Procrastination

How do I act on my goals? Take them seriously enough?

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that depends on what your goals are. we could list generic advice, but if you tell us what your goals are we could probably fine tune it a bit. what's a short term goal of yours? like something you could accomplish in 3 months. What's an ongoing goal of yours, something that you want to make a permanent part of your life (like going to the gym)? And what is a long term goal? something that has an end game, but takes at least more than a year to accomplish.

help us help you.

also, before we help you with all that there is one truth you really need to recognize. if you are too lazy to simply do the thing you want to do, the chances are that you will be too lazy to do something that will motivate you to then do the thing you want to do. asking for help on procrastination is often just asking for more steps to do something you are already not doing. with the exception of removing certain roadblocks that are in your way, it really comes down to you simply doing it.

It helps when the goal is something you actually want, rather than just something you ought to do. Ideally, what you want to do and what you ought to do will be the same thing, but for most people that doesn't come naturally.

I won't lie, I'm guilty of that, depression or no depression, that must also be overcomed.
Very well then
>Short term
Both ongoing and a goal would be meditation
gain self knowledge, self observation, etc
start fixing my depression and bad habits
read more

It's something I want, yes, I need to want it even more though

So here is part of your problem. a lot of your goals are vague indefinable things. its like setting up a new years resolution saying 'i want to eat better'. what does that even mean? how do you know when you've achieved it. you get some people who immediately think they won without changing anything and others who think they haven't despite changing everything. when you say 'gain self knowledge' that isn't a real goal. cuz there is no endgame, no measurement, no proof. nothing. thats just life, and you are going to get it anyway.

>meditation
So this is where a lot of your issues are going to come into play. meditation is the easiest thing in the world. you literally just have to sit down, and think. thats it. but if you are 'procrastinating' on just sitting down and thinking, then either you are truly lazy, or this isn't something you really want to do. there is a difference between things that 'sound cool' and 'what oyu really want to do'.

In my film class everyone wanted to be a filmmaker as you can imagine. except for how none of them ever actually wanted to make films. I'm the only one to ever finish a feature.

but if you want to try and push on with that anyways here are some things that might help.

>have a schedule
this is perhaps the most important thing I can recommend. writing a schedule thats daily, or bi daily, or weekly, can really make you do shit. the day is still young. so sit down RIGHT NOW, and in this thread write down a list of things you want to do today, and then a list of things you want to do tomorrow. for instance

>meditate for half an hour
>read for half an hour
>go for a 20 minute walk

put a timer on your phone for each of these things. don't guess. don't assume. measure perfectly. if you get up to check your computer or your texts during this time, you already failed. set your phone to airplane mode before you begin anything like this.

>So this is where a lot of your issues are going to come into play. meditation is the easiest thing in the world. you literally just have to sit down, and think. thats it. but if you are 'procrastinating' on just sitting down and thinking, then either you are truly lazy, or this isn't something you really want to do. there is a difference between things that 'sound cool' and 'what oyu really want to do'.
I might have worded things horribly
I'm meditating, two minutes a day, had a streak about 2 weeks ago but sadly, I lost it
I want to get better times at ai 2 then 5 then 10, you get it

I want to gain self knowledge, and valuable, when it comes to my worldviews and beliefs, I want to truly analize my faults, I want to see things differently, I want to increase rationality, I want to stop my internet addiction, I want to have more confidence and stop the self sabotage, I want to learn better, I want to use my time in the bst way I can, more organization, I want to have motivation and stop lying to myself.

>depression

depression is tricky because its just become a new word for 'sad'. there is real clinical depression out there that has nothing ot do without external forces, and then there is the kind that most 'depressed' people have which comes down entirely to the way they live their life. pic related is a great example. if you masturbate several times a day, have a largely 'junk' diet, don't get social interaction daily, don't get sunlight, and rely on drugs that give you those endorphins you so desperately crave, you're fucking yourself up.

you ever wonder why wild animals weren't 'depressed'? its because depression isn't about emotional things that make you happy, but rather a physical routine that evolution programmed to make you happy in order to ensure your survival. realistically a 'cave person' should be depressed by modern day standards. yet none of them committed suicide. for the most part its because they got lots of sunlight, which gave them vitamin D. This builds up in the brain, which causes depression, however when you exercise it breaks it down and releases endorphins that make you happy. you rarely see a fit person who is 'depressed' because they physically are unable to be. just by exercising you release a chemical that makes you happy for a day or two. and you DONT need to be fit. you just have to exercise. jogging for 20 minutes every day / every other day can do the job.

so maybe take that 'walk' mentioned in the last post and change it toa 'jog'. sure you wont jog for the full 20 minutes on day 1. but you'll get there, and every bit counts.

