Tell my parents that I dont believe in Islam anymore

What is wrong with full-sized pizza? Other than it's a disgusting fat habit. Was it bacon pizza or something? Is pizza haram or some shit?

French here, and yeah I dont understand how could they be able to make so many babies

Although I can not lie, we have a really good and strict education, many of my uncles are engineers working over seas and there are a lot of doctors among my aunts (my father and mother are both doctors as well). And all of this was built from nothing since both my grandparents cant read or write.. But anyway thats not the topic and it doesnt justifies their behavior toward people who leave the religion.

Forgot to mention its during ramadan sorry

Shiiiiiit, stupid move.

You say you have learned the entire quaran, how can you still not do your best to keep up your facade, knowing what will happen to you if you try to quit?

Because I find it difficult to hide what I really think of, I often express myself a lot about anything, reading my mind is like reading a book, my english is poor sorry for the shitty comparisons.

Actually, Al-Kafiroon (in the Quran) tells muslims that they have to respect everyone's religion and beliefs, even if it contradicts what is written in the Quran.

I was born into a Muslim family, very strict sunnis.

I hated it and ended up rebelling pretty hard. Got ostracised by entire family except dad. My immediate family have started to accept that im not muslim and they cant make me one, but man do i wish i was just born in a non crazy family.

Currently trying to fix the developmenr issues this lifestyle gave me. I never played sports bcos my parents didnt believe in socialising or skills, they wanted me to pray and be a good muslim in my free time. Now im a loser drug addict who is very alone on life and sometimes i wish i had just been able to be a good mindless muslim drone and then i would be accepted and have so many friends in my muzzie community. Instead i dont leave the house because i get looks because im know around the area for being 'weird'.

Of course nothing justifies their behavior. And its fucking sad because if they are already educated successful people they could at least be more tolerant.

Is there a teenagers shelter or a friends house you can stay in? You already fucked up twice and by now it would be hard to convince your parents you're still a muslim.

I do have friends who proposed me to spend the vacations at their houses, but they live pretty far now, also, how will I come back to my house ? I need it to finish my university's admission and to find an appartment.... I think

You're going to hell.

LMFAO DONT. DONT DONT DONT. You might get killed by a fanatic for real. It doesnt have to be a family member. Just play it as if your mom got it wrong or it was a bad joke or something. Try to appear extra devout. Dont ever tell them you dont believe. You are gonna get yourself in big trouble.

you really think thats only in islam? its literally in every religion but no one practises because the law forbids it, unless your in a filthy wahabi state where beheading is permitted.

Even if Im going to hell, what would I win if I went to heaven ?

Islam says you get everything you want and you'll always be happy once you're in heaven, but it can not work, what if my deepest desire is to spend eternity with someone I love ? And that persone either A) wishes to never see me again or B) Is in hell, how can I be happy if my only deepest desire can not be satisfied ?

Also if everyone is happy and free and all that shit, why does the quran states that there are different Heaven levels ? means some people will have access to things that other will never be able to see. Heaving would literally be a life2.0, only difference is that you died before.

I'm a muslim too, it's a really though situation. On one side, I dislike certain things, especially the whole afterlife situation. But on the other side, I don't have to like it for it to be true. Maybe I can't be happy and I just have to deal with that, maybe things just aren't fair.
Leaving islam isn't worth it for me. I'd be sacrificing my relationship with my family for, well, something I guess. I don't know.

Just tel,them your having a chrisis of faith and you need some time to work things out

Good for you on leaving an abusive religion behind.
With that being said, you're going to lose your family and should start getting used to the idea that you won't be able to depend on them anymore.

Prosper freely, kind spirit.

>literally every religion.
No it's a pretty specific issue for Islam.

My advice is LEAVE. You're an adult. Don't go to Algeria (nobody can make you). Religions that place religion above human interaction are all garbage.

islam is stupid as fuck

It's a specific issue for Abrahamic religions, (Judaism, Christian/Catholicism, Islam). Although it is arguably not quite as bad as the caste system in Hinduism.

discord.gg/5fpTkR

being a muslim means you dont know how to socialize?
>drug addict
you need morals
>muslim drone
you were a drone before you thought you wasnt a muslim
>people think you are being weird
you are

question, how do you get your drugs? do you go and buy it hand to hand or how do you get your fix?

You dont learn how to socialise when you are in a community thats completely muslim, and your parents keep you inside because you need to focus on allah. Also the fact thats its a sin to talk to women or even look at them with desire so you dont get any exposure to the opposite sex. You dont know shit, fuck off.

did you spend your youth infront of the pc?

how is 'islam' taking over the west if every single person i know my age with muslim parents isn't even muslim anymore?

muslim youth are being westernized as we speak. seen many muslims that arent fasting because work is too hard on them, and people are not fasting on holidays because they want to celebrate europic holidays.

