You have no right to make fun of blacks for claiming Egypt when you're equally stupid, for claiming Copts and Ancient Egyptians as white men. In fact, you and the Afrocentrists share the same basic fallacy: assuming that the indigenous people of a massive country that borders multiple races are/were racially homogeneous.
Yes some Copts (Ancient Egyptians' descendents) look Mediterranean. But this is a minority of a minority (no Copts in Middle or Upper Egypt pass as white--only some in Lower Egypt, most of whom look brown).
Posting a picture of Rami Malek (who has a Greek grandparent, btw) for your argument that Ancient Egyptians were white is as stupid as me posting pic related of a Copt from southern Egypt to claim they're all black. Same with posting the study of Ancient Egyptians **from the north** showing they were more closely related to Europeans than blacks (or even black-admixed modern Egyptians). Even this study showed northern Egyptians were much closer to Arabs (including Saudis) than whites, and Upper/Middle Egyptians are going to be a lot less white than them.
No there is no difference. You could kind of sort of argue Egyptians from the far north (the Delta) are white; although this is a stretch they are much closer to white than black. But you could make the same argument about southern Egyptians being black.
Your arguments are exactly the same.
Tyler Richardson
>Your arguments are exactly the same. And as I said are based on the same fallacy: assuming that the indigenous people of a massive country that borders multiple races are/were racially homogeneous.
Julian Hill
Made the thread again! See you tomorrow
James Miller
>Made the thread again! Stop arguing like afrocentrists and I will stop making it. It's extremely cringe worthy to post a picture of a Copt from Alexandria as if it's representative of all Egyptians. Pic related is a Copt from Middle Egypt.
Liee all legendary civilizations they originated as white, became decadent and thus eventually the brown hordes move in and larp as if they created it
Mason Wood
>Except the Kangs have European dna Nah that's just an Afrocentrist tier fabrication..
There has been one serious study on the Kangs. This was limited to Kangs from the far north of Egypt. It found a relation to Med Europeans (of course, because geography). But a much closer relationship to Arabs.
" A 2017 genetic study of 83 mummies from northern Egypt (buried near modern-day Cairo), which constituted "the first reliable data set obtained from ancient Egyptians using high-throughput DNA sequencing methods," showed that these persons were most closely related to the diverse modern populations of what is now the Arab world, particularly the southern Levant and Arabia, while also indicating smaller affinities to the neighboring southeastern European and sub-Saharan African (Nubian) populations. Though the mummies were much more closely related to Arab populations than European, they were actually slightly more closely related to southeastern Europeans than modern Egyptians, a fact publicized in the press coverage of the study; the genetic distance between Ancient and modern Egyptians reflects the much greater level of sub-Saharan African ancestry in modern Egyptians, who are heavily mixed with sub-Saharan Africans, and may also stem from a faulty comparison on the part of the study's authors, who compared Lower (northern) Egyptian mummies to the average genetic composition of all contemporary Egyptians (from both Upper and Lower Egypt)."
Told you before you ignorant presumptuous fool, each dynasty was very long and each dynasty was ruled by different people. Deal with it.
Jordan Scott
You're a retard who knows nothing about the relevant history. Again
Egyptians frequently dyed their hair and fetishized colored eyes. But Herodotus (and all other contemporaneous sources) depicts the average Egyptian as light-to-dark brown skinned with black wooly hair. There were exceptions (including apparently Ramses II) because it was a mixed population. But most of the people you're listing were not light eyed or light haired naturally.
Kevin Murphy
Multiple DNA studies support the claim. Average is not the same as royalty. Deal with it.
You do realize white Egypt is a meme right? Nobody believes it. It’s sole purpose is to poke fun at black Egypt. Which is equally as ridiculous. Get it?
Jackson Mitchell
Dude I literally posted a summary of that study. The problem with using the study to make extrapolations about Ancient Egypt is that the study was limited to northern Egyptian mummies, as the authors emphasized.
Let me repost it again for you:
"" A 2017 genetic study of 83 mummies from northern Egypt (buried near modern-day Cairo), which constituted "the first reliable data set obtained from ancient Egyptians using high-throughput DNA sequencing methods," showed that these persons were most closely related to the diverse modern populations of what is now the Arab world, particularly the southern Levant and Arabia, while also indicating smaller affinities to the neighboring southeastern European and sub-Saharan African (Nubian) populations. Though the mummies were much more closely related to Arab populations than European, they were actually slightly more closely related to southeastern Europeans than modern Egyptians, a fact publicized in the press coverage of the study; the genetic distance between Ancient and modern Egyptians reflects the much greater level of sub-Saharan African ancestry in modern Egyptians, who are heavily mixed with sub-Saharan Africans, and may also stem from a faulty comparison on the part of the study's authors, who compared Lower (northern) Egyptian mummies to the average genetic composition of all contemporary Egyptians (from both Upper and Lower Egypt)."
Who doubts that people indigenous to the Delta, near the Med sea, had/have a genetic relationship to southern Europeans btw? So do all Arabs.
Still, the mummies were closer to Arabs than Europeans.
Liam Parker
And again posting this study is completely unresponsive to my point that they varied from north to south. They still vary today massively from north to south. Compare Copts from northern Egypt (Rami Malek DIna Powell) to Copts from Middle or Upper Egypt like pic related.
Thank you for the clarification. It seems I was misinformed.
Logan Robinson
What pisses me off about the issue is that is isn't that complicated. It's entirely common sensical. Of course people who descended near the Med Sea would not have been "black" and--though it may be a stretch to call them white--will be related to southeastern European populations. But people who descended near the border with Sudan are going to be a lot darker skinned. These are all Egyptians and this great phenotypic diversity is evident today among them, from north to south.
Jaxson Peterson
You are right, data is data whether we like it or not and I failed to look into it deep enough.
