>Everything I have I own out-right. >Everything I buy, I buy in cash. >I have no debt or money owing. >I never buy anything I cannot afford. >I always keep 1 year worth of living expenses in savings.
That said, why am I constantly shamed and made fun of by everyone for doing this?
My parents started using credit cards in the 1990s, now they have $200,000+ credit card debt, and pay something like $4000 per month in minimum repayments. Their situation basically made me scared shitless of ever taking on any kind of debt.
Yeah interest is no fucking joke. That said, you have to understand that debt doesn't always mean bad news. Having one year savings for personal expenses is good, but sometimes you need a push in business related subjects and taking some debt is a necessity. Again, what you need to take care of is not debt itself but how much interest it generates.
Owen Jones
This is dumb fuck logic. A business loan can be ok but usually isn't.
Zachary Barnes
You're not shamed and made fun of for doing that You're lying. They probably make fun of you because you don't have a card. If you are so frugal as you claim and do not buy anything you can't afford on hand, yet don't use a card, like me, then you are just plain weird.
If you can't handle the responsibility of a credit card, like your parents, then I suggest a debit card.
Sebastian Brown
This is what I want for my life but I fucked it up with to much debt early in life. I'm about 5 years away from this.
Jose Nelson
Boomer do not understand debt at all and think credit is free money, never ever listen to them about money.
Angel Fisher
Lmao, I guess all the small and medium enterprises are dumb fucks then. INTEREST fucker, that's what really matters when you're considering a loan.
Asher Ortiz
>Everything I have...
What do you have? Do you own your home?
And don't lie, we see your flag.
Nathaniel Walker
I accept the fact I am never going to "make it big" financially like all of you will with all your business adventures which you're taking on debt for, but hey, I watched my parents do all that shit to try make it big, and they failed every-time.
I would rather live frugally than ever risk putting myself in my parents position, even if that means I miss out on all kinds of lucrative business opportunities.
I really value peace of mind and being free from financial burden and stress, even at the cost of never giving "it a go" to "strike it big".
I was looking at Bitcoin back when it was $150 a pop, and I could of bought a lot, seeing that go upto $20,000/pop does hurt a little bit, but at the end of the day I am still very comfortable anyway.
John Murphy
give yourself a pay raise by making your home more efficient.
Alexander Thomas
boomer here.. we did use a lot of credit, but it worked out in the end. But if rates stay low, borrow all you can and and worry about paying it later.
Nolan Green
I've got no debt and I save for everything I want to buy too. My savings are about two years wages. Could save more but I fucking hate banks. How do I get out of the banking system?
Evan Hall
People will shame you for literally anything if it doesn't conform to "what they would do if they were you".
>be me >hit the jackpot and land a girlfriend who wants nothing more than to have a large family >but we can't afford it >hit the jackpot again, reclusive and pretty much autistic uncle dies leaving me a small fortune through years of playing the stock market with savant like success >several million dollars >every friend "wow you're so lucky, you can just spend your entire life traveling all around the world to occasionally come back to your City penthouse" >"actually all we want is to get a home in the country and raise 5 or 6 kids, hell maybe even more." >"oh... thats... ok..."
WHY ARE NORMIES SO OBSESSED WITH TRAVEL WHEN THEY HAVE EXCESS MONEY, WHY AM I SUCH A WEIRDO FOR USING THIS MONEY TO BRING THE ONE THING WE BOTH CRAVE ABOVE ALL ELSE. FUCKING NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEE
normies only care about becoming Liveleak superstars.
James Davis
Fucking shitty Aussie internet, its so bad it doesn't even know what country I'm in
Nathaniel Johnson
you're living my dream, congratulations user, please be happy for me
Connor Torres
We have been conditioned to waste
Owen Morris
I rent, property prices only started softening this year in Melbourne, they're down about 5.5% from this time last year.
Everything I own, every holiday Ive been on, it's all been paid in cash. I have a pretty nice home-gym setup worth about $8k, a bleeding edge gay-ming PC, and miscellaneous household shit all that I bought in cash.
