Fed up of all these girls ignoring me.
I’m not even after supermodels, but even average, semi-attractive aren’t interested.
It seems unless you’re a badboy or got shitloads of cash you’re screwed.
Fed up of all these girls ignoring me.
I’m not even after supermodels, but even average, semi-attractive aren’t interested.
It seems unless you’re a badboy or got shitloads of cash you’re screwed.
Listen to that little voice inside your head.
No but it does take effort
Do you put yourself out there? Do you have hobbies, a job, a circle of friends? Sitting around waiting for women to come to you doesn't work, even for the highly successful
Maybe you come off as too desperate
Youre probably ugly
>badboy
What's a badboy exactly?
whatever you say supreme gentleman
I sympathize with Jow Forums on most things.
Woman hating however, I can never really get into.
I’m not a onions boy feminist or anything but I have never felt any anger at women.
In my pre- puberty age they were really nice to me and once I became a teenager they gave me sex.
I think they are great
Your problem is assuming women throw themselves at people. Only sluts do that.
Have you thought about socialize a little, getting a friend circle, going out for some drinks, anything to make an effort to be around women and be interesting?
Just don’t look/act/be like an incel and you’ll probably see a change
Usually an arrogant schmuck who treats women like shit but keeps them begging for more.
a boy who is bad
Been there, done that. You can socialise all you want, if you ain’t got it you ain’t got it. If women don’t want badboys, they want eccentric, larger than life types. That isn’t me.
Well congratulations on being born tall and good looking.
This is priceless.
Come back in a year or two. Tell me the fruits of your endeavor.
If you hate us then you have a right to. The same as many women hate men
I lost my virginity with a boy my height (170cm/5'7") you don't need to be 6'7" to find someone to want you.
Difference being women who hate men are allowed and even encouraged to express their hatred openly and typically be met with cheers from mainstream society for their "bravery".
They also always still have boyfriends and all the sexual partners they want.
No they're not. Women who hate men are generally disliked by normal women. I don't think I've ever known a man hating woman be congratulated for hating men, other than by other man hating women. These are the women you wouldn't want to date regardless.
Good. OP let's start with this one. Grab the noose I'll hold her tight.
Idk I always talk shit about women that "hate men" for some random and stupid stuff. Also usually these are so ugly and unlikeable only men with extremely weird fetishes go near them
Come and get me, ain't afraid of dying
Im the gay you are replying to
I’m tall but I’m not sure if I’m attractive or not
>Your problem is assuming women throw themselves at people
I’m not a Chad or whatever, but I’ve had girls throwing on me
I know so many nice girls who just date one jerk after another. I just wish women would be honest instead of giving us crap about wanting a genuine, caring partner. Actions speak louder than words.
*guy lol
You type like a moron it being anything but your physical appearance women throw themselves at.
I’m not a “Chad”. It’s just not that hard to get laid. Just go to a party and chat them up.
>posting elliot roger
Well OP if you do go on some sort of spree I hope you have the decency to kill yourself at the end
>women dont need a job
>women dont need friends
>women can sit around all day until men come to them
>>women can sit around all day until men come to them
Most men can sit around and get women. Wake up dude
I swear I’m nowhere as attractive as that dude. I’m 6’1” not 6’3”
I’m just a regular guy. Having sex doesn’t take much effort. Just have don’t eat crap, work out and be social. You’ll have sex handed to you
Yeah but you have to be twice as hot as the average woman who does.
>that's what men believe
No they fucking can't. The only times a woman even MIGHT approach a man and ask him out while he just sits there is if he's exceptionally attractive. And odds are such a guy doesn't even need women to do that anyways.
Most men will never be asked out by a woman. Ever in their entire life. If they just sit around they'll never get anything. Unlike a nywoman who very much will receive multiple offers from men simply by sitting in public.
You'd be singing a different song if you were 5'7. Try to deny the fact that your success is due to things out of your control all you want, it won't make it true.
Not like you have to care anyways though.
