Employer can fire you for any reason at any time

As if the stacies there won't say the truth because since their boss doesn't like you for leaving. Even if not their attitude will be apparent.

If that's a serious job there's often a severance package of some kind. Plus your pay might be delayed by a few weeks already.

>expects
So? Why are you crying?

People ALWAYS ASK for more than they will settle for.

That's not true at all

Yes it is.

This guy gets it. Plus in my state, if you turn in your 2 weeks and they tell you to not worry about fulfilling it and to just go, they have to pay you for the 2 weeks anyway

Hiring manager will ask for references dipshit. Nothing to stop the reference from telling that you left them in a tough spot

Yes it is. That's why a lot of jobs will ask for a few non work related references too because those laws dont apply there and they can ask them anything

That's why you don't walk out on a job you expect to use as a reference

Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

Probably because people just steal shit in their last two weeks, easier for the company to tell them to just fuck off instead. Last place I worked for had $1000 go "missing" right after this guy gave his two weeks. Cops were called and everything, but nothing could be proved. A month later I saw on faceberg the kid bought a car. Not suspicious at all.

Which state is that???

To be a little less murky here, no there isn't a law against it, but if there is anything negative disclosed it gives you legal reason to sue them and let the court decide if it was factual or not. Most employers view this as a risk not worth taking

>expects two weeks notice when you leave
Just murder your boss and its family then burn down the business and the bosses home if you want to change jobs.

>1000$
>bought a car
Probably from his salary for his new job.
In my last four weeks also disappeared many things, the boss thought it was me, till he found it in the toolbox of other people, who thought they could "borrow" it.

that's why you, gasp, pick which people you give as references

>americans can simply "fire" employees

lmao

I'm pretty sure there is a difference between verification and a reference check, especially since you usually give your consent to do so.

In Canada you can ask HR for dates, status but you can also ask the manager if he was a good employee. I just think the later requires authorisation.

>but you can also ask the manager if he was a good employee.
I think that opens it up to way too much subjectivity, I think in some states the most you can ask is "Would you re-hire this person?"

>pay people slavecuck wages and treat them like dogs
>modern technology outpaces the old ways of business
>shocked when they jump ship for something better

AHAHA GET FUCKED BOOMERS

Except it ain’t true. After the probationary period one must show cause for firing. This can be difficult or easy. Firing someone for being a shit employee is difficult. Firing them for refusing to work in the Antarctica Branch is easy.

Actually there is a law against it. Former employers can legally only give your to-from dates and the reason given why you left/were terminated. If they weren't given a reason, they can't just make shit up and they can't discuss how you were as an employee.

but man, they always give a months notice when you terminate the contract, the only way to fire you right away is for gross misconduct, like if you kill somebody on the job or something. A-at least thats how it is here baka...

Unless you have a job in line it gives you a bad reputation if a future employer calls places based on your background check.

you can boycot your own people but not israelis

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i think they can ask if you're eligible for rehire as well

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It absolutely is true. If they say anymore they can be sued. They don’t even contacts recent employers anymore because of this.

no, they're "ghosting" employers because they're shitty people.
what kind of scum bags did gen x raise?

thebalancecareers.com/what-can-employers-say-about-former-employees-2059608

I don't know how they got the info, but my HR department has advised me to not hire somebody because they gave less than 2 weeks notice before

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it is against the law in the UK to provide a negative reference I think. you can just refuse to offer reference which is a red flag but you are not supposed to badmouth ex employees. Still happens though.

We are truly goyim cattle. A teacher lost her job because she wouldn’t pledge allegiance to Israel.

this is also for retard work, no professional acts like this

what the fuck, of course they do have to pay the 2 weeks even if they want to not go to work the last 2 weeks, and vice versa, if they need you and you dont go to work you owe them money. Since its 1 month here, if you want to quit on the spot and start at a new place, its common practice for the new place to pay the full 1 month compensation to your current employer.

