>To be blunt, Canada is flirting with a national crisis. The signs are there for those who can check their preconceived notions at the door: >How about that the province of Alberta has been the only net contributor to Canada’s federal budget for several years running? Or that Alberta is the only province that isn’t aging into mass retirement, and therefore is the only province that will have the capacity to continue to pay in the future? Or that Alberta’s primary income stream — oil exports — are being actively stymied by local politics in a host of other provinces? Or that Alberta’s in-pay level to the federal budget has already been penciled in to fund the new Canadian government’s spending plans regardless of what happens to Alberta’s oil income? Or that the Edmonton-Ottawa funds transfers are already the greatest of their kind from any province to any central government in the modern world? Or that Canada can no longer maintain its standard of living without draining Alberta dry, or that Alberta cannot maintain its standard of living so long as it remains in Canada? zeihan.com/missed-opportunity-alberta/
I saw a bunch of yellowvests protesting in Calgary today. People are super pissed. I've never seen people this angry and their are rumours major layoffs will be coming next year in the oil industry.
>landlocked shitstate dependent on Canadian trade and access where all the Canadian workers will have to go back home Yeah, go for it oilcucks.
Owen Lopez
this is how the annexation starts.
Joshua Fisher
Peter Zeihan has been predicting this for awhile now. Alberta will be the 51st state and the day of the rake will follow. youtube.com/watch?v=lw5LjZ3Q7j4
Samuel King
Alberta should leave canada and merge their border with Texas.
Tyler Robinson
ur entire countrys gonna be chinese in 6 years so it doesnt matter anyway
Evan Murphy
enjoy losing your gibes loser
William Lee
nobody fucking moves to Nova Scotia lol
enjoy your false sense of Independence fuck access to the seas, am I right?
Juan Mitchell
The price of crude oil is at rock bottom. Alberta separating now would be foolish.
Leo Morales
>Alberta as a separate entity. >1 country on the continent surrounds it on 3 sides and has an axe to grind. >The other 2 countries don't want their own regions getting any ideas about going it alone. >Precedence is already set via Quebec that no country would uphold previous trade agreements. >Suddenly Alberta has no free trade, fewer markets to access, and a rapidly increased cost of living. >Leadership of the seperatist movements includes a WN, an MLA thrown out of caucus for dodgy doughnuts, and a welder who has to wear glasses all the time.
Fucking good luck by's, North East Calgary and South East Edmonton with all their New Canadians won't be too fond of losing their coveted passport and outnumber you at any referendum.
Jason Lee
it's albertans that are the problem. maybe we should relocate the traitors to reeducation camps at the north pole
Ryan Mitchell
How ridiculous. They didn't win that territory, and they don't guard it, more than other Canadians, they just happened to be with the oil inside the arbitrary provincial line drawn by the federal government around them.
Noah Smith
To bad they'll just culturally enrich Alberta to the point where the vote will fail by the time it's taken
Juan Baker
canada is fucked. leaving this sinking shit will be the best decision ever made
>zeihan.com/missed-opportunity-alberta/ Canada has a serious problem beyond this as well. There are a lot of reasons why it makes sense for Canada to split up. If they continue to have horrible leaders like Trudeau for another ten years it's almost inevitable.
The Quebecois could easily turn secessionist again.
Alberta has every reason to leave Canada.
BC, aka Vancouver, are a bunch of cunts and chinks and don't care in the slightest about anyone else.
Atlantic Canada, cut off by a Quebec secession and seeing Canada splinter, would have every reason to go it alone.
Gavin Nelson
>the US steps in >Alberta becomes the 51 state >no more handjob bars for you
>They didn't win that territory, and they don't guard it
America guards it. Nobody else.
Jack Cox
>implying America wouldn't be happy to do business with it because fuck Canada neck yourself, Chong
Joseph Hughes
Wait, who's going to pay for our cousins' welfare?
Elijah Foster
You can move here, just bring your oil and trees with you
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William Johnson
This will be insanely bad for Alberta. We're talking 1 million middle class people leaving within a year of separation - causing a massive housing crises + the Immediate loss of funding of every university, hospital, police station, prison, road workers, power plants.
Next the USA will flood the job market with people who are used to making like 8 dollars an hour, to live in shacks an work the oilfields, while american corporations buy up literally everything. All fast food, restaurant, service employees will have their pay cut in half and will move away.
