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Redpill me on this
Adrian Gray
Michael Bailey
How else can we stop climate change before we make earth uninhabitable?
Luke Bennett
>the government gets it
wrong.
niggers on welfare get it. nothing wrong with social programs etc. as long as it is within your own Volk
Landon Rivera
I ride a bicycle
Tyler Perry
>Nothing wrong with social systems
Wrong. Charity provided by churches to their local populations is the only acceptable form of social welfare, all else is immoral theft and tyranny
Wyatt Sanchez
Taxes and money confuse the issue. In some ways that fuel tax should basically just be a use tax - you pay the tax to pay for the roads.
Unfortunately in America - and increasingly Europe - we have to hide all the ways we subsidize the third world, or else people would revolt. (Too late for France). This is our focus, not on the tax rate etc.
Levi Nguyen
pretty sure he just added the entire fuel cost to the government for some reason instead of the tax part
Brody Long
What's it like living in a country where socialism works?
Elijah Watson
yeah, what you mean by "local community" is probably about the size of my country, so we don't disagree too much
but:
I have an interst in the other side of my country to have functioning streets aswell as I do, so we can trade etc.
Easton Rivera
it was great until the late 90s when all the migrants after the """"Yugoslavian-war"""" came over.. increased crime rates by a lot and drained our welfare programs pretty hard.
slavs are the niggers of Europe, I swear
John Cox
>2018 almost 2018+1
>Still using Facebook
These dumbass cancerous "share this" retarded posts are partly why I deleted my account. If you're only keeping 20% of the money you earned, even as a self-employed individual, you have a serious fucking spending problem.
t. single male with no kids/no disabilities that's self-employed.
I don't know what fucked state you live in but I sure as hell don't pay $33 out of every $100 I make. Also, you're doing something incredibly wrong if you're not maxing the fuck out of your deductibles.
Noah Flores
it works because their country isnt filled with leeches. an ethnic high trust society could very well use social services.
source: national socialist germany
Carter Kelly
Taxation even with representation is theft. The taxes I pay do not represent my views on how they should be spent
Jaxson Adams
That's called the "Government Spending Ratio".
For example, France is at 56.6 percent of GDP going through the hands of the government at one point in time. Makes you wonder why the yellow vests are so pissed off, hmm?
data.oecd.org
Connor Mitchell
Haha. Every single country must be infected. Fuck this shit. I want no part of this anymore.
Colton Wilson
All that jew gold cant last forever
Connor Diaz
The gas taxes in some states(California) are absolutely kiked. I pay $1-$2 more per gallon than the other states
Easton Thompson
>Muh roads
Oye very good citizen, dees here taxes pay for the roads! Just agree to pass this bill, a 10% increase in road funding, but we also have to include a 90% increase in welfare funding. That's a small price to pay for the roads, right goyizen?
Samuel Phillips
20% of my paycheck is gone each week.
Logan Bennett
You don't understand, they get it all from you in the end, every penny, plus interest.
And when the butcher slits a pig's throat, the bankers laugh at him, because he hasn't figured out how to monetize the dying squeal.
Charles Barnes
No because then it would be the whole $100
John Hernandez
Where do you work?
Easton Peterson
Taxing for the roads became so retarded that some of them are becoming privatized
Tyler Cruz
And wait until you start talking about "Forced Purchase" "Healthcare Gambling Tickets"
Ian Hughes
whatever let's you (not) sleep at night
it worked pretty well over here until the leeches from foreign countries came in
Juan Flores
if all you ever bought was fuel this person would have a point
most people also buy other goods and services which have varying rates of tax applied
Xavier Allen
About 17% for me
Jordan Wood
Dude... That's literally the pill. You're getting fucked.
Luis Watson
it wouldn't be too complicated to have a little purge over here though
Juan Perry
Yeah but he’s a trucker in France
Jeremiah Reyes
>33% income earned tax
And Jow Forums cries at me for being a neet
Jaxson Harris
why did you take a photograph of the screen?
are you underage?
Alexander Myers
Can I come in
I swear I won't leech
Caleb Adams
Once you learn where most of your money goes you'll change tune.
Joseph Hill
all Yugos so far were Niggers....
so: no, take your granpa back while we're at it
just have a little chimp out with your neighbouring countries without fucking over the civilized world while acting like an ape
Xavier Lee
if you earned 100 you'd pay 0 in income tax because you're below the minimum
Isaac Cook
If the total value of your product was higher you'd make it yourself. The guy who sells the cut deli meats to customers didn't make all that money. It also goes to the butchers, the delivery trucks, the electricity bills, the machine repairmen, the janitors, the shelf stockers. Plenty of jobs don't interact with customers or money but they still need to be paid.
Zachary Cook
know your worth fags
Dominic Hernandez
Fuck you, im comming with my scooter
Justin Anderson
>he thinks those who are employed are actually humans and not just expendable NPCs
absolute unit
Dominic Powell
come at me, nigger of Europe. I'll stand there with my Hellebarde
Kayden Collins
Who the fuck buys 67 dollars worth of fuel when they only made 100?
