Becoming more intelligent

i don't want to have specially high iq i just want it to be enough to steer a conversation or discussion and sound smart while im doing that. most of people on Jow Forums can do easily it and i can't. it just makes me feel like shit considering people in real life see 4channers as dumb antisocial people but i can't even be as good as any of them. i want to develop my own personality and form my own opinions and be able to reply to others like everyone else but why is it so difficult for me?

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Trying to create an intellectual appearance without any necessity is a degradation of one self as it shows your innate depency on upholding social standards to an upmost point.
I suggest you to begin reading classics like "The Prince" and "Moby Dick".
After you finish reading them i suggest you require the help of the /lit/ as it offers more resources and advice regarding this subject

even if you have an IQ of 130 people can still think you are dumb, that's me,
if you want to impress dumb people than just go get a liberal arts degree and pretend you are a hipster also you will need to perfect that stupid voice most of these people have

so if i read classical books i'll know how to talk to people and learn to acquire my own points of view?
i can't even properly review stupid stuff like anime or video games without looking at what other people think of it. i'm so unoriginal in "my" thoughts it makes me feel nonhuman.

Okay, you want to:
>Steer conversations
That isn't intelligence, that's charisma and tact.
>Sound smart
"Sounding smart" is a retarded goal. Just speak comfortably about things you know well, then people will think you sound smart because EVERYONE SOUNDS SMART IN THEIR ELEMENT. You'll do just fine.

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>speak comfortably about things you know well
i don't know HOW to. not even online. i don't know why it's so easy for others but i just don't know how.
this is going to sound fucking pathetic (it is) but i might as well say it. whenever someone is chatting to me and brings up a certain subject i always look in Jow Forums archives for something similar to what they said and see how other people reply and just rephrase what they said to the person im chatting to. i'm so pathetic it hurts.

>if I read [...] books I'll know how to talk to people
Well, as long as it's a good book, yeah. The more you absorb, the more you can then pull out later (i.e. when talking to people).
>acquire [your] own points of view
You already have them by virtue of being a sentient life form. You have opinions. You just need self confidence.
>i can't even properly review stupid stuff like anime or video games without looking at what other people think of it.
Watch a thing. Did you like it? Why? Or why not? There you go. That's your review, with your own opinions (however simple or complex they may be). The need to first see what others say about it is because you have so little confidence in yourself that you seek external validation. You do not believe in yourself, so you look to others to see if you're "right", even in something as small as whether this anime is good or not. (protip, your waifu a shit!)
>being unoriginal in thoughts
don't worry about it. Humans have been around in their current state for bare minimum hundreds of years. You think any of our thoughts are original?

Most people are not alexithymic but merely unintrospective. You're asking them to flex mental muscles they merely never have before. Remember that the average IQ is 100, and then roughly a 1/3 are below that even.

Unless you pulled up this answer from the archives, then you're able to make a post about this, at the very least. Just do that concerning what you think for other topics.

>Remember that the average IQ is 100, and then roughly a 1/3 are below that even.
You don't know how IQ works.

There isn't a "how to." Also, I can understand your desire to contribute information to the conversation, but I'd suggest that if you don't know about something, give the person the opportunity to teach you, lots of people enjoy being able to explain stuff. If I meet someone who is really "in to" something I'm pretty familiar with, I'll often pretend to know LESS than I do, so they get to display their expertise.

Now in the case that you DO know all about something, but can't bring yourself to speak in your own words because you're afraid of sounding dumb, your greatest enemy is yourself. Nobody can "sound smart," just speak normally.

you have wrong expectations user, you clearly want validation from other people/groups. Look at your example, you want to be a part of a group ("Jow Forums" in this case), so you adapt yourself to said group and literally take over their viewpoints. You have to realize that your means (becoming "intelligent") shouldn't be your goal. Try to somehow gain confidence like the other anons suggested. Look deeply into stuff you like and try to form your own opinions

Read. Like books, not Jow Forums.

First step is to write with proper punctuation. Bad spelling makes you look dumber.
Second, read a lot.

Read more. Even (good) fiction will help. Sounding smart is more about being able to string words together eloquently than actually knowing what you're talking about.

It amazes me that all these smart people are so fucking insecure. Fuck all of you.

Reading will certainly help. You'd have to develop strong critical thinking skills to really be smart, though.