All Alberta citizens will lose their universal healthcare immediately - something that is worth like $500 000 (if you get cancer, or a heart condition)
As an Albertan, I'm fine with statehood solong as we can negotiate our provincial healthcare system into the fold. But being our own country is absolutely fucking retarded.
Real talk, because of how the prairies were settled back in the day with both our countries having a scramble, a lot of southern Albertans are culturally more similar to Americans than Canadian because of this.
Gabriel Jones
>the Immediate loss of funding of every university, hospital, police station, prison, road workers, power plants.
Alberta loses more money to the Canadian government than it gets in return.
Aiden Hill
reeducation camps at the north pole looking better and better eh?
Robert Brown
Isn't that how Mao managed to take over Tibet mostly without military force? He flung Chinese civilians over there and agents and breed a actual annex over there and out bred everyone? I bet my life Canada is next.
Christopher Brooks
Alberta militia drives south, conquering and annexing entire counties. Texas militia drives north, doing the same. We link up in the middle and join our two lands into one great nation.
It's not a complicated plan, user. I've traveled north of Texas, a bit. No one will stop us.
Angel Perez
absolutely not. and Obamacare just ended. you'll be on an employer's plan, if you get lucky, but likely will have no health insurance. you'd honestly be better off living off welfare in B.C. if you think you might have a major illness sometime later in life.
Nolan Campbell
Alberta has a lot to offer the US - I believe it would be the richest state in the country in fact.
Adam Perry
Oh god please Let Nova scotia be next. the mainland can suck my stinky fishermans poor white cock.
I honestly don't see the UN or Canada letting Alberta Separate, they'd send in troops to stop that shit. I'd be down with you becoming a state though, our peoples are pretty close in a cultural sense
Andrew Ward
Alberta will be taken in by the US as our 51st state. Albertans will gain the protections of the Constitution, get a huge tax break, and gain access to the world markets to sell their oil.
Parker Gomez
We will welcome Alberta with open arms
Brayden Green
You'll have to fund it yourselves, but yiu wouldn't be the first state to have a system like that. Many states already have it.
Juan Scott
Good pitch
Nolan Evans
more like
>keep 20 bil a year in equalisation >canada collapses >AB joins the USA >investments pour into AB now that its no longer cucked by a retarded country, everyone gets massively rich
Asher Harris
lol yeah then demand for oil drops and they end up as northern mississippi
Austin Davis
>Alberta has been the only net contributor
I’m not anti oil and shit but that’s a blatant lie BC and Saskatchewan have been contributors too. BC AB and SK are all being ripped off
Also Alberta separation isn’t happening as long as notley is in charge
Hunter Barnes
This country is prime for a break-up, too. I'd let them join the confederacy, however
Brandon Ross
What are you bringing to the table?
Henry Myers
but dumber
Lucas Bell
Obama Care didn't end bro, it's still here. Unfortunately, the Pharmaceutical companies and their ventures(Doctors,Hospitals,cancer research centers &c) need obamacare to subsidies their conglomerates . Exponential growth is hard to keep up with
Jack Butler
Peter Zeihan: The Geopolitics Guy
Flat arable land, energy independence, and above replacement fertility determine everything. If you agree with that statement you’ll love Peter Zeihan. To his credit there is value in flat arable land.
Zeihan claims that the US economy is independent of the world because only 8% of US GDP comes from exports with half of those within NAFTA. If you noticed there’s a glaring omission in that statement. Imports. Imports consist of 14% of the GDP. That’s a bigger number which means our market is a little more integrated than Zeihan would imply. It also belies a trade deficit which means that the global market has deeper reach into US markets than the inverse.
While Zeihan is correct that the US is a net oil exporter and doesn’t really need foreign oil he misses the point on the role of oil in the US economic and political order. 90% of all oil worldwide is traded in the dollar. This is the Petrodollar. The US dollar is propped up by being necessary for oil trade worldwide. If people stop buying oil in US dollars the US doesn’t run out of oil, but the dollar would crash. However he views that the US dollar will remain preeminent because all the other currencies suck for reasons.
As an expert on demographics Zeihan will tell you that the US is poised to do well because our population is growing. On the other hand both Russia and China are on the verge of collapse. Russia will have an army half as big in 10 years because of their demographic collapse. This is the motivation behind Russian aggression as of late. China is about to shatter along ethnic lines and the one child policy screwed them.
