I thought there are ways to stabilize currency? I'm a bit familiar with how you can just "freeze" it at a certain number. The French government obviously does that, as falling currency adds up to bad headlines.
Jose Green
Good luck Germany is heading to recession with massive pension deficit and benfits deficit.
Future is bright. Haha
Oliver Russell
But you want cheap pound so you can actually export shit. Euro going down is only good for big exporters like Finland and Germany.
Juan Adams
Nice union you've got there Angela. Would be a real shame if it were to be crashed with no survivors
Nope in reality there draining the benfits dry which adds to pensions deficit.
Jackson Turner
Bitcoin is a meme, not a currency.
Jaxon Cruz
lmfao
Jack Smith
why is luxembourg receiving so many gibs, i thought they are a rich tiny country are they the secret EU massas?
Carter Ramirez
>France burns for a fortnight and 3/4 of the countries that use it are bankrupt - Euro drops by 1%
>Mention we're leaving the union with said bankrupt countries and planning to trade with the entire world instead, Pound's arse falls out completely.
Fuck globalism.
Jackson Adams
If the EU crashes how badly is shit going to hit the fan. I give it an 8 out of 10 on the happening scale.
Justin Bailey
rich because of GDP per capita, the thing is it is an undue method of measuring wealth, the famer and worker is not rich because the big banks' saldos have been added to the GDP figure and then broken down to everyone.
Logan Foster
t. Salty nocoiner
Gavin Flores
Were going 10/10 its the start of a new era built from the ruins.
Jack Murphy
ive got by piggy bank near me i will ride it to the moon
Carter Parker
Several big EU agencys are housed in Lux, so they get a lot of money from them
Euro nations which are on the brink of economic collapse: >Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal Nations which require a bit of a push: >France, Ireland Nations which are "healthy": >Germanistan, Netherlands, Belgium etc. If the next recession is half as bad as 2008 it's going to a meltdown. Expect new currencies.
Jaxon Jones
Is that a case of deliberately submerging a sinking ship?
Kevin Turner
Most people in Luxemburg are the peasant class you never hear about when watching the kings speak.
Ryder Hernandez
>Transfer you money to pounds before to late [rubs hands intently]
Jason Gomez
If we don't export we're dead. Our economy depends on exports selling.
>/even-all-its-refugees-cant-help-prevent-germanys-longterm-population-decline That's quite insane. Either Germany ceases to exist so the economy can survive or the economy crashes and Germany wont survive. Man they really dropped the ball on Demographics. Too busy milikng everyone for labor and encouraging work over family.
Ryan Murphy
Idiot, devaluing currency means it will be easier to sell EU stuffs around the globe. It's a good thing.
Still, the EU will soon collapse due to Deutsche Bank
Oliver Campbell
Looks like trouble. The euro zone was a mistake.
Jason Rodriguez
Most of these look awful, what the fuck Netherlands
Landon Jackson
Yes amazing if you own a factory with 800 workers. But I guess that ain't any of us in here.
Sebastian Murphy
t. Keynes
Bentley Mitchell
They were physically bigger than euro bills, and far, far more colourful. The red is actual red, not this gay faded tranny-flag red.
Andrew Mitchell
>bigger than euro bills That's a big currency
Joshua Green
Because the USD is the world reserve currency, the fed becomes the defacto world bank. When he fed starts tightening the supply of USD that every bank in the world keepa in reserves to perform international transactions, it will potentially slow down the global economy along with the US, but since the global economy is worse than the uS the slow down will be dramatically worse than the US
Ayden Fisher
but it makes the import of goods and raw materials more expensive. And the Deutsche Bank will be bailed out with tax money as usually.
Joseph Hernandez
Yeah no shit.
Whenever someone says "devalueing is good for X" you know they're a monetary crank.
Think about what fucking with the money supply does for the economy. All it can do is redistribute goods from one party to the other in some underhanded way. Devalueing is just a sneaky way to transfer wealth from the people to the elite.
Jack Smith
Depends on whether you want to import more or export more. If you want to import more external currency, have a weaker currency and you get more expenditure coming in because it's easy for foreigners. This is what it's like to visit 3rd world countries as an American where you can buy stuff for pennies.
If you want to import more, then you want a strong currency so you can buy up other peoples' shit for easy.
Carter Cox
D'accord
how good is your German?
yeah - but: Germany had a strong currency, the Deutsche Mark, still it was one of the biggest exporters.
Samuel Johnson
I think you already explained how that makes it easier to import the raw materials so you can turn around and sell value-added production. The real question is why you haven't been using this industrial advantage to fix DB instead of just letting it run wild.
I thought Germans were disciplined and good at things.
30 million Germans will be retired in less 10 years.
Then you got all the people on benfits or disabled on top not working.
It's probably gone be over 35 million people taken out system not working.
Best business to be in Germany future is grave digger
Anthony Sullivan
You export infinite rehypothecation for the financial industry through the City of London Corporation.
Cooper Thompson
>depends on wether you want to import more or export more imports = exports. This whole import vs export stuff is crank theory. Whenever you import you also export and whenever you export you also import. In an economy with commodity money this is more clear. Whenever I import I export the commodity and vice versa. With currency this becomes more opaque but it is still true. I buy a pair of shoes from the US with euros, those euros must be spent in the EU. I buy a pair of shoes in the US, I spend dollars which I bought with euros. imports = exports.
