Is there any point to nofap? Looking for rigorous scientific arguments...

Is there any point to nofap? Looking for rigorous scientific arguments. As an incel fapping is (and probably always will be) my only method for getting off so I really want to only have to stop with a good reason.

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What the fuck did you just hit puberty or something?

It's normal, it's healthy, don't worry about it.

Is it interfering with your life/eating up all your free time?

Yes- Then stop, because it's interfering with your life, and there's better, more constructive things to do with your time

No - Fap away.

I wouldn't bother with it, you don't have the discipline. Plus the more zombified beta males there are out there the better it is for real men.

Give a good reason for it or fuck off.

All what nofap does is giving you free prostate cancer or stained bed + pajamas from wet dreams. Male body produces nonstop sperm. And no, body cant "reabsorb" it. It has to go out in same fashion as pee or poop.

What you want instead is called noporn. Feel free to fap, but with closed eyes on bed. Yes it is boring. That is a good thing: it actually motivates you to hit on girls and dont give you false view on average sex session or how female bodies looks like.

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Do your own research. Don't be lazy. There's literally thousands of videos about people doing it on YouTube. The positive effect it has had on men's lives is all the proof I needed. I tried it and I'm never looking back.

Sometimes being harsh is a good motivator. You have nothing to lose, dude.

There are thousands of videos on YouTube about the world being flat as well. Maybe that's not the most reliable source.

You are literally draining your body of key nutrients and litera building blocks of life itself when you chronically masturbate.
You’re asking me is there any point in not directly sapping your own state of well being?
No, that’s not what you’re asking, because you already know the answer to that. What you’re asking me to do is dismantle your defensive posture towards deciding not to masturbate, and somehow convince you not to attempt to justify your past decisions & adjust your outlook. The science is fucking out there, and if u really wanted that, u would go looking for that.
But you’re not.
And you’re just tossing a meme label of ‘no fap’ over it to help keep yourself right where you are, in denial. But clearly not a blissful denial.

You forgot the quotes around "science".

You’re such a faggot.
Don’t (You) anyone else for the remainder of this year.

Nofap has had results for pretty much everyone who tried, as anecdotal evidence clearly shows.
Everyone who tried nofap for more than 3 weeks can tell you.
I, for one, still fap sometime, maybe once a week or so, but the REAL redpill is noporn. Noporn has scientific evidence that it does good to the male brain. You should try that first, as with noporn nofap comes almost naturally.

Fair enough. Nobody is asking you join a cult...Just stop playing with your dick for as long as you can as see what happens. It's just one of those things you have to try for yourself. Stop being the typical over analytical Debby downer.

Or you can continue to not have energy, interest in real women, motivation, true happiness, and not experience what it feels like to be in your natural state.

There's no excuse to be an incel, tinder exists and it's 2018. Just fuck some sluts.

Oh no, the guy that believes in the magical powers of not masturbating called me a faggot. Guess I'd better just kill myself now because I hold his opinion in such high regard.

But I have all those things, AND I still jerk off. So what am I getting out of it?

>haha i will nEVER stop masturbating and anyone who advises i should try it is crazy also i am totality not in denial

Good for u user.

Tinder doesn't work for average men. Period.

Discipline and self worth. At the very least, it's ditching a loser habit that's similar to doing drugs.

Average men fap..

Fuck women in your own league, men have lower value so adjust accordingly. Go out with some ugly sluts.

Some of us are actually doing just fine in our lives, and don't actually have to worry about masturbation fucking it all up.

Unless you're telling me I'll get superpowers. I would totally stop jerking off for superpowers.

no. im not attracted to fat, ugly dykes, and i would rather be a virgin than "settle". it's the same reasoning that retards men into thinking marriage is in any way a good thing, because the sluts were so generous as to bless them with pussy.

Not sure if you noticed, but I have a pretty good sense of self worth.

Why are you personally against other people not masturbaiting and what personal benefit(s) are you getting from trying to have other guys masturbate?

Why bother trying to convince any of these complacent degenerates who would rather pleasure themselves than progress themselves.

Or run of the mill internet bravado. You're confusing self worth with self love. We already know about your self love.

