29 Currently on JSA Qualifications - Maths BSc (Hons) 2.2 About £300 in the bank.
People don't give me straight answers on anything and I'm confused on what to do now. The cunts at the job centre said they're only willing to pay for courses if they guarantee employment. Asking the few (flaky) people I know, and they all give different answers every time while all agreeing that I should do something in IT.
SQL, CompTIA, learning java are the few suggestions they gave me.
Start at help desk I with no qualifications. Work well and get promoted to help desk II and III.
Meanwhile, get your A+, Network+ and any other certificates you're interested in. Then ask for a transfer to the Systems Administration team as a junior. Work well there and get promoted. You'll be making decent wage in a nice job.
Carson Sanchez
The Job Centre is for untrained people looking for untrained jobs. You should be applying directly to companies looking for people with your qualifications.
How to do that is too long for right now. Go back to your uni and get help from their help-you-get-a-job office
Adam Ward
I'm on the last 3 chapters of a java book I was learning, should I just drop it?
Ryder Wright
>back to your uni It's been 7 years.
Kayden Watson
Bumping.
Jaxon Gray
Don't leave me hanging.
Connor Martinez
You have an honors in Math?
If you're really really good at math, I'm pretty sure Jane Street has a London office. Look at Two Sigma too.
Otherwise just work at a regular bank doing modeling predictions or whatever. Barclays, maybe. Might need to pick up some basic python.
Ayden Rogers
>If you're really really good at math
I don't remember shit, I had a look at my cryptography module courseworks and it looks like gobbledygook. Besides it's a 2.2.
Are you being too picky with jobs? What do you want to do / not do?
David Flores
>Are you being too picky with jobs? Right now I'm applying for pleb-tier jobs and getting rejected from them. And before you ask, I have 4 years of supermarket pleb experience. I got fired in a roundabout way at the beginning of the year. Fucked all the plans I had.
>What do you want to do / not do? Something in IT, apparently it should be easier to get into anything else, according to people I've asked.
Eli Sullivan
You're overqualified for pleb jobs & better than that.
There are plenty of data heavy jobs in London that would love your analytical skills. Submit your CV to recruitment agencies & get some feedback. The job centre isn't very good for you.
Nicholas Hernandez
>Submit your CV to recruitment agencies & get some feedback.
Got any specific ones in mind?
Mason Howard
Literally go onto Indeed / Totaljobs and apply for every single job. Eventually you'll get recruiters from those agencies getting in touch.
Get a LinkedIn too.
Brayden Reed
>Literally go onto Indeed / Totaljobs and apply for every single job. Eventually you'll get recruiters from those agencies getting in touch.
Really? I've just been applying to pleb-tier jobs through that. And what about my IT learning, I was kind of enjoying studying till I learnt that I got fired 3 months after the fact.
Justin Roberts
This.
If you have no IT degree/experience and you do want to get into the field while you are working on learning to code or whatever, go into software testing / quality assurance. It doesn't take much technical knowledge but you will end up sitting next to developers and generally working 'in the field' so transitioning to a different IT job will be easy.
Asher Myers
>Really? I've just been applying to pleb-tier jobs through that.
Really. Make sure your CV is good and keep sending it.
>And what about my IT learning,
Then continue doing it, complete it & mention it on your CV
Jackson Ross
Get into the Civil Service.
Ian Richardson
Did you get an actual career that way?
John Russell
Define actual career.
Nicholas Gomez
Decent pay, decent progression, a career you're not embarrassed to tell people especially since you/I went to uni.
Right now, I'm sustaining myself on everyday value tesco canned foods and frozen ready meals.
Noah Rogers
I'm in Scotland so things will probably be different for you in London. Basic Admin Officer salary is £22,000, dunno how things are in other places but my office is meant to be really good for development and moving between teams so you can go into IT if you want to. Know someone who was there 4 years and got a promotion from the basic grade meaning a salary increase to £27,000. Also you get flexitime and banging holiday entitlements.
Ryder James
>holiday entitlements. I haven't had a holiday in years, maybe more than a decade.
Jaxson Davis
It's been 7 years, might as well not try right?
SQL alone isn't enough for a job. Java might be, but really hard without a degree and it doesn't sound like you want to work really hard. I would stick to plain ol IT, not software development. It won't pay as great, but it's easier.
