Dow falls bellow 23k

The market dip is nothing more than profit taking before the new tax law goes into effect. The shilling is out of control. now is the time to look for deals in the market.

Good the market is returning to normal. No one gives a fuck besides pedophile kikes and old WASP money.

The kikes were never going to let Trump run in 2020 with a strong economy. People vote based on the state of the economy. (((They))) are too easy to predict.

these digits tho...

just stop. its pathetic.

Deadcat bounce incoming. Otherwise yes it is all over by the time of brexit.

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People like Ron Paul are losing their shit right now. I have a feeling it's happening. (((They))) probably want to crash the economy under Trump

>still well above 22K
Sure.

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Yeah, in Israel

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>What was the plan from the beginning
Did you think Trump actually won?

what happened to deutch bank

Yeah, and not too long ago it was almost at 27k. Its fallen ~3,000 points since the beginning of this month.

>its okay goyim, we're not entering a recession.

BUY BUY BUY

This is peak mental illness.

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la la la la
la la la la la la

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I’ve got 1/2 my loot on the sidelines. What’s a realistic entry point to s&p?

shifting the blame to the fed is actually very easy.
pressure on inflation is way down due to the declining oil prices
many economists and investors were surprised at how the fed won't cool it a little, that is why the stocks plummeted these past 2 days.

it's literally his fault, the bigger the bang the bigger the bust. donnie shot all his load at once..arms deal with sa, tax cuts for buybacks..imagine creating a scenario where markets get inflated and popped..I start to think some of his friends hold a lot of shorts..also did you know russia is literally hoarding gold since a few years? the are pretty happy right now.
the mud FED talk is retarded, I watched the first rate hikes live, there had been times when it rose after a quick dip because
>priced in
>for quite some time
>if you aren't retarded

when it drops to 500 points

forgot pic

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Sounds about right. Thanks for backing it up with that chart

K.

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SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE Jow Forums
END TIMES ARE NIGH

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nice zoom out.

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>Still well above 2004
>nice zoom out
>Its crashing!

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>Fucking morons who will sell just before Christmas

It's been "over" every day for the past 2 weeks. It was also over 6 months ago, and 3 months before that.

Oy vey, the boomers are going to have to work a few extra years.

This is laughable. Black Tuesday was a %60 drop in a single day. The markets are not crashing, it's a slow chipping away at consumer confidence, as intended by the Fed. Recognize that it's purpose is to protect retards from losing everything on speculation and blaming the career traders.
Not saying it's not beneficial to the ((elites)), but know bullshit when you see it. Laissez faire is better for the little guy than bubble wrapped usury, but only when the little guy doesn't trust every hot tip he reads. Professional traders lie, and publish lies to manipulate confidence all the time. If you see a dip, buy. Those assholes will halt trading of its really bad.
If you hear a news story that says things are going to the moon, sell. They're pumping before they make a large exit.
If you hear nothing at all, accumulate a long hold. Pay attention to the elephant in the room. (Bitcoin)
Always do the opposite of what they tell you, the biggest commodity is consumer confidence, they set the price by controlling public opinion, and they always buy low, sell high.

see you @ ~12k

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Too steep. What was it like in the 80s crash?

also nice double top

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theres not even a fucking point to diversifying stocks. they all fucking act the same when anything slightly significant happens. fucking MGM, MA, and CX all the fucking same

War profiteering being reduced with Syrian withdrawal. Crashing market. Almost like the kikes are trying to manipulate things.

Who cares? Stop investing in their scam market.

19k

Trust me lad, there's no one that would love a global collapse more than me.. I've just seen to many could've beens followed by a whopping nothing.

rope is bullish tough

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>“Deep State” Wipes Out 1/8th Of US Economy Then Warns “Run For Cover” As Pillars Of Global Financial System Prepare To Crash
whatdoesitmean.com/index2740.htm

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if it's not dipping hard below 20k it's still a nothingburger

Everyone should know that the magic number is 14k...anything else is just noise

>stocks tell how the economy is doing

Newfag

looks like the bear is here.

9CHAN HAS STARTED #MYBORDERMYCHOICE FLYERS SPREAD THEM ACROSS THE GLOBE!

WE WILL FUND THE WALL!

could be..I still believe in investors greed and retardation but the outlook darkens, what do you personally look forward to when it comes to markets? The only thing 'good' for short term liquidity will be keeping rate hikes at these levels next year and not further upping it and that is priced in already..a halt to the trade war?
More weapon deals?

markets need liquidity to maintain, but fed is raising rates anyway. it seems they are intentionally doing harm. the only reason i can see them doing this is because they know a recession is coming either way, and they want to have room to lower rates when it hits. they need ~3.5-4% rate to play around with before dropping into negative rates. they dont have enough room to increase liquidity when it will become absolutely necessary, and they are scared shitless.

doubt it..I watch this for eons. look at dow under Obama, pretty linear, look at that THICC bulge when Trump arrives..that is the market going haywire because of arms deal / tax cut / deregulation. It has to cool down and unless Dow is at 20K I would further raise rates. Everything else is further overheating markets.
You people don't listen to the very clear signals of the FED: when they raised rates back then they proclaimed rates are bound to inflation targets and has a cap at a few percent like 2-3.
All that got investors scared shitless all while the Dollar depreciated 30% against the euro..it's that ridiculous, the whole muh FED thing is a meme, markets react to it obviously, but you can't do math with x years earnings and expect the market to run in realtime
>priced in
at which point in the future are we?

think of it as a "controlled recession" vs a sudden black swan where the fed has absolutely no ability to take pressure off.

>tfw normies hope the economy does well
>tfw contrarians get rich when the economy goes to shit

they shouldve learnt after the GFC. they even made movies like the big short to redpill them. its their fault now.