Fitting

I live in a right to work state. The joke is they can fire you for “just cause” - meaning “just because they want to”

>when they contact them.
This never ever happens. I know because for the past 10 years or so I've put fake reference numbers that connect to my Google voice account.

>walk out of engineering job on Friday
>walk into another one on Monday with 20% pay increase
>muh professionalism!

Lmao. Wagies that make the company their life are so funny. Best part is the lifers end up getting paid less than job hoppers - literal cucks.

Yes, and fuck you

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Worked for the company before?

Actually, there is not. Employers choose to give dates, because they can be sued for giving a good reference for someone who turns out to be a bad fit, and they can be sued for giving a negative reference. Most employers choose to not take the risk, and give only dates worked and position. If the law you mention exists, please provide citation.

I've quit every previous job without notice. Every time it was due to some cunt supervisor/manager. I have a low tolerance for cunts. That never stopped me from getting another job. Matter of fact, I've gotten every job I ever applied for.

Nice.

Did they check references at all? How long were you at the old job?

I’ve almost been at my job a year and I really want to leave.

Subway aint gonna call bro

They have ways around this. If all they volunteer is position and hire dates, it means you sucked. If you were good, they will sing your praises, because nobody complains about that.

True. Much of the time they will just let you leave immediately, figuring you will be worthless as a worker at best, or sabotaging/undermining morale of the people still there.

You don't HAVE to give 2 weeks. It's just a courtesy if you're leaving on good terms and want a recommendation from them. Naturally if you get fired this doesn't apply.

the first picture in under "socialism" is from Detroit.
The second picture under "Has never been tried" is a migrant caravane in Europe (The import of Labour is a cornerstone of Capitalism - not socialism).

>literally normalized slavery
>its not right to leave your slavemaster when he needs you
day of the rake

Maybe in your state, but in Maryland they can fire you for literally no reason other "we didn't like you". It's happened to numerous friends of mine.

>2 weeks
My company wants 4 weeks notice. Gonna make switching jobs hard in the future.

I turned in a 2 week notice to my boomer boss. he fired me the next day and I lost 2 weeks of pay. Fuck notice . If I had just disappeared in 2 weeks I'd have that paycheck

Both Detroit and Europe are ailing because of social policies aka socialism

>detroit failing cuz social policies

Hmmm... I believe you're missing a major factor there, faggot.

No, Our capitalistic system have people as a commodity (Labour), there is no distinction between an unskilled worker from Somalia and a native.
just like countries import goods from other countries, then they also import Labour, this is how our economy works, gradually changing the fabric of our society (the culture/people that constitute the society) in order to fuel our economy.

furthermore, capitalistic economies thrive with a high unemployment rate, as it equals cheaper Labour, and a larger potential Labour pool. A high unemployment rate is bad for society, but good for our economy, and i think the balance between these two diverging interest, has been skewed, because the "money" in our society has a voice that outweight the long term interest of society as a whole.

In what way is it like slavery?

>employer can fire you for any reason at any time
Only if you live in a third world shithole.

Hell. it just happened to me. I had been at the place for a year and a half, received a very favorable review in July, and last Monday my boss came in, said that the company was having a tough time financially, and he needed to cut costs. I was the highest paid person in administration, and he could either cut 2 lower level jobs, or me. He said that it had nothing to do with my work, he just couldn't afford to keep me.

Unironically did this on monday. Thought about giving 2 weeks notice, but from everything i can collect online, you try to put in 2 weeks notice like a polite professional and they fire you on the spot. It's a shame it has to be like this, it is. But employers created this problem. There is no rational reason for an employee to ever put in 2 weeks.
If you wanted to stop this, simply write in a law that says, if an employee puts in 2 weeks, they cannot be fired in retaliation. Just put in legislature like that and the problem would be solved. Otherwise the no-call no-show will continue.
I already have calls about other jobs. I'll have a new one by Christmas.
Kek, it takes them a month to set up a new employee just to get system access, and right now they're swamped in year end close and on tight deadlines. I expect the entire department will have to pull constant overtime the rest of the year to make up for my leaving. I did massive quantities of work every single day.
To be fair I did try to remediate my primary issue with them and they refused to even think about concessions. Which would have, A, cost them nothing, B, both made me more productive and more satisfied, and C, they already offer to other employees. They want to treat productivity tools as exclusive good goy points, they can fuck off to hell.
And if they don't meet their year end deadline, which they probably won't, the CFO will come and have a talk with that cunt manager and she'll get her ass axed. Get absolutely rekt, you little bitch.