I am currently just hording money to buy a house, as that's the next thing I am interested in purchasing, prices going down is a good thing. I am thinking long-term though, I want a house, not an apartment, apartments are more expensive in the long-run with all the bullshit you have to pay for the "benefits" of living in a new high rise with a bunch of yuppy cunts.
Alexander Kelly
It is a known fact that irresponsible people instinctively shame responsible people because it exposes their own irresponsibility.
>sober people are shamed into drinking >healthy people are shamed into binging/eating shit >financially responsible people are shamed/pressured into taking on excessive debt with no backup plan, almost as a right of passage.
I'm here to tell you kid: you're on the right path. You will encounter stupid, short-sighted, irresponsible people your entire life. Make peace with that and keep building your wealth.
And don't forget to enjoy your wealth once in a while too.
Xavier Moore
own car, no debt from STEM degree, 60k saved - about to blow it all on a house and get fucked with taxes. feels no different than when i was paying off my debt. it feels better when you hit your goal...but then its the same, really.
Liam Lee
KEK
Brody Hall
since you gave him some solid advice I feel like I should pass on the favor and give you one
STOP
REDDIT
SPACING
LEAF
Luis Hughes
I always pay cash for my male prostitutes. No intercourse, I am only interested in performing oral sex on them. Just the penis. And the balls. That's my focus.
That's as goy as you can get. At least with a mortgage, you can write your interest off your income (in most states).
Paying rent is nigger as shit.
Stop paying rent as fast as you can.
This is America.
Jose Roberts
That's awesome that you have a long term goal, though. Keep chipping away, you got this.
Luke Moore
>That said, why am I constantly shamed and made fun of by everyone for doing this? Because Jews have propagandized everyone into thinking debt is okay. I'm a little less stringent than you, I do use a credit card (I never carry a month-to-month balance but I like the points and the ability to use in multiple countries) and I have about three months of living expenses in liquid savings.
I, too, am often mocked for being "cheap" because I live within my means and prepare for the possibility of an emergency. This is a symptom of a deeply sick culture.
Angel Jones
I don't post on reddit so:
WHAT
IS
REDDIT
SPACING
AND
WHY
DOES
IT
MATTER?
Aaron Barnes
yea, but for the first five years or so your principal per month is like 250....the other thousand+ is right into the hands of (((interest)))....you get fucked either way, and if you dont pay taxes, see what happens. paying fucking 6k MINIMUM on a 200k house. jew jersey fucking BLOWS. sanctuary state, what a fucking concept
Elijah Walker
>Graduate from uni last year, making 70k out of school >1 Bedroom condo on the subway line is 500k JUST
My rent is controlled and I'm only paying $550 all in because I share with someone and have for 5 years. Fuck buying ath in the Toronto real estate market.
Noah Brown
>WHY ARE NORMIES SO OBSESSED WITH TRAVEL WHEN THEY HAVE EXCESS MONEY Television. The funny thing is that normies don't even make the most of it when they do travel, often they'll go to a Caribbean country and see nothing of the country itself other than the drive from the airport to the resort.
Josiah Cook
>your parents are typical boomers never spend more than what you earn. Ezpz
Bentley Taylor
>My parents started using credit cards in the 1990s, now they have $200,000+ credit card debt And when they pass away you'll inherit it :`
David Bell
Did you miss the "fast as you can" part?
Put an extra $150, 200, 300 in that payment.
While you're the right - the ammortization table favors credit HEAVILY on the front end, it also hits the principal hard and fucks up that interest program. Do that for 5-6 years (no exceptions) and re-evaluation. You'll be shocked.
It IS possible to outjew the jew.
Caleb Williams
>That said, why am I constantly shamed and made fun of by everyone for doing this? I am in the same boat, however my parents were never in debt. My father refused to use credit cards for anything. He raised me teaching me about economics being a game. Sure he had a credit card or 2, but he ONLY used them infrequently and paid them off on the next bill. Christmas purchases or gas on vacations are the only times I can remember him using them. One of his quotes that stuck with me: >If you can't afford it you don't need it. It is simple, but most people reeeee whenever I type it out. When you have a limited income as a majority of people do, you quickly realize what you want and what you need and how separated they are. I play the credit game a bit. I have 2 vehicle loans not totaling more than $4k right now. I use them instead of credit cards to keep rolling credit just in case. I own my house because I bought a fixer-upper in a rural area for next to nothing. Sure its not perfect, but it has 6 bedrooms. It needs work, but who gives a fuck because I own it. I don't give a fuck who judges me. I still have a CRT Console TV in my living room, and still play N64 on it with my kids.