I've only gotten my girlfriends by them asking me out and i haven't been out of a relationship since i was 16. I'm good looking but I'm short. I'm also charming. Learn to be genuinely charming. The asshole guys got their girl by successfully manipulating them into a relationship. They stay because chemicals hormones and pair bonding. Women are often more agreeable so they'll take more shit on average. Not to say they aren't innocent but you can't be failed socially and be upset when you can't manipulate girls into being in a relationship with you. Also I'm not intending this post to be directed at you just any one it applies to.
>woman even MIGHT approach a man and ask him out while he just sits there is if he's exceptionally attractive
No, that’s just you.
I have friends that are short have fuck bitches
I think you are all too brainwashed to see reality.
to everyone else reading; it’s not hard to get sex and a gf. Just don’t eat like a pig, work out and go out.
You’ll have women clawing for you
Same here, my parents aren't divorced, so even when I tried to get into misogyny I just couldn't because of my mommy. There was no foundation for misogyny to grow on.
I genuinely gave woman hating my best shot, but it's not for me, I don't have enough negative experiences related to women.
Sounds like the guys around you and perhaps yourself have no standards. Why do you give so much of a fuck what other people do anyways? What's stopping you from keeping your standards high and working on yourself to be the best version possible?
Men are to blame for this current dating structure. Maybe you should redirect your hatred, or even better, stop whining
Try being rejected constantly and having invisible guy syndrome. Then you might feel differently.
>Just don’t eat like a pig, work out and go out.
*and be 6'1, or taller*
Wow great advice.
My boyfriend is 5'7" and he had a girlfriend before me as well. There are many girls hitting on him too. From other countries and from his country.
My boyfriend is 5'7", doesn't work out, doesn't really go out much, and is thin, and he still gets many girls asking him if they can send him nudes or telling him they wish he didn't have a girlfriend. He got one stalker as well.
As a non-badboy who is broke as fuck, your logic is shit.
More and more people feel lonely, you're not that unique, my dude. It's a cultural problem. So-called "normal people" kill themselves all the time for example.
In support of this, my boyfriend is 6ft4, pretty built, really handsome and doesn't get any of this from women. It's mostly because he has zero online presence (I'm assuming your bf does) and hates people.
I think it's all about confidence and how you come across.
Yeah. Racism and especially antisemitism and islamophobia is relatable.
Tumblr feminism is retarded but straight up Misogyny is completely alien to me.
My boyfriend has quite a normal one, doesn't comment that much and doesn't share stuff at all. But it's still more than not having any presence, especially that he is visible on his profile picture.
Btw congratulations on being in relationship with someone you love!
It sounds like you two have a fab relationship too, and it's really nice that you're helping to reassure the less tall anons on here. I love the fact that there are some nice women on here.
I kinda do as well OP. Having my value tied to a job/status is infuriating.
>why do i care what other people do
Because it affects the dating market. I hate men with no standards and the women who enable them
So what am I supposed to do? How do you accept that you'll be forever alone?
Be interesting, be confident.
>friends with no personality or looks or job are dating 10/10s
How does this work?
What makes someone interesting? What makes someone confident?
Honestly, I hope that one day men will realise that most of the women don't care about height as much as their insecurities or other men tell them
Gosh I want a guy like you to kidnap me and rape me repeatedly, that would be nice
Is it technically rape if you want it?
It's not like the law cares, they don't ask rape victims if they wanted to be raped and if they do the "victim" can just say "no".
I honestly never cared about the height shit because im not short. What infuriates me is how high women sell themselves. They have the luxury of being picky, exclusive and non-monogamous regardless of what traits they like. Women love to preach egalitarian drivel, but when you mention how discriminatory they are in dating, they just laugh it off. Complete lack of self-awareness.
Well if that actually happened I probably wouldn't want it to happen, so yes it would technically be rape, fantasies are fantasies for a reason
Just wait until virtual reality porn becomes so advanced that women are no longer required.
>hates women
>wants women
I don't understand
The only thing that will happen is that incels will die out, it could be good for the rest of society.
I want them but they have this obnoxious, selfish thing attached to them called a will.
Not really, society always needs someone to make fun of and to place at the bottom. If incels are gone it could be anyone next.