Yes, parents dont understand the internet past emails and basic web browsing, so they got me a computer to keep me occupied and play games. My dad had a problem with me leaving the house unsupervised until i was 16

But you do know how to socialize in any community. Born in a Muslim community don’t mean nothing for an up comer in the community.
It’s a sin to talk to women for the sole reason of the intention of lust. You even see sheikhs talking to women. You are talking to your mother about your problems, you acknowledge your sisters presence.
You don’t know much about the outside world to be safe in it, might be the reason of your parents keeping you in the one place that you know the best; the pc. Don’t blame the world for not adapting to your inability.

>parents don’t know the internet past emails and basic web browsing
How about you teach them? Teach them about the world that you spend your life in. Most likely they don’t see any future in it, they rather you in the world than on the net.
Do you have discord? We can chat for a bit if you like?

As a tharjafag I would appreciate you getting shanked by your extremist, clan, yet I sympathize with you apart from your shitty taste in 2D grills. Keep us informed what happens when your dad is back.

My advice would be keeping up the illusion until you are independent, then ditch them completely or at least build a safe distance.

aaaaaaaaaaaand they're bringing me to the mosquee
fuck it

run my nigga

>You dont learn how to socialise when you are in a community thats completely muslim, and your parents keep you inside because you need to focus on allah.
>Also the fact thats its a sin to talk to women or even look at them with desire so you dont get any exposure to the opposite sex. You dont know shit, fuck off.
LOL, fuck off. That doesn't stop most muslims from going outside socialising.

Why do you not believe in Islam anymore? Are you atheist now?

islam is a cult and stupid like most monotheistic cults

you're better off

that's not every religion.

It's pretty bad in Atheism too. Every seen someone get religion in a family with none? They get ostrozised just the same.

how zealous is your family? if they are zealous wait until you are done with college to tell them. they might refuse to pay for it.

I think you should go back to Algeria. Take your family there, too.

>kafir thinks he knows how strict muslim families operate

In your degenerate shithole you probably only see """muslims""" aka very good actors who put the mask on outside to keep their social status up. Find me one muslim who prays all 5 daily salat and still chats to girls or does 'socialising' with people who arent muslim.

It's not what you want, but it's probably best to hide it for now. Wait until you're done with HS and whatever comes next (college, trade school, whatever) until you really breach the topic. Maybe try to secretly get in touch with your aunt in the meantime?

Can we swap places? I want a desert vacation and speaking with religious wise men. I'm also vaguely interested in Islam because I grew up Christian but people of "faith" today are acting so strange. It's not even about religion anymore, it's all a social activity, women presenting themselves in slutty clothes at church, guys all acting like arrogant assholes. I love religion and God but I hate the social aspect of it.

>Christian apostasy
>Jew apostasy
>Hindu apostasy
>Buddhist apostasy

You be an apostate in any one of these religions, and sure you're bound to be socially ostrasised, but not to the point of being killed. I'm agnostic, but saying all of these religions and Islam have the same standards is completely false.

I was in the same boat as you one year ago user, age wise and everything. My advice? Please, don't try and convince your family to go against Islam. It will not work. You're parents, brothers, sisters, and every one of your family members has been brainwashed from the moment they were born to be muslim. Pointing out logically fallacies will not work on them, I'm sorry.

That being said, you should also just give in. In front of the imam, just regret eating pizza with your friends, (or just say you didn't actually bind the fast that day, and were actually planning on eating pizza all along). Don't try to convince him your point of view. It will not work.

My mother was the hardest thing when I was in your shoes a year ago... she couldn't stop crying. She thought that me leaving Islam was like me dying. Wait, no. She thought me leaving Islam was the biggest insult to her and her family. She always told me, "imagine what everyone will say, that [insert mother's name] raised a kaffir. Even your aunt because a decent muslim" (my aunt is kinda like the opposite of yours. She married my uncle and became a muslim). Telling her how she was wrong just made her condition worse.

Point is, don't try to bring them to light.

>we'll talk with your father and sisters tonight

fucking RUN

ITT:Infidels.

23 and I'm also in the same situation. Except I haven't bothered learned the Quran and just researched the topic as much as I good. Are there any verses in the Quran you think are ridiculous?

I should probably add what I think. From what I've seen it looks like people see what they want to see in the Quran because it's vague. To me that just sounds like bullshit.

Its not vague.
Everything is explained, you're just lazy.

Am not your kind, but am reading about the very thing you just said doesn't exist in an app from play store.

Explain this BS then youtube.com/watch?v=1azySjz4edk

Use your brain and read a little.
Why you watching some gay wahabi looking chimp monkey off of youtube, these types are endless, their arguments are boring, they dont contribute to the argument anything.

Why do you have to tell them and why urgently before your exams? People usually take the approach of just saying they are something and saying "meh it's cultural/was my upbringing". They might talk about it in private with other people who'll understand but not in public with people who wont understand.

Also why say an "atheist man", that goes down terribly. But if he was said to be "not religious and open" it would go down ok, even though it's the same thing.

>read a little
You mean learning a whole different language and still not understanding the exact meaning because its texts from centuries ago. There's a reason why there are scholars dedicating to understanding the quran. You're just talking out of your ass.

the quran was ment to be read in arabic, and reading it in different languages butchers the message. the quran is uniqe in that manner. learn language