>Your money is debt, retard It is mine with no strings attached. It represents my labor in exchange for goods and services. My debt is the $4k I owe on credit cards, which my bank gladly allows me to repay on a monthly basis. I play the stock market a bit with a few retirement plans. I have a pension and annuity. I also buy silver and gold. They are not "get rich quick" schemes, but they are hard to track for tax purposes, and easy to liquidate. They will always have value.
Jack Richardson
then they will come back and talk about how amazing the people were and why we need to let them in. not realizing that resorts are carefully managed green zones which have been carved out of literal hell itself
Mason Young
Don't tell me people still watch television in the current year? Fuck
Ian Roberts
Preserve your earnings. Invest in metal. It's very easy to do here and you're an absolute fool if you don't, especially if you sit on (i.e. 'save') cash. This is the only sure fire means to preserve your earnings and not have it erode by way of inflation and an ever weakening dollar.
Nathan Brooks
>My debt is the $4k I owe on credit cards Car loans. Not credit cards. I was fixated on the OP's conversation about his parents credit cards.
Brody Murphy
Normies do, fuck if I know why. Everytime I have the misfortune of being near a television it's either home improvement shows, sports, or travel shit.
Alexander Evans
I suppose the argument is you don't have to pay debt if you die??
Julian Peterson
Stop LARPing and set up automatic payments on a credit card when you have big purchases like a normal fucking person.
Landon Evans
>especially if you sit on (i.e. 'save') cash. This is actually true. As much as I respect OP for his frugality, having more than a couple months of liquid cash sitting around is just asking for it to be stolen by jewish inflation and money supply manipulation.
Caleb Rogers
>scared shitless of ever taking on any kind of debt that's called wisdom, user.
paid my house off in 4.5 years and have had the same car for 20 years, I have 5k in credit card debt 3k of that is because of Obamacare.
not paying interest is how we defeat the Jew.
Bentley Peterson
>constantly shamed lol bullshit, you dont have friends and you dont go outside
James Hill
Not exactly, the debt will be paid from out of their estate. However if debt > assets then you won't actually inherit the debt. Still leaves boomers being retarded and not giving their family a boost after they die, but you can't be made to be worse off.
Gavin Long
K, then give me all your money.
Jacob Mitchell
yeah you're right, but you know what he fucking meant too retard.
Jason Myers
ok - you can put that DIRECTLY into principal sum remaining?
how does writing off interest work...thats a LOT per year, so does that mean you get that money back via taxes? or will basically pay no taxes?
thanks for the helpful posts brother
Leo Richardson
you don't know what your flag means do you.
Joseph Roberts
side note here too, it's only a fraudulent sale if you plan on defrauding creditors within two years of your sale. for instance, start taking valuable items from your folks when you think theyre gonna die soon. namely, stuff that has a paper trail.
Benjamin Evans
No, boomers were raised in an time when nothing ever went wrong economically. My mom bought a townhouse with help from my grandfather and then charged rent to 4 of her friends and that covered her mortgage payment and paid for her tuition.
Ryder Taylor
You’re on a list somewhere. Same.
Brayden Johnson
friendly reminder that when you pay off a home the insurance policy is automatically cancelled without you knowing.
>money >representing anything And there's your problem. If there's a paradigm shift, your money is useless to you. On the other hand, that same type of paradigm shift would make your debt useless to your debtors. Thus, by having debt, you have the upper hand over your debtors. "Interest" is simply a service charge for the luxury of having the upper hand.
Obviously, having too much interest isn't gonna bode well for your finances long term, but sometimes opportunities to invest liquid wealth arise—and these opportunities occur more often than you think.
tldr; it's not just how much wealth you have, it's also about when you have it, and sooner is sometimes better than later.