In all honesty, if you're trying to sound smart, you're going to fail. Also, who cares if you don't sound smart? I'd rather speak to someone and understand what they're talking about than have to decode their words. Plus, that shit reeks of pretentiousness.

Yes, I do. When they say the average IQ is 100, and then give charts like the attached one, it's not the case that there is a single person who is 100, and then everyone else falls to one side of the line or another. The majority of people sit comfortable at 100, or near enough to be so.

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What? The fuck are you on about? There's tons of shit to be insecure about. Just checking off one box doesn't mean they should all be happy now.

I'm smart enough to know what scares me and not brave enough to face it.

bump cause i have the same issue

It's useless being intelligent. Be smart, not intelligent.
Also, be wise.
If you live your life a lot you must got stories to tell. It doesn't matter how trivial. It can be hobby or anything.
Read more, know more.

You don't want to become smart at all. What you're looking for is charisma, an ability of sounding interesting at whatever topic you talk about. I know really intelligent people who don't seem interesting at first glance because one of the first marks of being smart is that you don't talk about things with certainty, because they understand they don't know even the half of it.

I also know dumb people who can keep you entertained even if they don't know the topic deeply (and if they got to talk with an expert on the topic, the expert would realize in a heartbeat they're just faking it). It's because they are confident and most people don't want to autistically know more than the surface of any given subject.

Basically you want the same thing incels want, social skills. It's hard to learn it as an adult though.

I wonder how people learn growing up? Do they have to actively learn it

I'm in the same boat man, I feel like I didn't used to be like this and I have no idea how this happened. I've done a ton of research on this and I think it really does come down to a confidence/self-esteem issue. I've been working on this a lot, and I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one. Do you ever get that feeling of just not being able to like even think or talk with anyone, even close friends/family? I do and that's the worst part, feeling like I can't be genuine since I don't even know who that is, and feeling like I am just an echo chamber and joke machine. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Any life changes recently? Trying to tell if there are any other commonalities between us.

No one learn how becoming an adult because no one knows how.
It's something that appears after you change gradually by improving yourself as indirect result.
In the same boat also.
My mind is a maze and I keep people out of it. I know I need to let them in but I'm scared to do so.
Put it bluntly it's like..if I meet my doppelganger I wouldn't even tell my secrets. That kind of thing.

read a book read a book read a motherfuckin book

Start with using capital letters.

One simple thing - don't be naive.

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People Grow Up By Stop Playing Video Games

~47% are below 100.
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You’re looking for the WIS stat, not INT.

If you are young, that will pass as you experience more. If you are older practice. Keep in mind only correct practice improves. There are many types of intelligence. The one which you are referring to involves interpreting yourself and the audiance, and the object of said conversation.

Ask yourself, what do I want to talk about, and what do they want to talk about? Proceed with probing questions.

What it sound like you want is feeling like you matter or that you are not inferior. However; looking to others and measuring with them will only cause distortion of your understanding of oneself. You must know yourself before you can hope to have a voice. You also may or may not already cultivated your opinions but don't have words for the abstract feeling that you feel. In this case, write down those things, look at them later, and put those memories into perspective.

In short, know yourself, know others,and be able to say it. Start one on one with someone who makes you comfortable but also has a developed mind and personality. Ask for Input. If social anxiety is the issue, perspective is key, and a good authority figure can demonstrate that to you. After that talk to a close friend or friends to where they know you. Finally, meet new people and Express yourself; take your friends who know you so that they can draw opinions and feelings you want known out to people.

Finally, if you still can't find validation, learn logic as much as you can rather than what appears to those without logic to be logic.

"He sounds so smart! Everything he says ends up being true!" They will exclaim.

There's two things that really helped me develop in this way.
The first was doing a ton of reading over my life and getting a very good grasp of english vocabulary and syntax.
This has already been pointed out in the thread, but in addition I suggest you read things you enjoy, it makes it easier to consume a lot of writing in a short time.

The second, and this may seem counter intuitive, was developing a generic sense of self confidence.
Counter intuitive because you're seeking to expose your perceived inadequacy rather than going away and working on it.
What I find looking back is, before I made a lot of lifestyle changes that gave me confidence, I would brutally self censor in order to avoid exposing opinions I had no confidence supporting, which amounted to avoiding discussions.
And it's not really possible to improve at activities you avoid.