Ian Wilson
i mean, i know what youre saying, but its still insanely disproportionate. if it wasnt, people on the top wouldnt continue to grow in the absolute amount of wealth the world contains. after all, there is a finite amount.
Isaac Evans
I don't pay income tax so fuck it.
Nolan Gutierrez
>muh labor theory of value
Gabriel Ward
Boi u r dum
Evan Edwards
A junkie hooked on fuel
Brandon Hughes
Vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Juan Ward
gotta pay that 10 million a day to israhell goys!
Jaxon Brown
Surplus value extraction is taking the total value of a job and usurping it as your own even though you had no part in the creation, transportation, administration/selling of that product.
Literally says: total value YOU produce.
Which means the truck driver, meat cutter, and the deli worker are all creating their own value independently of one another but in cooperation with one another. For one to have value, so must another.
But why should someone with no hand in the creation, transportation, administration, etc of a product be eligible to profit off of it?
Tl;dr: capitalism is theft
Jason Clark
if you make a hundred a week... lol
you get about $1 taken if that.
at the end of the year you've made so little you get 90% of the taxed income back plus gov handout for being a poor piece of shit.
Isaiah Edwards
Lol, California and other states are looking to tax vehicles by miles traveled in their states by tracking vehicle GPS in order to combat lost taxes from fuel purchases as electric and hybrid vehicles become more common and bicycles are being considered too.
Brody Allen
This post is a shitpost.
The highest inckme tax is 13% in California
What's the objective of this hoax? What type of shit you trying to start? Bring it
Dylan Walker
Labor theory of value is the basis of most economic systems, sans the globalist economic structure we have today. Adam Smith, the "father of capitalism" used it to rationalize capitalism and expand upon it. Go back to school nigger
Kayden Martinez
Why get a job when all your taxes go to gibs programs? Better that I get the gibs and drain these fuckers. Eventually they will learn that free money don't make money.
If we ever get rid of the welfare state I might actually use my worthless degree to get a warehouse job or something.
Until then just kick back your chair and watch the fireworks.
William Lewis
aaaaaaaaaaah PREPARE THE CANONS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
John Jackson
OH for fuck sake you nigger
If I start a company, I take all the risks of it failing and I get the benefits of its success
If the workers don't like it they can fuck off and start their own shit
Carson Stewart
This
Eli Wright
Maybe meme flag fag is dog fucking Canadian or a shit Euro
Anthony Cruz
>is the basis of most economic systems, sans the globalist economic structure we have today
But that's wrong. Subjective value is the current paradigm and has been for a very long time.
Josiah Roberts
such a kike page
Justin Evans
You have to have a job to get welfare you know.
Josiah Collins
56.6% of the GDP includes corporations and other entities who aren't drained by the gov't. It takes about 50 to 80% of what the lower to upper middle classes earn (depending on the country).
Austin Cook
LMAO imagine being a like since your inception, hoarding valuables for your future generations and then have a bunch of Slavs coming in and draining all that in like 20+ years. You invited the wolf in the sheep herd. Your fault.
>Inb4 muttmerica made me do it
Eli Price
OH for fuck sake you nigger
If we start a social program, we take all the risks of it failing and we get the benefits of its success
If the citizens don't like it they can fuck off and move to another country.
The social contract of civil laws and government action are not agreed upon with consent because when you are born into the nation/move to it you conform to the nature of it. When you are born into an economic system you conform to the nature of it, because there is no alternative.
What happens when you dont participate in the economic structure? You either starve and die or live a reclusive life devoid of any decency. What happens when you dont participate in civil law and societal expectations? Jail and/or ostracization.
What Im trying to say is that you dont consent to either, so workers have no choice other than to surrender their labor both to someone who does not contribute to the production of it and to a governmental system that does not have their backs.
I dont think it's too radical to say that people should own the full value of their labor and that we shouldnt reward anyone who is capable of work and chooses not to/earns pay sedenterily under capitalism.
Carter Jackson
Wrong bucko
You have to have a job or prove why you cannot get a job. A quick trip to a psychologist and a few sad/angry words are all it takes to get a pass.
Been 'battling' severe depression and anti social behavior for years. Feel bad for me.
James White
If its that easy why doesn't the entire citizenry do it.
Parker Allen
>adam smith used the labor theory of value
Read a book.
Ian Myers
>Inb4 muttmerica made me do it
nope, that was all on boomers enjoying cheap workforce for their little businesses
James Rodriguez
Idk they are fine upstanding citizens? Or maybe they just don't have the stomach to manipulate the degenerate system. I did have to spend a month in a psych ward but after that it was gravy.
Jaxson Williams
This.
White majority society have a better shot with it. As soon as shitskins start getting involved it goes down hill fast.