Adam Sullivan
so this begs the question: how long into my mortgage/insurance policy do i wait until i burn the motherfucker to the ground to maximize insurance profit? like, wait at least a week or longer?
Cooper Scott
You can save money by using credit cards if you trust yourself to pay them off
Cards will typically offer cash back cards at 1-5% (depending on whatever deal they have) and these cards will also be low fee or $0
If you use them and pay off the cards immediately you pay no interest and at the end of the year you get some money
Juan Watson
This. Frequently taking on or keeping debt is actually superior to having no debt, for example, taking a mortgage instead of paying cash for a house because you want to invest that cash in something (basically any investment including a bank account, usually) with a higher yield than the interest on the mortgage. In other words the game isn't being debt free, but having assets greater than liabilities.
Evan Gomez
it's true, people see their bills go down after payment and don't notice that insurance is no longer taking a cut. A family of mine had this happen and was without insurance for over a year. And there is also this bullshit policy they have that if your home is uninsured for longer than 30 days then they will treat you like the plague and not cover your home/ and or drop coverage after realizing.
John Martin
the fact that nothing in this post is factually incorrect means our entire society deserves bullets and fire.
Levi Miller
My parents were cool in that they fell for the credit card meme when they were younger but around 2000 when they realized "holy shit we exist in a perpetual state of owing about 25k" they started working to get rid of the cards for good. Few years later and they were completely free of them.
Debit cards are the true redpill, never spend money you don't actually have.
Andrew Garcia
i don't do insurance fraud
Cooper Hernandez
Good on you, OP.
That being said, I have no debt and still have a credit score of 740.
So i’m Jewing while anti-jewing the Jew just because the Jew jewed me for a little bit.
Still have property taxes but there’s Ag exemptions for that.
Luis Lewis
Me 2 OP.
I have a 40,000$ HSV sitting in the garage that i payed cash for. Iv never had a credit card I got into shit loads of debt at 18, it ruined my life and made me depressed. Once i payed it off i never got a single thing on debt again. Not a loan a high purchase or even a lay buy. If i want something i save until i have enough to buy it.
I dont waste my money on travel or partying anymore and i like to have savings in the bank for a rainy day.
Doing everything above has meant i dont have to work full time. Hell i could NEET life for years and not have to worry about a thing. Meanwhile everyone around me is in so much debt, they live pay check to pay check.
Levi James
Money is debt owed to YOU, you dumbass commie. That is clearly not what OP is talking about.
Jaxson Walker
Well the terminology is incorrect for starts
Creditors own debt Debtors owe debt
Daniel Ortiz
>committing arson a week after taking out an insurance policy >you will never have balls this big
Why live?
Jace Phillips
Lol @ afraid of debt. Ive filed bankrupcy twice the credit jews still give me cards because they need to write off some loses by april 15. You dumbfucks. LITERALLY DONT PAY IT BACK ITS NOT AGAINST THE LAW.
You can link a prepaid cc to a paypal account in any name you wish and biy things in most places that wont allow prepaid cards. Also a good way to frame someone for buying illicit goods lol
This is what they don't want people to realise. Once you are debt free, and very comfortable, your mind is at ease and nobody owns you anymore. Rich people are not usually very happy. They will try to tell you they are, but if you get close and see inside their life it's neurotic turmoil.
Dylan Brooks
Hey, fuck them. I'm debt-free and on my way to saving for a down payment on a house. 20% on a house and $400.00 monthly payments is a breeze. I own a small arsenal, a library, and I have a decent vidya rig.
Lord willing, I can get my own house by the time I'm 30.
Jonathan Garcia
You fucked everything up by living on credit. Fuck credit and fuck debt.
Nathaniel Long
Yep, not all debt is bad debt. >$130,000 mortgage @ 3% interest >Rent it out for $950/month >Call it $750 after fees and taxes and upkeep >$750 x 12 = $9000 >Earning almost 7% interest to yourself on a 3% interest loan to the bank >Not counting the value of the condo going up Debt is good when you can get loans for something that brings you more money than the interest on the loan costs.