Its not a new idea. Saskatchewan could follow, hell maybe BC too. The day of the rake is imminent. youtube.com/watch?v=lw5LjZ3Q7j4
Zachary Jenkins
how would that be different under Canadian rule? Also, Alberta has much more going on than just oil.
Hudson Nelson
Without even going full Jow Forums you can see that those projections are either slanted or just plain wrong. The US population growth is almost entirely due to immigration. With the shift in the US toward more low wage work in the service industry this boost in population numbers doesn’t imply a similar economic stability.
The belief that the Russians are aggressive really ignores the last 30 years of geopolitics wherein Russian client states have faced “color revolutions” and fallen into the US orbit. Russians have been on the strategic defensive since the end of the cold war. The demographic collapse Zeihan saw on the population pyramid already happened with no meaningful impact on the size of the Russian military. Since the South Ossetia conflict they have modernized their technology, developed a professional NCO corps, and revamped their force structure.
China is 90% Han Chinese and in the breakaway provinces of Tibet and Xinjiang millions of Han have been bussed in and consist of majorities there too. While the Uyghurs may still offer some resistance the ethnic demographic war has already been won. The excess males of the one child policy have found a purpose too. 1 million Chinese men work abroad, many in Africa, on the belt and road economic project. To contrast with Zeihan’s lamentation about the end of the world order the Chinese are busy creating their own. They even leveraged their supposed demographic weakness into a strength.
His other claims are dubious as well. Brazil will collapse and Argentina has the geography to pick up the slack. Russia wants Turkey in Syria to keep them out of Ukraine. The British pound can’t be a world currency because everyone hates the UK.
Bingo. I've been saying this a lot lately but I'll say it again. Trump annexes/invades Canada in his second term. As a matter of national security we can't share a border with a China controlled nation.
Jonathan Morales
Just annex Canada except Quebec and make Quebec their own country. It's only proper.
Jason Russell
At this point you would be tempted to write this up to non-sequiturs from a best selling author making his pitch. There’s a lot to that, but look at his core message. The end of the US world order is bad for the rest of the world. Our military involvement protected human rights and now no one will. Big trade deals like NAFTA are good, but don’t go far enough. Hispanics are swing voters and veterans love Hillary Clinton. The Euro failed because it didn’t go far enough; only the currency integrated not the banking sectors. Russia and China are bad. Iran and Saudi Arabia hate each other for inscrutable reasons that will inevitably lead toward direct confrontation. He says exactly what his alumni at Stratfor want to hear.
Peter Zeihan provides poor analysis. He ignores datapoints and trends that conflict with or outright invalidate his projections. He is prone to non-sequiturs that sound really exciting. His thinking is marketable, but the markets aren’t thoughtful. Pop geopolitics are empty calories. Study history, read the news, and talk to people and you’ll know far more than Zeihan.
I mean we are the lost 14th colony and rightfully should be american clay. plus you pretty much get all of the north western atlantic ocean when you take us. most of us have family in new england so integration would be instant. also we are like 95% white
The people in BC (other than Vancouver fuck Vancouver it isn’t even BC anymore) Saskatchewan and maybe Manitoba step in as well and form a confederacy. If the shitskins in calgaristan don’t vote yes in a referendum we just say fuck referrendums and take independence by force
Easton Robinson
petrodollar is already kill, you old fuck
Brandon Carter
yeah in a few years it'll be the biggest toxic wast dump in the world
Wyatt Martin
>BC aka Vancouver
The rest of BC is absolutely fucking sick of Vancouver. You hear people here in the interior talk more shit about vancouver than Calgary or Toronto these days
Caleb James
>new statehood rules >must guarantee Conservative votes >must be better than 90% white
Ethan Parker
It's only at rock bottom because nobody can buy it.
Gabriel Edwards
>THIS IS NOT A JOKE Yes it is. It's Peter Zeihan's wishful thinking.
their almost completely worthless oil, that comes from tar-sands whichs is far more expensive to refine than anything from mexico, texas, or fracking....Why would the USA want to drive down their price of oil with shitty Alberta oil?
And... will the rest of the usa even want to compete with their already terrible source of oil? The constitution will give Alberta essentially nothing. When the housing market goes under, what is the point in slightly lower taxes?