Not bad but not great.
Grayson Ward
A currency can be used to buy products at your local grocery store. BTC cannot. A resource like gold can be used to manufacture goods in a factory. BTC cannot.
Good luck with your virtual boxes of worthless data!
yeah, I just wanted to mention the Italians should not fear a strong currency - they still could be good exporters.
>I thought Germans were disciplined and good at things. That is one of the biggest tales existing. Everything is a patchwork of organized chaos and improvisation overhere.
Ethan Carter
Europoors be 4ever poor.
Carter Long
No, it's not really a crank theory at all. What you said is so vacuous. Do you know what the word "arbitrage" means? Why are you invoking "commodity money?" They so-called money is already commoditized 100 ways to Sunday.
They point is not to figure out how to stick two lego blocks together. They point is how the difference in the value of two currencies affects the balance of trade. One way you get sucked dry, the other way you suck somebody else dry.
Luke Ross
They should fear a strong currency if they don't have any and can't earn any.
Jordan Walker
The value of gold does not come from its uses in industry, although they do exist. The value of gold comes from its use as a globally recognized store of value. There is nothing stopping bitcoin from taking that place. In fact, any characteristic that gold has that makes it a good money, bitcoin also has. The only benefit that gold has to bitcoin is that it is analog, which is useful in the very specific case of a global loss of power. Barring that scenario bitcoin is superior. Much safer, much more portable, much more easily transferrable.
Caleb Gray
>Btc cannot wrong.There are multiple prepaid debit cards to pay in whatever store. Bitpay card and monaco are two of many. Never had an issue with them paying anywhere you can pay with any other debit or credit card
Michael Ross
Market cap matters. If buttcoin is a small market (and of course mostly manned by dupes) then it's easy to take a more powerful market, probably backed by international coalitions of power and the law, and run it all up and down.
I'm not anti coin, but you're retarded and drawing unsubstantiated parallels.
Easton Jones
you see - that's why they should both create and earn good money.
Zachary Anderson
I'd trade goods/services for a dank meme over $5 anyday
LETS GO EUROANONS DESTROY ALL INFRASTRUCTURE DO WHAT AMERIFATS ARE TOO LAZY TO DO GO CRAZY
Juan Evans
the euro is a German meme
Easton Stewart
>Make this Saturday the end of Eu of Macron >Save use all france looks bleak micron done them goofed with his 100€, plus the terrorist and YJ went full potato with the last "official" revendications eg, less taxes, but only on water, food, natural gas, electricity, gas, but without touching to the cohort of gibs and shittiest tier state "services" (yeah, it's gonna change much in a country with 70% fiscal pressure) plus creation of a civic parliament (yeah, we kinda have that already, numbnuts, and it's already complete shit) plus making referendums not consultative but decisive (not idiotic in itself, but we pretty much never have referendums anyway) and cutting on representatives advantages (not idiotic either, but a drop in an ocean of piss) seeing that, YJ will prbly more or less slowly rot and vanish sad, but high energy is nothing, with very low IQ
>Only benefit is gold is analog Bitcoin could be overtaken by another coin, gold can be transacted for instantly without government scrutiny
Camden James
Germany is taking over the european mainland with the euro. It's over for entire europe. Slowly but surely this monster ctulhu currency will swallow everything from the russia to the atlantic
Michael Cook
Well, just import more doctors, lawyers, and engineers, and then maybe Germany and Greece will come to an equal level of productivity where it makes sense to share a currency. That's good engineering.
Carter Cox
"Free fall" No. It was lower after the vote than it is now. It's also been back up to 1.31USD as recent as 6 months ago, stop talking shit.
Jackson Lopez
Why is Germany trying to recreate Weimar in all of Europe?
Benjamin Myers
It is crank theory. You are focussing on the effects of trade and trying to influence those to influence trade. If I (as a country) EXPORT more, then by direct result I IMPORT foreign currency. Demand for my currency goes up as buyers need my money to buy, or because I sell their foreign currency for my own currency. This causes relative devaluation of foreign currencies to my currency. My currency becomes worth MORE. Naturally this leads to some equilibrium where a further increase in exports cannot happen.
The monetary crank sees this and says "If only my currency stayed (((stable))). Then I could keep exporting". He devalues the currency by printing a fuckton and buying foreign currency, increasing demand for it and lowering the value of his own currency by swamping the market with it. Effectively giving away his currency to the world. The world then buys using this currency and exporting continues. The crank pats himself on the back for his genius.
Who benefits? The state: it buys foreign currency with which it can import. The exporter, his business continues beyond the market equilibrium.
Who loses? The people: their curency loses value. Their savings become more worthless. The products on the market become more expensive. Their purchasing power goes down.
Get your hands off my money you filthy (((crank)))
Jace Long
partly true, it clearly is a continuation of the German Mitteleuropa project, but having a common currency is rather a French idea.
John Edwards
Luxembourg is the tax dodging state of the EU.
I know this because my gf's dad is rich as fuck and he spent most of his life doing this.