QE ended = false demand ended, no more inorganic growth for stocks

Interest rates have to increase to give buffer for future recession rate reductions = Spending reduces in the economy, layoffs, unemployment rises

The whole things been a bubble since before 2009, QE was insane, all it did was set every normie up to fail twice in 10 years.

see this
it's really nothing special, actually Obama and Fed (and other central banks like ECB) acted very coordinated. Obama was heavily attacked for the first rate hikes, but literally nothing happened.
He gave confidence to markets and that's what the FED is for as well..stability. They can't make sudden moves unless absolutely necessary (QE) but obviously they love regulating the climate.
I don't see anything wrong with raising rates at this point, I see everything wrong with slashing corporate tax like that all at once and not expecting a dense pop

i concur, upside down man

there was no alternative to qe, if Trump hadn't slashed tax for useless buyback mania he would have gotten taxes in return for inflating their stock with tax payers money during QE times

>there was no alternative to qe

yikes and keynespilled

i'm reading what you're saying kraut, i just disagree.

the day Drumpf got shafted by the Fed, Congress and Coulter
IT'S SO GLORIOUS

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what alternative tell me..of course there are alternatives, but there had to be found a quick solution. also bushs guys left a mess

longer recession then stable recovery. now we get longer debt bubble and unstable economy that never actually recovered it just went back to the old ways of debting everything without producing anything or allocating resources efficiently

in any event thats just academic i like pragmatic discussion on where to move assets

What's pathetic is fags constantly saying it's over based off of a graph they don't even know how to interpret.

there was a lot of craze and pressure from corporates / banks back then, but you are right, I personally believe there is no too big too fail, if capitalism is taken serious there have to be shakeouts. If at all things should not become too big to fail anyway.
What I meant is that it was a viable way and that is how e.g. the dow graph looks like until Trump took office.

continues to fall.

>I personally believe there is no too big too fail, if capitalism is taken serious there have to be shakeouts.
100%. that was pure communism.

remember the days when DRUMPF was talking about stocks during the bull run acting like it was thanks to him?

WHY INST HE SAYING NOTHING NOW!?

Fuck yes. Press s to spit sssss

vix is primed to hit 30 either today or tomorrow.

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because he doesn't want to be blamed for the result of the fed's tightening

go look at fed rates under obama and then compare them to fed rates now, you fucking retard.

I don't care what it is, I am neither leftist or rightist, retarded brands for retarded people.
Imagine you want to compete with BP in selling oil, you can't. And that's why there needs to be regulation.
Also read my comment: you can't claim it's capitalism and socialize losses bailing out companies while letting them privatize their earnings. You are boiling it down too much.

Now if the housing market could follow along and pop ill be quite happy.

he's agreeing with you kraut. calm your autism. we all know that TARP was a fucking mistake.

lol bye

But we have already established that this is Obama's economy. It's all his fault.

communism will win

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The sun sets

It’s over.

wew lad

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sorry guys you are right

it just keeps dropping. free fall inbound?

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>that's what the FED is for as well..stability.
murder is stabilizing?

fuck the fed it's about SLAVERY

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Gee, how could this have happened.

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Trump's economy.

Trump is finished.
Wall will NEVER be built
Trump will lead us into another recession, just like every Republican president of the last 40 years has.

Trump will go into the history books as the worst president in the entire history of our country. Yes, there's literally no one worse than him, not even guys like Buchanan, Harding, Pierce or Hoover.

fake news

FPBP

>the fed's market manipulation
fixed it for you.

This downward trend was happening long before the fed raised interest rates yesterday brainlet. It's been going on this path since October.

>long before the fed raised interest rates.

see

wat

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Do you just not pay attention or follow the stock market? It's been a downward trend SINCE OCTOBER. How many times do I have to repeat myself?

Mental gymnastics in a desperate attempt to deflect from Trump's horrible economic policies having an impact on the economy.

who cares no wall
100 billion gitfted to monkeys

lol, reality is "mental gymnastics."

i love this clown world i have to share with you faggots.

This is going to be what is used to reign in the fed. I saw pundits on financial news channels talking about how the fed is going to crash the economy if it keeps raising rates at the pace there were going. Low and behold, the fed raised rates again and the market began to have a stroke.

When you have members of congress on news channels talking about how the fed is dangerous to the economy and how interest manipulation is far more dangerous to the economy than other factors regularly used to support the idea you know there has been a change in the way people think.

Buckle up boys, if Trump gets a second term expect the fed to be the whipping boy until he can get it disbanded.

The best part is, after Trump is finished, propagandists like you will be put into camps so we don't have to deal with your subversion anymore.

Like all Greeks I have a very innate and deep understanding of money, so hear me out:

The Fed uses QE to buy government bonds (treasuries) which are issued to finance the deficit.
The Fed is decreasing its balance sheet, which means it is no longer buying treasuries.
The Trump tax plan has ballooned the deficit, causing more and more treasuries to be issued.
So not only are there more treasuries to be bought, one of the largest buyers has disappeared.
Therefore, the yields on government bonds went up - making the investment attractive enough for people to put their money in it.
But where does people's money come from? Unlike the Fed, normal investors do not have a printing press. It comes out of other investments, like stocks.
Hence, the crash.

Now think of the bigger picture: cash-rich people (you know who) put their money into stocks over the last years. The "real economy" is booming under Trump, causing record high corporate profits. Corporate profits (and even debt!) are used to fund stock buybacks, pushed in this direction by "activist investors" like Carl Icahn (you guessed it). Those people (you know who) sell their stocks at super-high prices back to corporations, who are using money they obtained from regular people (corporate profits). Then the stock market crashes, causing those stock buybacks to become worthless, and all their investments into stock buybacks disappear in a puff of smoke.

I hope you are wiser now.

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