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Break it down.

- What is your goal? Make it concrete and attainable and ideally something that doesn't rely on external circumstances. "Lose weight" is no good. "Lose 1-2 pounds per week" is good.

- How can you get to your goal? Split it up into smaller steps. if "Get a job" is your goal, what can you do to get the job? Step 1, build a resume. Step 2, Apply to x number of jobs per week. Step 3, work on thing(s) you can put into your portfolio.

- Break it down into things you can do daily. Turn those daily things into a habit by completing them reliably. Don't bite off more than you can chew, start small (1-2 things a day) and then add more as you adapt to the new habits and become able to add more.

Focus creating small successes. A small success gives you progress, energy, and motivation for a larger success. Compile larger successes and eventually you will reach your goal.

>gain self knowledge blah blah blah
find a way to more realistically define these things, OR accept that they are indefinable and therefore aren't goals, and that most people really just learn more about themselves as they go along no matter what the circumstances. however if you want to try and measure it, there is no end goal BUT add another thing to your to do list: write in my journal every day/two days/three days about what I did that day. of course include your feelings about things and what happened.

then about once every two weeks on your 'to do list' add a 'review journal. it is your job to read what you did and how you felt the last two weeks and aks yourself 'do i feel different? could I have done something differently? was I ever in the wrong here?'

its good shit. and finally

>HAVE FUN
Don't let your life become some 'perfectly structured' maintenance of yourself. its boring and defeats the purpose of doing it. you want to be a better person so that you can enjoy life, but you can't enjoy life without fun.

again, MOST of the things you listed are indefinable fluffy feeling type things that you can't legitimately measure or improve.

>i was meditating two minutes a day but i want to get better times.

then do better times. do a full 20 minutes today. don't build up to it. thats foo foo fluffy feelings bullshit.

There's nothing you can do to make yourself look at things more seriously than you already do.

All you can do is get yourself in the habit of doing the things you know you ought to be doing first and then playing only when you are done.

It's simply a matter of willpower.

I'vve been depressed for 5 yeas now, was on meds but I was more tired so I stopped
and I do most things on thee image, im truly my worsst enemy.

After some events, I just gave up on everything, I'm exhausted most of the time, I'm a fucking failure

YEAH YUORE FUCKING RIGHT IM A FUCKING IMBECILE

*YOUR
FUCKING A

We should start some sort of productivity discord. a buddy system does help people get thigns done as well.

if you truly want to break internet addiction though the best way is to simply remove internet. yes it means you will be without some luxuries, but those luxuries often hold you back more than they propel you forward.

Break shit up into tiny manageable completable steps and do a bit every day. An end goal is vague and meaningless and contains zero information on how to get there. That's why most people fail.

Your goal shouldn't be "start going to the gym". It should be
Monday: "research gym memberships in my area.
Tuesday: select gym
Wednesday: go apply for membership
Friday: select and lay out clothes.
Saturday: use any free fitness assessment or program offered.

And so on and so on. Single, tangible, defined, doable manageable steps. This applies to anything involving procrastination. Don't think "I want a clean house today" think "I have to pick up a dish and out water on it. Ok now I have to do it again".

The minor.details pertaining to achieving the end result. Finding out what those details are even is one of the early steps. "What goes into playing guitar, what skills and knowledge is required" instead of "where do I start?" Understand?

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I'll probably just end it all, easier after all
fuck it all

>WOW INSTEAD OF MAKING A SCHEDULE I THINK ILL JUST KILL MYSELF
please just delete this thread, no one wants to hear you whine.

Isn't Facebook awesome?
I mean any qualified therapist would tell you the key to any of these mental illnesses is scheduling accountability time management and teaching yourself thinking better but nah... We got mental illmess awareness now everyone just whine and do nothing.

Stop being overdramatic or cry alone. People are trying to help you and it is in your hands to do the hard shit. I'll bet you wonder why no one seems to care about you too.

>Stop being overdramatic or cry alone. People are trying to help you and it is in your hands to do the hard shit. I'll bet you wonder why no one seems to care about you too.
YOU think i care, all of you are just laughing at me, so better am i right youre all so great right
>I'll bet you wonder why no one seems to care about you too.
you think I care aboout others, fuck them, fuck humanity

OP, it sounds like you might have a deeper problem. Yeah there's some jerks in the thread, there always are, but there are some people offering legitimate advice and you're ignoring it and saying everyone's laughing at you. You're lashing out a lot over something comparatively small.

