Are pagans simply atheists? They don't seem to believe in gods as supernatural deities...

They believe in God but they are unwilling to have a relationship with him. Neo paganism is just juvenile rebellion.

Christianity was adopted by Constantine just because he tried out Christian symbols on his war banners and had successful campaigns against you niggers.

2000 years later and here you are cucked by a kike on a stick with your people having nothing but contempt for their own history and bloodline and mock those who study and cherish their own natural religion.

Christianity inspired some awe inspiring archetecture and classic stories in Western canon, but it’s in its death throes, and corrupted beyond recognition in both the Church and popluar opinion (Jesus would let migrants in you bigot- just let jamal walk all over you- god loves me no matter what even if I’m a kidfucking tranny)

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A common, but baseless argument. Do you have a single fact to back that up? You’re assuming the facts rather than knowing them - an indicator of arrogance and religious brainwashing.

Truth is it goes beyond what your average Jow Forumsster can understand.
You'd have to walk the path to understand the path.

For me it's more like thiestic agnosticism- I know that there are larger forces at play than what we see, but it's almost like that other world is veiled and so I have to go with the best description of it available, which means that to me the gods play out as archetypes and forces. For example, do I necessarily believe that an identifiable being named Tyr God of War ever put his hand in a wolf's mouth to placate the animal so it could be bound? Probably not. But I do believe that the spirit of every man who has ever willingly sacrificed himself to ward off harm to his family, tribe, or nation is inspired by the same well of strength that lies just on the other side of that veil. We can call that well Tyr, or Tiw, or Ziu and tell personalized stories that describe the feats it inspires, but just because those stories are translated into allegories it doesn't mean that otherworldly force doesn't exist.

>be Christianity
>make your way into Europe during the first millenia
>inspire Europeans to lay the foundation for coming empires
>tell Europeans to conquer the new world to spread the word of God
>European empires undisputedly rule the world until the world wars
>now have neckbeards that dance around trees call you the root of all degeneracy that started AFTER people lost their faith and kikes forced shit like Vatican II
Yikes

What's so good about these empires? Globalism? Multiracialism?

Are you retarded or baiting?

This. Christianity unites us all regardless of our creed. We're all equal under Christ! Amen!

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>Empires
>Globalism

Don't you have to get infected with AIDS by mutt tranny or something you subhuman

Satanism

Ok, retarded it is then.

Empires literally lead to globalism. Unified authority=globalism. Ever wonder why former European empires are nowadays filled with immigrants from their colonies? By teaching niggers Christianity and European languages you just pave a way to your own downfall.

If the Gods aren't real then who have I been talking to all this time? Checkmate Christcucks.

The gods to us are far more in depth and powerful than what you see as a god. A universal force is more powerful than a Jew sitting on a cloud.

fpbp
Repent, faggot

>Spread the word of Jesus Christ by murdering everyone and taking their shit

Even the SJWs are correct in this aspect. And what was the end result of these empires? Now all of the West is getting browned because we integrated our culture too much with those who arent fit to uphold it.

Get pissed about tree dancers though, the only white religious group that actually puts nature before dogma

The reason why, for example, Britain is filled with shitskins now is because of certain, international forces that we all know about. Just because you rule over niggers doesn't mean that you have to let them enter your homeland.

I'm also once again astonished by how pagans constantly talk about how Christianity is too weak and that you should be much more violent while at the same time condemning imperialism becaude muh ebil globalism >:((

Cool religion faggot

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The Lord ROCKS!

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>Christianity is the reason that Jews have so much control over us in the first place. Christians have always been the foremost allies of the Jews, because that's what Christianity is at it's heart - an offshoot of Judaism. And violence ≠ imperialism.

Fuck, forgot the meme arrow.

Christians have been some of the most virulent antisemites in history, even if just on theological grounds.

Revelation 3,9

true pagans believe in sorcery, rituals and supernatural, these varg-tier pagans just want a culture of their own

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Some good points but face it, at rock bottom faith is no different from superstition for most. And most superstitions have been debunked by science. I don't disagree monotheism and especially Christianity have been crucial to human development but I can't believe in miracles, heaven, hell or shit like that. And that was what mattered to 99% of the Christians of the premodern era. Religion is not necessary in advanced societies which is why you see Christianity still flourishing in shit stinking countries and dying in the West with nothing to replace it except multi-culti propaganda and "spiritual" fee fees.

Of course Jow Forums just loves parroting that. But if it's true, then why have Jews not only survived for 2000 years while completely surrounded by Christians, but have also amassed massive amounts of wealth and power in the process? Christian anti-semitism mostly involves getting triggered by some disagreement within their kike cult, expelling the Jews for a year or so and then letting come back in all the while giving them even more power and influence than before.

Good post.