Normies turn on each other
Yah, I can't really decide if I want to become one or if I should be glad I'm not one.
We legitimately have one of these threads almost daily
Will you dumb fucking cocksuckers just make a good damn general for yourselves already? Like holy shit
The problem is CLEARLY you
Why the fuck would YOU date someone for whom a solution to their problem is complaining in an echo chamber?
You're a goddamn disgrace and so is anyone who takes your worthless goddamn side.
This is the general
>it's my fault women are picky
Be optimistic, your not gonna get the first one, maybe not even the second or third. But keep trying, and Everytime try to put on a smile and act like you want to be there. Always be interested in what she's saying. You have no idea how attractive girls find you when you just focus on them.
Yes, it's your fault that you manage to hit not a single one of their buttons
But you know what no, you're right. Just sit here and fucking bitch like trash and something will magically just ~~change~~ for you.
I sincerely believe all of your type, your kind would be better off in containment. I have no idea what ""redeeming"" qualities you claim to have that a woman would want in the first place. You're asking people to buy mouldy food.
T. Bitter beta male
I hate women too so I decided to be single for the rest of my life with the occasional hooker or two once in a while. Never been happier.
What am I supposed to do? Women ain't buying what I'm giving. I can only be myself. I'm not a chad, a badboy or an extrovert. Fuck these shallow bitches.
That doesn't bother me, I prefer virtual reality porn.
>What can I do?
Like I said, bitch here like a little sissy boi who can't take shit to peoples' faces and call women mean names on the internet. That will make everything magically better... Unlike solutions such as, say, critically assessing your flaws or working on your physique or rethinking your approach or reevaluating your standards.
The sad thing is most times I hear that you guys are cute, but your personalities fucking kill ladyboners. Then you blame literally everything but yourself, and then you wonder why legitimately nobody likes you.
I guarantee most males who have mates are not badbois or rolling in dough. THERES MORE TO IT THAN BEING A NICE GUY, you gotta actually put in effort.
There's probably less to it, it's simply random.
well theres alot of women out there, and yes they are picky as fuck, they have a biological imperative to be picky. thats just biology. but maybe out there is is a woman who will buy what your selling, you just have to look harder and find one. it sucks its the way it is for men.
Men have always been the success of the human race, every advancment, every achivement with very very few exceptions, have all been mens actions. Women are there to provide me comfort and to help procreate the species. With this in mind yes, you as a MAN , have to put most of the work, effort, and time into attracting a mate. there are excpetions of course, but this is the general trend.
Always remember you dont have to play this game, you notnhaving kids isnt going to stop humanity as a whole.
You just generalize by observing women who are in your range aka women that you are interested in. Not all women are like this but you just prefer trying to get shallow, gold digger whores. I think you should start questioning your taste in women rather than complaining about how all women love fuckbois and worship money.
The thing with women is that they feel like they are allowed to be picky because men let them be
I think women should make their appeals to me. Who made them godesses? Why are they the ones who can have standards? Youre playing the blame game, when really you are just making a biased valuation.
Because their body is at risk since they are the ones who could get pregnant, not men.
No, the thing with women is they have to be picky because guys are becoming increasingly liable to respond with violence despite calling themselves 'nice guys,' IE the Toronto kid wheeling through people in a van.
Nobody wants to engage these guys because anyone who gives off even a remote air of 'would solve problems with murder' is just too much of a problem zone.
I've heard it first-hand from multiple women both taken and single: the market is just so overloaded with guys who do nothing but think highly of themselves and belittle others. Why would that be attractive?
Furthermore, what kind of person-- forget woman-- wants to be with someone only to be such a powerful lynchpin to their personality and happiness? No, people enter relationships to share in these things, not take on the burden of being OP's mommy or happiness vending machine.
If these guys would step up their fucking game and actually be something besides "I'M NEED GIRLFRIEND" then they might have luck. As it is, every girl I've ever talked to knows immediately that they're just desperate for inclusion, and no chick I've ever talked to wants to be some 6/10's stepping-stone.
The sad thing is, most of them have confrontational, aggressive attitudes that tend toward shifting blame and responsibility, which is again a gigantic red flag for BOTH genders, not just women.