Honestly, you probably need to see a therapist. There may be more than just procrastination at work here.

dude go talk to your therapist, this is not the place for this. im just leaving the thread. what started as great wholesome thread to talk about realistic solutions to problems has just turned to you whining about life instead of sitting down and meditating for 20 minutes or going for a jog. we even offered to make some sort of discord to help support you.

but apparently that is not enough for you and you'd rather whine for that endorphin release. so im leaving. goodbye.

the things is im a sack of shit
and maybe what theyre are saying is true, i dont want to be unfixable, but perhaps I Am

>discord
I know what youre trying to do, people dont help each other, im not even human in your eyes, im shit to you, and besides youll just mock me behind my back i know it
help, what a joke

I can see the spikes and lines in their eyes, tracking me, wantme to take a walk with that outside, you asshole, people hate me, the earth hates me

jfc you nitwits he's depressed. no shit there's "more than just procrastination at work here" you're expecting sunshine and rainbows out of a guy who's been depressed for 5 years, recently gave up on life himself and everything, and has just had to come face to face with a bunch of shit he's probably been trying very hard not to let himself think about. fucking hell you couldn't be more up your own arses if you tried

you're not a sack of shit m8. sacks of shit either don't care that they are such or actually celebrate and take pride in their shittiness. sure you've been acting like a sack of shit (and that's not going to change overnight, have patience with yourself, k?) but it causes you distress which is a VERY GOOD THING. or rather it *can be* a good thing if it drives you to correct the behaviour and the mindset behind it. many people fall into the trap of allowing the distress to be their punishment so they can remain idle, a.k.a. "i'm depressed and acting like an asshole but it's not like i don't hate myself for it like i'm 'supposed to' so at least i'm doing that much right". that's one of the worst thinking traps you can let yourself fall into for two reasons. first, it means you're reinforcing the behaviour by subconsciously justifying its continuance. second, it means you're teaching yourself to react to guilt ( = "i did bad") by converting it to shame ( = "i am bad") which then soon beings to have the unfortunate side effect of preventing you from accepting and embracing feelings of happiness altogether ("i'm depressed and hate myself and my behaviour, i don't deserve to be feeling happiness or letting myself enjoy whatever positive thing is happening in this moment").

tl;dr GUILT IS A GOOD THING don't avoid or try to escape valid feelings of it, it's our healthy built-in mechanism for self-correction

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the stuff others have said about clear, definable, achievable goals is solid af. get your goals in mind and then work backwards and 'reverse engineer' each of them to gain a clear view on a clear path of the steps you'll need to take to reach the goal. any steps that seem too overwhelming can be broken down into smaller steps; keep doing this until the steps seem manageable, and do it anytime you feel overwhelmed by what's next on your to-do list. don't try to do too much too soon lest you burn out and land back at square 1. a burst of energy and activity is a great way to get some momentum going though, so if the motivation for that strikes you then definitely do take advantage of it. just don't expect that going from 0 to 100 is realistic to keep pace with. find the amount of pressure you can realistically deal with and keep maintained, and then build your way up from there. focus on persistence and a steady rate of increase. and when you fall along the way, don't stay down even one single second longer than you absolutely need to.

don't go too easy on yourself. don't go too hard on yourself. have patience, forgive yourself if you need to do so, show yourself compassion like you deserve, and cultivate self discipline again like you desire. lastly, think gratefully upon the things which have gone well that day for a few minutes after every time you contemplate and reassess the things which didn't go so well. you've gotten your mind out of the habit of being familiar with anything but negative thoughts. you *need* to carve out new chennels for positive thoughts to follow, and immersing yourself in feelings of gratitude is the most effective and efficient way to lay the tread for those paths. chin up, op

memes
i might consider reading your posts
they were right this board its useless, first you remind me how inferior I am then you want to "help" me

Try this approach, see it the other way.
Another goal is another trap. Procrastination is another trap. The way you want to see the world hinders you from seeing the world really. To look into one’s goal is like walking with binoculars on one’s eyes. To see this moment, is enough. Is it not, after all, that everything one experiences, is known as it comes. And that there is no experience that is not known.

You just fucking do it.

See that thing you need to do? Go over there and fucking do the thing.

No math. No chicken soup for the soul bullshit. Just goddamn DO IT.

I always heard this kind of thing about depression or bad moods. There's some studies which proved that?

t. non depressed and uninformed user.

you're not inferior and you'd do well to put that idea out of your head. this board is where depressives and sociopaths end up congregating. makes for a pretty godawful mix sometimes. anyway. give my posts a read if you feel like it. i've no interest in kicking people when they're down.