Matthew Lewis
>have a degree (lower second class) in maths >no mention of previous job experience >friends say I should do IT and suggest entry level courses like Comptia which might get me a £13k a year job
Can't you teach maths or something?
Aiden Gomez
>Get a LinkedIn too. Literally nobody looks at linkedin unless they are trying to stalk a QT from admin
Tyler Bailey
There's roughly 16,000,000 people with honours degrees in the UK and Two Sigma has 1,200 employees. There's lots of jobs for anyone that brushes up their skills a bit, but I don't know what's up with the narrow focus on those two companies.
Julian Turner
Not sure what industry you're in, but in software development linkedin is very widely used. I've actually gotten an interview without applying or anything with microsoft because of my linkedin.
Lucas Robinson
>Can't you teach maths? God no.
>There's lots of jobs for anyone that brushes up their skills a bit Can you be a bit more specific?
>but really hard without a degree So my maths degree counts for nothing? You know, for the past 2 years, I've kinda come to the realisation that networking was probably the main purpose of uni. Hell, even joining the anime club would've been something.
>it doesn't sound like you want to work really hard. How did you infer that?
Matthew Perry
Not OP, but I graduated in Information Technology witb honors, but have been having trouble hearing back from some entry level jobs. What should I be doing in order to get a help desk or tech support entry job to get my foot in the door?
Michael Wright
Bump
Andrew Sanders
OP you've been given shit advice
First of all, >SQL >CompTIA >Java
These are three wildly different career paths in tech. Java is programming. CompTIA is IT. SQL is database management. You're a math major, but you have a bachelor's, so god knows whether you're actually good at math.
Database management isn't a bad way to go but it's super autistic. You got to be a certain kind of dysfunctional to make a career in it.
As far as IT, that's a lot more broad, if you're a 4channer you have potential but you also have to consider specialization. I'm a networking guy, which is a great way to go because networking has been neglected for the past 10 years in favor of SysAdmins and a lot of the old school networking dudes are retiring. Don't get fucking CompTIA though, A+, Network+, Sec+, that shit is useless. In general you want to go for platform specific certs, particularly cisco certs. Cisco is the gold standard and they make their shit the hardest to keep their clout. HP/Aruba are good paths to go too; and if you're more interested in systems administrations you have to decide on a platform. It's Microsoft or Linux, and it depends on where you're at, honestly. I don't know what the UK much less London prefers. Keep in mind though, sysadmins are heavily cloud dependent nowadays. Exchange servers? Forget about it. AD is getting cloud based. Office management, fuck yeah that's cloud based. You're well off learning hypervisors and resource management and trying to get into an industry that's unable to get into cloud infrastructure because of govt regs, or just being a cloud specialist which is way less technical but more salesmanship.
Then, you have programming. This is your best bet as a math major but fucking highly hit-or-miss. You can get on a team of well-intentioned indians that know fuck all, a startup that's going nowhere, or a low-level development team that's going places. Either way you have to be kind of a pussy to do devops. Good luck faggot
Matthew Bell
I am I was thinking of trying to eventually get into a database management job, but I guess networking is a better alternative. What are some good entry level jobs that are related to networking?
Owen Wood
>don't listen to them, listen to me This is kind of want I mean, everyone seems to give wildly different advice, even inside this thread.
Chase Nguyen
OP your problem is laziness. Re-frame your question. Ask yourself "How can I stop being lazy?"
James Cooper
>"How can I stop being lazy?" That's arguable but it's kind of hard to do anything without motivation (or decent friends), a job or a somewhat direct path with attainable goals. While my wageslave job dulled my senses at least I had people to talk to, now all I have is Jow Forums and some flaky friends.
Henry Reed
So far what I've gleaned from this thread:
>Apply to every suitable job on indeed and such as and recruiters will come for me >Apply for QA jobs >Civil Service >Get a LinkedIn >Don't get a LinkedIn >CompTIA is useless >Programming is very hit-or-miss
>Database management isn't a bad way to go but it's super autistic. You got to be a certain kind of dysfunctional to make a career in it. I know a dude who says he might be able to get me into his company where he works with SQL but my lack of anything really is preventing him from doing that.
Jackson Ortiz
Bumpin
Isaiah Foster
Come on, look I drop £100 in steam codes if I get something decent.