Jackson Kelly
Two years old, but still applicable, and needs to happen soon. Doug Ford's trying his best but Ontario is going to be Venezuela sooner rather than later. Thanks to the mismanagement of the 90's we now have a demented civil service enjoying globally unprecedented salary and perks at the expense of the private sector, who were also given the power to strike by the NDP in the 90's. We're looking at a power worker's strike in January when it's -20 at night. Most of these people make well over $40/h to work ~5 hours a day. We've been running the worst deficits aside from California for years to pay all these leeches and we have none of the bragging points. Infrastructure is rotting. Costs are so out of control that private sector wages are depressed and we can't attract real tech talent. 1 out of every 2 tax dollars goes to health care so that every lonely old woman over 80 can go to the doctor 4 times a week to talk about the grandchildren that never visit, and my God there are a lot of them. We need an outside power to intervene and hit the reset button. The only saving grace is the people causing the most problems are the most replaceable. We can't defend the northwest passage or our "sovereign" waters. Gaining the responsible province might hopefully strike a chord in America too, before your hordes of niggers and millennials manage to vote in Canada-style policies and ruin your children's lives.
Grayson Scott
>the US having a stable population pyramid thanks to net money sinks (indios) is a good thing Wow this guy is delusional
Sebastian Ramirez
It may be dying, but it isn't dead yet. Our economy would have collapsed if it was.
Aaron Gonzalez
>loses universal healthcare
Healthcare is provincial not federal dumbfuck. The only way Alberta would lose it is if their people voted against it
Andrew Wilson
Why should we care about what happens in 3rd world countries?
Kayden Hughes
>these butthurt liberal eastern canadians getting worried their cash cow is about to leave
fucking kek. keep these posts coming
Jackson Walker
Ford just fucked up appointed his personal friend as the top cop in the province, Caroline Mulroney, expected to be the next PM for the conservative party literally just ended her political career by hanging on with Dough Ford and being embarrassed by how shitty he is. He just caused a $185 Million dollar pay out to a firm that Hydro One was going to buy, b/c he fired the Hydro One CEO and interfered with the company... They are expected to hire a new Hydro One CEO that will cost about $4 Million/year.
He spent 185 million to save 2 million.
Mason Howard
never listen to the predicted outcomes from such people - their interpretation is useless and likely slanted by their need to fit into the current system. the value is in their data and analysis - you must draw your own conclusions.
China is absolutely unstable - they admit as much. Russia does have a demographic issue. The US population growth has already started turning and can be boosted significantly in the white population without much effort. Trump is on his way to getting wall built and immigrants are being kicked out left and right. White birth rates and culture are very much on the upswing in most of the country.
Cooper Diaz
Interior BC is fine as well as is Saskatchewan
You can break Vancouver from BC and make it into a city state like Hong Kong
Trump isn't invading Canada It will probably be like Crimea where the province secedes and then votes to join the union afterwards.
Owen Carter
The maritimes wouid actually benefit greatly from having its own currency too. They would have to return to work though.
Samuel Young
>You can break Vancouver from BC and make it into a city state like Hong Kong
isn't it ethnically already that way
Cooper Flores
The US should have just let the CSA leave
Lincoln Perez
I like the idea of not taking Vancouver - the rest of BC is the real value. Atlantic Canada would also be worth taking for the US. Honestly the shit parts are Ontario, Quebec, Manitoba, and Vancouver.
Kayden Taylor
Based and whitepilled. Its not over yet and only shills will screech over this.
By official numbers yes In reality a fuck pile of the chinks that count as “living” there are just owners of houses they use to launder money and will never set foot there. A total ban on foreigners owning land and resulting mass eviction would cut the chink population in half also. That’s where the partly comes in
Depends is it worth the cost in money and manpower to clean up Vancouver? If not yeah might as well be a city state with Swiss type tax haven banks
Austin Sullivan
Canadas military is gutted and rotten, it can't hold down anything more than a buffet now.
they pay a slightly higher amount right now - but the rest of Canada paid for them to even exist in the first place, it would be stabbing someone who helped you earlier in the back. plus, how many people in alberta are like 'pure albertans' and how many are from Atlantic canada and Ontario looking for work?
Ethan Johnson
Who do you think is going to watch all that?
Michael Long
As an eastern canadian, me buddy, I would happily eat nothing but fucking road salt and moose if it meant the end of this confederation and a free Alberta. Canada is dead.