>not working at somewhere that has a severance pay
Most companies even my side wagecuck job gives almost everyone a two weeks pay after they’ve been let go. Unless you were arrested and convicted of a serious crime(shit the even let ya keep working with misdeamenors) you’ll get at least two weeks pension

Had a job working in an industrial laundry facility not too long ago and came to this exact same realization myself.
I worked my fucking ass off 12 hours a day in a warehouse in blistering heat because there was no AC and I could t turn the fan on because the dust was so thick that you’d choke to death if you did. Not to mention my coworkers had a habit of flirting with any trashy meathole that happened to sign their employment contract that day (only to quit that night) which left me alone in front of a hot ass fucking iron pressing sheets.
One day a lead decided flirting was more important than unlocking the break room so the crew could have lunch, and like four of us just walked out.
They probably ended up working until like 1 am that day.

last time I visited russia I thought it was hyper capitalistic
nothing works without money
you need to pay everyone for everything

>wanna cross border to visit - give money
>wanna get the room you already paid for - give money
>wanna get a table at the restaurant - give money
>wanna walk down street - give money
I was there with a russian friend, so I didn't have to pay nearly as much as I would have alone, but still
if you don't hand over cash here and there everyone is very sluggish and bothered

>you owe them money.
*hand rubbing intensifies*
Based. You know, I should put my cousin as the reference and have him pretend to be the manager at X Corp.
This. Every time I job hop I get a raise. When I stay with the same company I never get a raise.
Logic dictates I job hop.
Employers being megakikes caused this, never forget that.
This I think. I've had some lousy job break-ups before and still get rehired easily, either they aren't checking references or the references are sterilised. There's no reason an employer would stick their own neck out to help a competitor with their hiring decision.
Hell if I was that company, I'd give a great reference about a trainwreck so they could get hired and drag my competitor down. Assuming no legal ramifications exist, which they probably do.
The whole "muh bad reference" sounds like a boogeyman they try to scare you with to keep you in line.
>they will sing your praises
What is in it for a company to help their own competitor out with hiring decisions? Explain that you bootlicker. You literally cannot.

Same happened to me as a sparky. Never give notice if it was not a great job.

Has happened to me. "You're not a good fit at this company." I asked about my work, they said there was no issue with my work performance at all. That happened while I was ill and had been miserable-looking and could barely speak for several weeks, I think they assumed I was being a jackass with a bad attitude. But like I said, found a new job quickly and got a raise.
Exactly.
Most jobs ask if you're available immediately and if you aren't they don't want you. You cannot get a new job while giving notice like that.
Yep, happened to me before. There is zero loyalty to employees, so they can't expect us to be bootlicking lapdogs for the companies after this became the norm. Two way street.
Zoomers and mils are just reacting to the preexisting situation.

Not giving two weeks then getting begged to do so and training your replacement who will definitely not be able to fill your shoes is the best feeling.

>"u-u-uh user so two weeks are up user have you reconsidered?"
>No.

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this is kinda old but it was a great read when i first saw it.

the one HR rep was talking about not receiving thank you letters after the person declined the position. lmao when was the last time an HR rep sent a thank you.