Josiah Lee
>subjective value
What? Labor theory of value can account for that as well. Again, the basis of modern capitalism was built on this and market mechanisms were born from this idea. Going against subjectivity in the modern context of the time was made popular by Marx since he saw how the total quality never increased or decreased in subjective conditions, allowing for subpar products to fetch a higher socially agreeale (market) price despite having no real valuable or change of quality made.
Modern markets rely on credit, deficits, and other forms of abstract value. See all the global stock and housing crashes as a result of unsteady, unrealistic value being created and changed with no real life implimentations accompanying them. The central crisis of capitalism, one of them anyway, is this cycle of boom and bust, that the average people never feel the impact of these markets unless they do very poorly and they make up for abstract value with tangible value, affecting people's lives and general governance. Crashes happen nearly every decade now, and I suppose capitalism can keep standing for a bit longer if we just keep passing around value and deficits that have no real bearing until they bust.
Brody Evans
Well it's because it's not easy to get on welfare you idiot.
Mason Hill
that's a great picture, user
Isaac Williams
Ok well tattle on Juan to the IRS and get him audited
Carson Parker
>The labor theory of value (LTV) was an early attempt by economists to explain why goods were exchanged for certain relative prices on the market. It suggested that the value of a commodity could be measured objectively by the average number of labor hours necessary to produce it. The best-known advocates of the labor theory were Adam Smith, David Ricardo and Karl Marx.
www.investopedia.com/terms/l/labor-theory-of-value.asp
Much better source: britannica.com
Anyway, go back to school
Ethan Brooks
>he spends his entire after tax income on fuel
Abo detected
Juan Robinson
Wouldn't surprise me if they outlaw private tirepumps, make you got a special shop to repump the tires and tax you on the air.
Levi Edwards
>not easy
Says the guy most likely not on welfare/'disability'
Trust me if you are moderately intelligent and willing to submit you paper work 3-4 time it isn't that hard. A referral from a doctor and persistence is about all you need.
Isaac Walker
Thanks, I can’t take credit for it however. I steal my memes like most faggots on this board. That one broke it down issues very well.
Elijah Smith
imagine not being american
the horror
Colton Gutierrez
Tattle kek you mean report him to fucking ICE
Christopher Wood
The value that you are producing is precisely the value that your boss is willing to pay you.
Kayden Diaz
Blame democrats they keep demanding taxes on everything and free shit.
Bentley Lee
this its not the governments job to pay every lazy useless shit bag to stay alive.
Ayden White
>I dont pay taxes the post.
Federal tax is 20% +
Most states take another 10% in one form or another.State + federal is about 30% for me.
Grayson Murphy
Misrepresentative calculation, You do not buy $67 worth of fuel for every $100 you earn
Aaron Nelson
>fucking tax on bicycle mileage
jesus CA needs to be nuked. might as well make all Cali men wear chastity belts and when they are allowed to cum once a month, tax it
Cameron Clark
I just made $10000 but I just bought 500 black dildos. Having to pay OPs faggot tax means I had to suck 20 extra cocks just to make this post
Elijah Green
>what is federal tax
How is everyone on this board so fucking retarded? All underage?
Ian Gray
Tax cars relative to the distance they drive, and the damage they do to the road is the most logical way. Or would you rather pay for commercial drivers damage to the road?
Christopher Reyes
Not at all. The role of surplus value extraction under capitalism is to surrender all value and assets to a managerial clique. That's in the best case as well, as capitalists tend to not at all have a hand in the daily runnings of the enterprise, and instead employ a fleet of workers to do it for them (who he then usurps their value, calls it his, and then feeds them crumbs of their own work back to them).
Small business owners and those who manage and work daily towards the runnings and maintenance of the workplace are no doubt deserving to be paid, but what gives them the right to usurp the value someone else made, and give them a small sliver of it back?
Culture stems from the productive forces, and if your economy is based off of parasitic, lazy and people doing the bare minimum to obtain the means to live then surely the cultural apparatus of that country would be parasitic, lazy, and lack luster.
If we had a system that paid people in proportion to the quantity, quality, and expediency of their labor, then we will have an industrious, productive, and prideful nation.
Ayden Powell
Yeah if you are lucky enough to make 100k a year. The french government tried to push a 90% tax on the rich. So you make 100k after tax you keep 10k, so you are taxed into poverty. Now that you are in poverty, the next group gets taxed 90% and on and on until everyone is in poverty.
Xavier Richardson
NO one pays 33% on warning $100.
Sure, if you earned $37,101 you pay 32.5% on the 100 over the threshold, but you only pay 10% on 37,001
ato.gov.au
Lincoln James
Not in commiefornia
Cooper Ward
Trips of truth
Henry Watson
This but unironically
Adrian Green
Fuck the Fed
Justin Ortiz
>at least the gibs go to huwhites!
Spoken like a true NEET hypocrite
Xavier Murphy
Kill yourself brainlet.
Idea is never bad. Taking idea to extreme is bad. If you cant understand so simple thing, just remoce yourself.