And I mean, I know these threads in particular are bait, but guys like that are out there. Guys who genuinely believe women are obligated to date them, or some whacky shit.
Oh, and no woman-- no person really-- wants to date someone to whom they are 'semi-attractive' or even considered 'average.'
In order for women to be interested in you, you need to be interesting. Based on this post, you are not very interesting.
>Oh, and no woman-- no person really-- wants to date someone to whom they are 'semi-attractive' or even considered 'average.'
I only said that because the stock response to this kind of topic is "lower your standards". I don't have impossible standards but I'm still not attractive enough for your typical woman.
Excuses don't help anyone in this thread. "Only saying it" is still saying it.
The sooner you realize blaming others does nothing in this case, the sooner you can get the fuck over your inability to accept your own failures, move on, and become something more-- something you'd actually WANT to offer to girls.
I have to agree that women need to be picky, but at the same time I think they are picky in a wrong direction, aka height and idk for example money
I agree with this.
Well it is, but at the same times just as many women are like that.
Relationships are never only rainbows but I just think that we, as a women, expect sometimes too much for a little we have to give.
I personally think I am a valuable partner, I would say that when it comes to life situation I'm dating down. Something that many women would find unacceptable but never realise that if they date up it means that their partner is dating down
I personally think that 6/10 isn't bad, I mean it's above average. And well many men become bitter because they are not trying, but the same goes for women
I believe that average woman should date average man, below average woman should date below average man and perfect woman should date perfect man
News Flash: Looks open the door, and personality helps you get a foot in it, the end. Telling anyone else otherwise is just plain wrong and detrimental to them. You have to be at least above average looking for a normal woman to give you attention. Don't listen to the women posting on here too much, they're the exception and it's a shame our paths never get to cross with theirs, for things may have worked out between us. Normies are a hivemind, they don't stray far from what's accepted. Having a nice face or being tall or having an extremely charming personality are what matters in attracting women. If you have none of the above you're fucked.
If they will act like animals, i will to - an unhinged brutal animal. They will have no right to complain about it.
why don't you go find a dick instead
>No, the thing with women is they have to be picky because guys are becoming increasingly liable to respond with violence despite calling themselves 'nice guys,' IE the Toronto kid wheeling through people in a van
so confirmation bias, finding a "reason" for something that they've already been doing in the first place, aka a copout.
> the market is just so overloaded with guys who do nothing but think highly of themselves and belittle others. Why would that be attractive?
so basically the same thing that women do to men, but they don't like it done to themselves? women projecting hard right here.
>Furthermore, what kind of person-- forget woman-- wants to be with someone only to be such a powerful lynchpin to their personality and happiness?
women do this all of the time, just as much as some men, they're literally broken people unless they have some kind of man in their life.
>No, people enter relationships to share in these things, not take on the burden of being OP's mommy or happiness vending machine.
>implying that men don't serve as a woman's status symbol, fuck toy, emotional tampon or holding place until something better comes along
>Oh, and no woman-- no person really-- wants to date someone to whom they are 'semi-attractive' or even considered 'average.'
it's actually pretty surprising how many above average men have been pairing up with average or below average women these days, once again women are projecting their own insecurities onto men.
I bet you like that stuff ;)
Every province you take without a proper casus belli increases it until you become known as dishonourable scum and are gangraped to death by your angry neighbours.
>this is what Jow Forums actually believes
kek
I do actually
>Women want access to the world of work
>Get it and take 50% of the precarity work
>Still want to be picky when it comes to money and status in a partner
Women cause the majority of the problems, they haven't adjusted to their new social role at all. They want 1950s men whilst being 2018 women.
Just legalize and destigmatize prostitution. This way all the dudes who can't get girlfriends can still get laid and the men who easily get women have nothing to worry about.
We, as men, need to stop blaming women. We're too busy competing over warm wet holes to see how hard we're enabling the things those holes are attached to. For every time a man doesn't enable there's 10 more men willing to bend over backwards to just get a chance at that hole. Then, those men pat each other on the back and say "that's what being a real man is". It's pathetic.