Just become a Neoplatonist

Yes. If any of them did any research into Pagan beliefs at all, they would find it is littered with degenerate hedonism. Literally all about fucking, feasting and drinking...But these are the same people that will tell you they hate everything about modernity.

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That is the nature of theological antisemitism. Pervasive RACIAL antisemitism is what we all truly want.

>Pagans genocided
>Christians mixed with savages
Really activated the almonds

I don’t want to be united with you shitskins

fpbp

whats good is that if youre doing the empire building, it means the subhuman races arent doing the empire building

To Christians, anything not believing in their very specific interpretation of the Bible™ is a pagan atheist, regardless of that inherent contradiction. Furthermore, the word "pagan" originally meant something akin to how we use "redneck" now; a general country folk who stick to themselves and didnt follow the progressive ideologies of the urban centers.
So, as the degenerate cities became "Christian," "pagan" evolved to mean to non-Christian country folk, and eventually just non-Christians. At present, "pagan" has changed yet again, and is now used by Christians to refer to a person who tries to practice a native European pre-Christian polytheist belief. The term generally isn't applied to Kikes, Muslims, Hindus, or Buddhists, or any other religions sect, only native European beliefs.
What's interesting is that no matter how adamantly Christians claim Christianity is pro-white, they can't prove this, and pointing out this fact makes you an "atheist" or accuse you of performing "pulpit." Or they simply ignore you and continue circlejerking

*pilpul
My bad

The problem with religion is that it all comes down to god and the promise of an afterlife. Most sophisticated and intelligent people, the sort who formed the backbone of theological thinking in the middle ages through the renaissance do not consider those to be serious ideas any longer. A lot of what used to be mysterious is no longer mysterious. The christian narrative suits illiterate, uneducated masses whose life is suffering and death. Technology has improved to the point where people in the West live to be so old they often long for death as a reprieve or die from lifestyle diseases the stem from overindulgence that wouldn't even be possible a hundred years ago for the average working person. You don't need saints or blessings or sacred rites now. You know that a billion fucking hindus aren't going to hell for not accepting jeebus because all religions make the same stupid claims so why would yours be right and theres wrong? You know there is no punishment for evil on earth. And you can be pretty sure when you die that's it since states of consciousness and the "self" all seem to be localized and dependent on brain activity.

Does anyone else see the bearded man in OP?

Nature is God
You cannot control if a tsunami happens, the Earth does
Very simple

>defending kikes
>notice flag

Who would have guessed?

>Are pagans simply atheists?
Atheism is literally anti-theism (a-theistic), paganism is theism.
>They don't seem to believe in gods as supernatural deities, more like metaphysical symbolism.
And you included a symbol of Thor's hammer as your picture, which is literally seen as a deity.
Do you even read what you write before you post it?

Most neo-pagans are atheists and profess a religion that they themselves believe is made up.

this is the correct answer

You need to read City of God.

You REALLY need to read City of God.

The Pagan gods are clearly demons. They either engaged in adultery, murder, sodomy, and all manner of foul practices or they willed that men believe they did such things through the plays and performances.

Augustine btfo of pagans 16 centuries ago

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>You need to read City of God.
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>You REALLY need to read City of God.

You really need to read Cicero. Augustine, who received a Roman education, simply changed the source of virtue from "human reason" to "god" and copied the rest from Cicero.

scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4978&context=etd

>For me it's more like thiestic agnosticism- I know that there are larger forces at play than what we see
This isnt agnosticism. If you said
>I dont know that there are larger forces at play than what we see
This would be agnosticism.
>but just because those stories are translated into allegories it doesn't mean that otherworldly force doesn't exist
I respect the point you're making, but also by that standard of us not being able to disprove a claim you're also allowing everything unknown to be probable. Which has to be demonstrated beforehand to show any probability in the first place.

First things first, they are not pagans but neopagans that have nothing to do with ancient paganism. Their beliefs are very new. And yes they are atheists believing only in some kind of new age spirtuality.

>nature is God
No, nature is nature. Hijacking a word to make a God claim fit is silly.

They're atheist who don't want to get the blame for creating the cucked secularized western world, so they "adopted a religion," which allows for them to deflect that blame away from themselves.

>Most neo-pagans are atheists and profess a religion that they themselves believe is made up.
Who determines who believes in a God or doesnt, and what data do you have to suggest this is true?

yeah they are atheists. Find me even one pagan who believes the creation story in the eddas. I seriously doubt any but the most uneducated hindus believe their creation story, of all the non-abrahamics I have only ever met mahayana people actually believing their shit

God created the heavens and the earth in six days, and he rested on the seventh

See

What is wrong with feasting and drinking?

Drinking is a Canadian pastime, you sound like one those FOB Mohammadites that Trudeau has brought in.

