
Stop talking like a faggot hans
It's a map of continental Europe, leaf.
yes we can 1st close all border expel all imigrants
2 ban all socialist party
3 ban all political corect ullshiet
4 begin rebuil armament sectors buil missile long and medium range atomic bombs etc to become 1st power (we can )but urss and us tray to block us
SO we need a nationalist-EU
No, this thread is about a European superstate, not about the EU in its current incarnation.
You dumb cunt. Learn to read. It might make you less of a failure when it comes to incorrectly nitpicking and embarrassing yourself in front of everyone.
Dumb cunt.
Your European superstate requires all countries to give up their sovereignty to the EU, i.e Germany.
inb4 dumb cunt
guess it went right over your head eh lad.
Easy does it, Satan.
Did I mention the elimination of regional cultures?
Though that is a problem, it isn't the only one, nor the main one. The bigger the state, the less likely any one group of people will be listened to. The desires and concerns of the French people for instance may not be the same as those of the German people, which will be determined at least in part by culture. If there is a federal European government making the same decisions for both, then it's likely that at least one of them will not have its desires met or concerns addressed, which wouldn't happen within separate French and German nation-states. Now expand that problem for at least thirty nations within the EU.
The further removed the government from the people, the more the people will be ignored and neglected.
Did your countries have to give up ALL their sovereignty to form the United Kingdom, you dumb cunt?
What a dumb cunt you are. You have single-cuntedly turned this thread into dumb cunt central. Dumb cunt.
Go brush your tooth.
>The desires and concerns of the French people for instance may not be the same as those of the German people,
That's what a representative parliament is for, plus regional autonomy in specific areas.
But all of that already works just fine within separate nation-states. Why overcomplicate it with a supranational federation?
I'd love to stamp on your head you German scum.
Greater European unity will make it harder for China and USA to dictate the term. It ensures greater European sovereignty.
stfu u curry lover we ar all happy u leave EU, cunt!!
I accept your dumb cunt concession. Dumb cunt.
I can see the sense in standing together against global superpowers, but why does that need to be in the form of a European federation? Why not something like a league of European nation-states that agree to coordinate economically and militarily, but otherwise have complete sovereignty?
>Why not something like a league of European nation-states that agree to coordinate economically and militarily, but otherwise have complete sovereignty?
Only much tighter integration will ensure we speak with one voice that is loud enough to be heard abroad. Look at the mess we're in now. That's because everyone's too selfish and only pursues his own interests.
If the second largest economy in your wonderful EU is begging for some investment and stating their country is in an economical crisis, i'd say the EU is failing pretty miserably.
sup Deutsche Bruder, came back from a Gavrilo Princip thread where some stinking shiptar spewed his venom against him and all Serbs, and Hungarian shitposters carpet bombed it with anti-Romanian memes. i am so disgusted, i wanted to post picrel in that thread, bu it got archived.
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anyway i am back, and happy to see this thread again. still upset the Mongols ruined the Princip thread though.
and i simply cringe at so many anti-EU shills here too.
We must elect a great leader!
Nobody wants to save the muslims, that's just you. You live in a gay little liberal dream that every else hates.
thx god i see smart ppl here , for a moment i waz tinking this is only a comunist site
>muh rapefugees
reminder to everyone ITT that this is part of Merkel's brilliant plan to create the Fourth Reich.
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>more rapefugees will come
>some worse-than-9/11 attacks will happen, riling up Europeans against sandniggers
>the EU leadership will exploit this, using it as excuse to create the EU Army
>use the EU Army not only to kill and expel rapefugess, since they are no longer needed, but also to kill anyone rebelling against EU
>establish puppet governments in all EU
>move EU HQ from Brussels to some German city, like Aachen (Charlemagne had his throne there), Berlin (Welthaupstadt is no longer a dream), or Nuremberg (in an ironic fashion, so as to show even if Germans lost WW1 and WW2, they won WW3)
>make all major European states smaller by supporting irredentism and autonomy movements, so as to keep Germany big and be bigger, to make sure no one is big enough to oppose Germany
>make the most pro-EU countries larger, especially eastern ones, so as to keep strong buffers against Russia
>turn EU in the United States of Europe, thus uniting Europe in one country for real
>invade Turkey somehow so that neither Russia or America to have it as ally against Balkans
>pic related becomes reality
mark.
my.
words.