>t. wagecuck for life

friends who people don't like

found the laborer

I work as Sys/Net admin. I walked out of my last job. I also saved all the photos of my retard boss and hookers he’d saved on the company server. I walked into his office and told him to write me a good reference and give me 40k or I’d show them to his wife.
Next day he personally delivered my letter and cash.
Fuck your boss, fuck’em hard

It’s different here. It can be dodger as fuck firing people. We have to give warnings and have meetings and do inquiries and all kinds of bollocks unless it’s a cut and dry case.
We just made most of the staff of the biggest company my boss owns redundant last week. That was a laugh. Merry Christmas you incompetent bunch of fuck ups now beat it:

3:30 - beer time. Want to come with me to look inside my beer caravan? Check this in a minute.

Unless it’s for cause you get unemployment income.

>you try to put in 2 weeks notice like a polite professional and they fire you on the spot
Just asking because I don't know the american law in this regard: What do they gain by doing this?
If I put in my 30 days notice, or just quit on the spot, then I lose all future approval for social benefits, until I get a new job.
If I put in my 30 days notice, get fired in retaliation, then I have full approval for social benefits.

It’s not by law but by good policy since they don’t want to be sued. Other employers are another matter altogether.

weeks
>My company wants 4 weeks notice. Gonna make switching jobs hard in the future.
3 months over here, it's bad

Human Resources are the least Human of us all.

Really? Walmart expects me to give them a months notice if I were to ever leave (which will unfortunately never happen), due to my PTO pay being held hostage (currently at 220 hours x $14). That's $2.4k in net pay I would be losing out on. I highly fucking doubt that any future employer would wait an entire month for my dumb ass

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I started a job last week and have been training all this time. I go to meet my department today. Tomorrow I am calling in sick to fly out for an interview. If I get this new job do I still have to provide a notice if I have only been at this one for 2 weeks?

This is the advice that will help people tremendously. Acting like a nigger or an asshole doesn't benefit you in any way guys, so why the fuck do you choose to do it? My previous bosses wrote my LoRs for the military because of how I conducted myself, and that sure as fuck beats getting them from friends

It’s wrecked. Someone’s had it moved from behind my dog cabin because of muh view but nobody’s thought of securing anything in it. Still fuck it. As long as it has beer in it it’s all good. I’m unfirable. You know that when you’ve got a caravan full of ale for yourself at work.

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>stacy
>hr
Kek, know how I know you dont work? Anyway, if that happens, then you file a suit or some shit. Its the USA

3 months here as well.

No one is talking about Canada.
Rake yourself immediately.

Walmart looks so depressing to work at.

>What do they gain by doing this?
some cunt gets to powertrip for 5 minutes. Literally that's it. What? I don't know. Nothing corporations do makes sense from a modern tech-driven perspective. 90% of people in any given office are god damned useless paper-pushers and probably cost 70k plus benefits. We spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on IRL business meetings and trips to have a meeting in some 5 star hotel somewhere else when skype exists. we pay do-nothing head honchos incredible sums of money when they don't know how to turn on a computer and just bullshit with people in their private office all day. The grunts who actually do all the fucking work get paid shit and treated like shit. It's an enormous circle of ego-jerking where you go through 10 years of being treated like shit so you can be the senior and get to treat other people like shit. It's cancer, and office slaves are all human cancer. The business structure, by logic, has been designed for the primary purpose of jacking off the ego of sociopaths. Very little business gets done.
We had, for example, a guy whose only job it was, was to convert currencies, like bongbux to american. Which any asshat could do with a calculator software in 5 seconds had we such a tool at hand. That's all. And things had to wait until he got around to it. Most people seem to do nothing but walk around and chat with people about their dogs. We have 10 different people in any given chain of approval just to pay recurring monthly bills like the electric bill. We have convoluted systems designed to keep the people who have been working there for 10 years in their job.
Why?
Why anything? I could write programs to automate 80% of office jobs, and someone better than me could nail another 10% of them.
>social benefits
We don't have those.
>why
Let me throw my hands in the air. You think businesses are this intimidating well oiled machine full of genius negotiators. They're not. It's a gerbil wheel.

I don’t get two weeks notice if I’m gonna be fired, why do they get it?

No wonder all my money that doesn't go to bills goes towards alcohol and pills

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