Boy, you sound like a catch.
You're going to be a virgin your entire life with that attitude.

MGTOW confirmed.

Not against it. If you don't want to, that's fine. I hate bullshit pseudoscience and those that try to peddle it to others as gospel truth.

Why do you care so much about guys masturbating and getting them to stop?

I do love me some me.

rather that than enslaved by some worthless dyke.

what?

>fucking an obese goblina and raising a tyrone on the side
>a-a-at least I can't g-get called a virgin on the internet!!

>personally

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This. I'm a million fucking years old and I grew up without the internet, which means that I grew up without porn. When I was a kid I would just beat off when my boner got in the way of me doing my homework or taking a shit or going to sleep or whatever.

Then when we got the internet at home it was all downhill from there. I beat off more as like a 20 year old than I did when I was 13 or whatever. The more porn I watched the less confidence and motivation I had to get laid again.

I quit porn ages ago, more or less, and I've been able to get laid again.

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I didn't really understand this when I was younger but IMO nofap is based on the idea that masturbation can become an avoidant habit for some people. Instead of pursuing a productive or meaningful activity, you resort to fapping.

So I'm not sure if you know what a lesbian is, but I don't think you have too worry too much about marrying one.

Is there a way to delete your sexuality?

I never even hinted at my views either way. Addicts, its that clearly have a problem. I think daily is a addition but three times a day unquestionably is addiction and this may help them.
Why do you want them to stay addicted?

I'd rather them get actual help with their addiction and address the underlying issues that led to their addiction in the first place.

But nice job, you got like three logical fallacies going there all at once.

Just because fapping every day is bad, doesn't mean that the other extreme of not fapping at all is good.

I'm not a doctor, but most stuff I've read about it comes down to: twice per week is healthy, more than that not so much.
I've tried no fap once too, didn't touch myself for 8 months. And I admit that not doing it at all is easier than doing it in moderation. The absolute rule "no! don't do it!" is just easier to follow than a unsteady "don't do it too much".

Maybe something like "Only fap on holidays" would be a good alternative to nofap.

Scientific arguments matter less than you'd think, I did it and I got a huge boost to my psyche and masculinity that lasted after I stopped.

I have a high sex drive and I still went over 90 days with zero wet dreams

I agree. I only have wet dreams when I fapped on the day before. Sperm is not pee one is trying to hold in. If you don't have sexual thoughts during the day you also don't dream about it.

I had lots of sexual thoughts during nofap but it was different, less fleshy. I just felt filled with masculine power.

I don't know what "masculine power" is but, yes, sperm contains nutrients which your body can also keep and put to good use for other things.

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Congrats then you are in risk for getting prostate cancer. Feel free to ignore your plumbing, what worst could happen?

I'm pretty sure this whole "no-fap" actually started as "no-porn" since there are tons of theories about how porn is ruining men's mental health and some of those are actually based on evidence. The "no-porn" movement even encourages you to fap as long as you use your imagination instead of porn.

tl; dr no-fap is a meme, no-porn is the real deal.

nofap is pointless
noporn is good for the mind and your hormones

No fap is a meme, fap at least once per week. Overfapping will lead to ED ( inability to get off during normal sex ).

There are lots of medications for lowering your sex drive

so if a guy is fucking lots of chicks he's draining his body of key nutrients too? What's the difference between some guy having a """healthy""" sex life and another just jerking off? The mechanism is the same.

how much fap is overfap?

Just don't over do it mate.

When you do it so much you get ED.

>rigorous scientific arguments
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Look at the nofap subreddit. They have the greatest supporting evidence available i.e. anecdotal and broscience.

>"Convince me"
>N-no, convince yourself. Why should I have to give evidence or reasoning for my own theory?

If you rather they get actual help provide alternatives instead of whining about it being pseudo-science or you're just lying.
>But nice job, you got like three logical fallacies going there all at once.
Well then its good this is a casual conversation on Jow Forums and not a formal debate, sperg.

If you're seriously addicted. It's more ideal to do noporn and find a way to deal with sex drive more healthily (exercise, go after girls, hire a hooker, see a therapist, etc.).