Become a single country, flat tax for everyone, United Military and police, fuck NATO, leave Ukraine and Belarus to Russia and the EU absorbs the rest of Europe.
split the europe
britscum can go back to usa
scandinavia independent
yugos slay each other
east goes to russia
france and other lazy types such as spain and greece go to chinks
germany cries alone
>how we can make the EU even more kosher
FTFY you filthy jew.
but yes if UK leae EU we cut more then 70% of muslim in EU u fuking retard all london is full of curry guys and blacks and arabs so Have a nice day
But don't you see that forcing that kind of integration upon the various peoples of Europe, rather than letting it grow organically, will only create resentment and ultimately result in a very unstable federal union?
You may not completely support the current EU, as you seemed to indicate above, but the average person does associate the flaws of the EU with the whole concept of a European federation. They see an unaccountable bureaucracy, with globalist politicians that seek to replace the native populations with rootless migrants that are easier to manipulate. That's not something that will be easily forgotten.
>use the EU Army not only to kill and expel rapefugess, since they are no longer needed, but also to kill anyone rebelling against EU
kek, optimist
also check'em
I can relate to your disgust over this absolutely vile, subhuman behavior.
There's a britmutt itt spreading his dental plaque, and it's gross. SO glad Merkel is kicking them out of the EU.
can anyone make some lyrics for the United States of Europe anthem to the tune of Deutschland Uber Alles?
>Become a single country, flat tax for everyone, United Military and police, fuck NATO, leave Ukraine and Belarus to Russia and the EU absorbs the rest of Europe.
Absolutely, mind-boggingly BASED.
yep kill all comi and refugess or expel and close bordes is the 1st step
Who's speaking about forcing them? Of course it needs to grow organically, it must be the result of the will of the people.
Bismarck didn't force unification, he waited patiently until external threats made unifying neccessary.
Also, thanks for your sacrifice, bongs!
i hate how Hungarians came to a thread not related to Hungary and Romania at all yet they still shitposted against us for no damn reason. it's like they want this feud to last forever so we would not be united in EU.
glad we sent so many Romanians to UK, i heard some shills claiming Romanian immigrants caused Brexit, and if it is really true, than glad we sent some of our people there to drive them out of EU then.
So if it took several centuries for the European nations to grow close enough together to make such a federation feasible, you'd be fine with that?
The cancerous dumb Romanian namefag returns. Go to school buddy, it will help you.
Take that fucking text speak back to YouTube, illiterate gypsy cunt.
Why are those 3rd worlders so butthurt all the time? Why are they only happy when they can spread their misery and suffering to good and honest people?
Anything but organic federalization would create instability. If it takes time, then so be it.
Brexit is one of the most hilarious backfires ever.
it only made EU stronger, and confirmed Britain's status of America's bitch.
INFINIKEKm
Nah, I'm just saying that it's about as retarded as joking about just not fucking up Pearl Harbor when you see a map of Asian Pacific region.
If Flanders and Wallonie were separate countries they would be able to pursue their own interest better. If Belgium was a part of greater Benelux it would have access to more resources. Defending historical nation states from utilitarian POV will lead you nowhere.
Even if you are turbolibertarian and don't beliveve in military, internal market volume is still a thing. Belgium might not feel it in the current century but for statelets a supernational entity is a must. Does anybody want to give them money and protection and get shit on in return though? Not really. Right now Hungary at least can tell Germany to fuck off then the latter starts whining about immigrants. Without the EU Germany would just strongarm based Eastern Europeans into doing whatever krauts wanted using Deautsche Mark credits.
>confirmed Britain's status of America's bitch.
lmao this is so hilarious to me
they are butthurt because their country no longer looks like A FUCKING MERCHANT, and that it was divided perfectly along ethnic lines.
and they hate us because we saved them from Communism in 1919, when the jrw Bela Kun ran away so his corpse would not be thrown in the Danube like how Rosa Luxemburg was thrown in the Landwehrkanal.