But obviously car loans and credit card debt is just pissing money away for nothing.
>tfw the only way to save money nowadays is to be a porn addict
Colton Perry
Normies want to "live the high life". That's why they end up as debt slaves by 30.
I still spend and order a bunch of shit from Amazon each month but still have like 2k in savings. Currently thinking about slowly buying property in the countryside in my homeland to set up a "private nature reserve" so I can go in a woods and say screw you to taxes.
Hudson Scott
No more than what your flag means in this day and age. The U.S flag used to mean, freedom, democracy and independence. Now it means a cash grab by migrants. A feminist techno-state and a Zionist militant nation.
Jayden Ward
Misery loves company. People are upset they did not make smart decisions like you, so they simply put you down to make themselves feel better. Just so you know, these people who put you down actually envy you
Christian Rivera
I purchased my own insurance the entire time I had a mortgage it's only 31.84 a month currently. if the mortgage co is providing it for you that is a red flag that they are worried they will get screwed if the place burns down and it is likely overpriced and you are also likely paying more for the house that it is worth. a lot of real estate is a huge scam.
Christopher Garcia
Look for credit unions in your are instaed of a bank
Ryder Johnson
What are you doing goy? You can get even nicer things with credit.
Ive been stashing crash and destroying my credit for 10 years. No shit. 2 bankruptcies, they still give me cards with 1,000 limits. Ill naver pay it back, i’ll simply file for bankruptcy over and over.
Jayden Williams
>but sometimes opportunities to invest liquid wealth arise Which is why I spend excess "cash" on silver and gold coins.
Ethan Bailey
>But obviously car loans and credit card debt is just pissing money away for nothing. Not necessarily. You might not be directly having those purchases pay for the debt, but that money still might be more productive for you somewhere else.
Ethan Moore
Dont you ever fucking think for a goddamned minute that what you're doing (if you arent bullshitting) is not worth it. That is the dream of the new culture. You are apart of the new culture
Nicholas Davis
Normies are fucking retards who care what others think/ what kikes tell them to believe I am happy for you user, go on and enjoy living my dream fren Make sure to red pill them children you cunt Name one of your sons after me, Alex
Liam Rogers
You should still keep credit cards and just pay them off in full before any interest ever accrues. This way you don't get into debt but you still have access to the credit line if an emergency comes up and your (((credit score))) goes up so you can get better loans in case you ever choose to start a business or buy real estate. Also cash back is literally free money and credit cards come with other perks like no fraud liability and easy chargebacks.
Kayden Garcia
Dave Ramsey plan, desu
Nathaniel Fisher
just walk up to the insurance company and yell FUCK YOU PAY ME
Matthew Nguyen
the homes were pre collapse relics. so what you say makes sense
Josiah Flores
Having just a couple months of cash is asking to get buttfucked. Losing a little bit of money to inflation is the price you pay for not having your gold or cash stolen, your debt based business failing, or other possibilities. If you can get a high interest savings account or term deposit that matches inflation rate or close to it then you won't lose money. You should also be working to increase your pool of funds, and the slight loss to inflation won't be too noticeable. I agree it is annoying though. Also, I know a guy who has 200k of gold and silver stolen from his house so there's that. You can put it in the bank but then you pay for the storage of it too. Or keep it at home and you pay for the safe and it's still a risk. Whatever you do, there are either losses, or gambles. That's life. I was sitting on a nice chunk of cash and getting sick of it feeling like deteriorating so I bought a reliable low yield business just to hopefully stop bleeding. I don't want to be rich, I just want to own something other than cash which does feel like it is at the whim if inflation. All this being said, I think cash will be king again in the next recession, so I've kept a reasonable amount of that too. And kept my job, because you would be silly to give up stable high paying work.
Luke Wilson
>I rent this would be a reason to borrow money to put down on a house. you will end up having to pay interest on the mortgage, but it will be going toward something that you own rather than you pissing it away on rent.
you should also have a credit card and buy things on it, and repay it every month to build credit and credit card points. the reality is prices already reflect the finance fees charged by credit card companies so by not using credit cards and collecting points you are losing out - unless ofc you go to places that have cash discounts.