>yeah they are atheists. Find me even one pagan who believes the creation story in the eddas
Believers of the bible dont necessarily follow their creation story, either. Does that make them not believe in a god?
>God created the heavens and the earth in six days, and he rested on the seventh
How did you determine this to be true?

>implying Yahweh couldn't do it in one
How fucking dare you

He wants it to be true because it's what he was raised to believe, same as everyone else.

>God created the heavens and the earth in six days
>omnipotent god takes days to get stuff done instead of doing it instantly
lmaoing at your jewish god

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>>nature is God
>No, nature is nature. Hijacking a word to make a God claim fit is silly.
But that is essentially what pagans believe. Cicero believed that nature was "god", and most pagan gods or deities serve to explain natural forces or those things experienced as "outside" the self.

Basically just atheism+, now we're dancing naked around the fucking fire.

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they are the true arians. spiritual beings. whites are superior to all races because they can actually be spiritual. other races are soulles thus they created judaism to control societies by creating fear. paganism is the true path to return in real symbiosis with nature and our souls again. it would heal us. judaism is like rotten flesh

are you seriously THIS fucking retarded? i refuse to believe anyone could post something as stupid as what i just read

>They believe in God but they are unwilling to have a relationship with him.
It's just too much narcissism and arrogance to imagine the creator/destroyer of the universe wants to have a "personal relationship" with somebody like you.

>Neo paganism is just juvenile rebellion.
That's a myth fabricated by the religious to ignore the real threat - the Abrahamic religions are violent, immoral and the lies they're based on are becoming increasingly irrelevant to intelligent citizens.

>Atheism is literally anti-theism
It's literally not.
A●theism is Greek for 'without gods'
Anti●theism is Greek for 'against gods'

>Believers of the bible dont necessarily follow their creation story, either. Does that make them not believe in a god?
Eventually. Once you introduce these degrees of disbelief, it snowballs into breaking faith altogether.

>Who determines who believes in a God or doesnt,
People are required to self-identify. Religious cretins who go around judging the beliefs of others are full of shit.

But that's my argument. Nature is nature, theres nothing supernatural to nature.

>They either engaged in adultery, murder, sodomy, and all manner of foul practices
Sounds like Islam and the Catholic Church on a Saturday night.

And now the 3rd world “colonials” are returning home to roost from such BASED Christian conquered countries. Now (((they can))) hold these “crimes” of Christian empires over our head for centuries to justify their importation. WTF I love Christianity and Krauts now.

The gods may or may not have existed, they may or may not have beenhuman, but Christ was not my ancestors god, and will not be mine.

You Deus is one of stolen valor.

Define "Pagan" first. There are no actual Pagans left for all I see. Wicca is pure new age Cancer, Varg is a larper, Survive the Jive is an intellectualizing historian with a Hobby, some People just hate Christcuckery and voted Odin for the protest vote

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>Eventually. Once you introduce these degrees of disbelief, it snowballs into breaking faith altogether.
So people who dont believe in the same things you do will end up not believing? This doesnt make sense, considering people do this all the time and still believe.

>Are pagans simply atheists?

It sure is a larp , pic related is old Jow Forums

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lol no

pic related nu Jow Forums now with paganism

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>People are required to self-identify.
So either they believe or they dont, right? I'm not seeing why this claim makes sense.
>Religious cretins who go around judging the beliefs of others are full of shit.
Isnt this what you are doing? Or am I reading your posts wrong

I believe Odin was a fallen Angel.

Excellent post

Justify the death of our own ancestral religion, and the adoption of semetic bullshit, christcucks

Try to convert me, enlighten me.

Retarded like most of Jow Forums

>what is the Roman Republic

>what is empires only count as empires when it fits my narrative.

>what is implying humans couldnt possibly civilize in the (at least) 100,000 years before Christ.

I don't understand the pagan religion. The only way to get to Valhalla is to die on the battlefield, but most modern-day worshipers are pussies.

Yes. It's basically anything they can come up with to oppose Christianity.

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>kidfucking tranny
Ask yourself what it's religion is...
Atheist, pagan or Christian?

And now you know where paganlarp threads come from.

AMEN BASED CHRISTIANS

youtube.com/watch?v=McNbW9-XjYE

We don't want to convert you. We want you and your poisons in the fire. And the Lord provides. There is no forgiveness without repentance. None.

I understand the difference between what I described and agnosticism, that's why I preaced it with the word "theistic." Your other point would hold validity if I was trying to convince you or anyone else to follow my belief sustem, but I really don't give a fuck what you believe. I'm comfortable that my observations of this world hint that there is something more, and that my interpretation is the closest I'll get to certainty. You can't logic your way through faith.

>We don't want to convert you.
I know two Pentecostal girls who just came back from Ethiopia (I think that's what they said anyway) apparently they were there to "help the poor African Christians and spread the word" so that's bullshit, you just don't try and convert smart people.