George Soros is also Hungarian, probably he wants to ruin the world out of pure butthurt.
Then I'll stand by you if and when that happens. I'm not holding my breath, though.
>gets called a butthurt third-worlder by the Kraut user he's supporting
>post laugh.jpg
>dies inside
Thanks!
Trump entirety exploited Brexit during the MAGApede fad in 2016, he knows that he can Make America Great Again by keeping Britain as America's bitch to have an unsinkable Aircraft carrier.
he obviously referred to Hungarians being butthurt at Romanians as usual.
>If Flanders and Wallonie were separate countries they would be able to pursue their own interest better
ahahaha, check out this guy. maybe some russian regions would also be better off independent, eh comrade?
Britmutt reading comprehension is shockingly abysmal.
>image
Fucking SAVED.
Thank you for being one of the few posters on here one can have a sensible discussion with. Really appreciate it.
>Hungary is third-world compared to Romania.
Dumb gypsy bastard.
>Romania is third-world compared to post-Brexit Britain
dumb Paki bastard.
Do you think you're going to invest in France to take them out of their economical crisis, Macrons words? Maybe you can move some industry from Romania to help their near 25% unemployment rates for under 25's. Oh wait, Romania is shit hole that has no industry to move, you could always move some of your own industry and kill some of your own job market, but you won't do that.
>Third worlder speaks about spreading his gypsy kin around the world.
>Kraut comprehension: It's the Hungarians
Hun, you've played up enough for tonight.
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save this one too, as a reminder we always were good friends, and we will be again with rifles in our hands, crushing anti-EU uprisings.
He is like every "right-wing" liberal faggot in Romania who lives under the impression that he is highly intelligent when in reality he's borderline retarded. I can bet he never traveled outside Romania.
Al pro-EU cuck Romanians are exactly like that or even more retarded.
Kek. Top-tier hopes from a low-tier shit hole.
From bottom of my heart, I solely wish wish that Belgians bring guillotine to Brussels for next yellow vest riots & police will join them to get those spineless politbEUro leeches to show them the true European tradition of leadership change
i did, to Italy in December 2016, in Rome. wish i saw Trajan’s column though...
and in Budapest in February 2017, wish I stayed for a few days more to have a cruise on the Danube.
those cities looked nice, and they would be better under a better administration.
being pro-EU is good for our interests, you -56% cannot comprehend foreign policy,since all you do is bomb sand niggers when Israel tells you to.
and who the fuck are you ese? how's that wall going?
>Do you think you're going to invest in France to take them out of their economical crisis
This is exactly what we should do. And what you've done for Scotland for decades now.
Sunt roman, handicapatule. Ti-am mai explicat intr-un thread cum ne-a futut UE. Nu mai fi retardat. Singurul lucru pe care il vom mai primi de la UE este o multumire cand au terminat.
Yeah. No bloody kidding, desu.
There's a big difference between should and will. You won't move your own industry out of Germany to help them.
have you saved my OC here ?
>Thank you for being one of the few posters on here one can have a sensible discussion with. Really appreciate it.
No problem. I can sympathise with the perspective of European federalists, but the problems of the federal government of just my own country, let alone the EU, makes me skeptical of how feasible it all is.
We racists need to wise up and give up more sovereignty and power to the European Union.
Think of the greater good.
One people, one Europe, one leader.
Putin is our friend, the scriptures even say that the beast has the feet of the bear.
EU Russia alliance is happening in our lifetime.
And because you talked about foreign policy. Everything is the US's foreign policy. Even NK now.
Every-fucking-thing that happens in any "democratic" state is done with the guidance of the US State Department under the approval of Congress and POTUS. Even LCK had a CIA handler in the CIA station in Bucharest and was directly reporting to them, just like our former SRI head who, surprise surprise is now Ambassador to the US.
This is a literal EU shill
Wow I thought you guys were extinct
I thought Europeans were supposed to be intelligent, how did you all fall for such a blatantly shitty EU model?