So how's that self-esteem of yours, Jow Forums?

So how's that self-esteem of yours, Jow Forums?

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About as low as you can get. Tinder just confirms it, usually.

It depends from which angle you approach
I put up the confident facade because most people expect it and it does well to put most people at ease
But the truth is that I basically hate myself to the core because, well, I just do really.

I don't get many matches on Tinder, but when I do, most of them seem pretty interested in me, sometimes hitting me up first. So pretty decent I'd say.

Tinder, Bumble, and OKCupid
2 weeks and I've gotten 2 matches. Both of them ghosted me almost immediately. So what self-esteem?

Post some of your convos here, let's see what you're doing wrong.

Women dont actually use tinder fyi

There isn't a conversation to post
They just leave me on read and unmatch me within seconds of the message being sent

Post those.

Sure they do, they just aren't willing to date or fuck the majority of men on it. That's how online dating works.

>post screencaps of conversations that no longer exist

Its literally all bots and thieves

Hell deep and heavenly high. Always changeing. Never take it seriously. I sometimes do, stupid me.

Extreme self-hate. I'm at the point where I think random strangers I walk past in the street are better than me in every way. If rock bottom self esteem is possible, I think I'm experiencing it.

got laid 4 times out of the 30 matches i got and it was a meh feeling. . it wasn't worth the trouble
seems like most girls have a gang of guys on speed dial and its a matter of it being your "turn"
its stupid really.
>dont say this one WORD or she'll ghost or unmatch you
>dont say anything that can turn her off when u meet at coffee or she'll ghost you
>better make her cum really good during sex or she'll ghost u
>dont act like you like her too much or she'll ghost u
barely use it now and went back to focusing on my life without women. started fapping again. i still get matches but now i barely message back.

Because they do. It's tinder. It's is overwhelmingly a woman's market.

My very average friend joined tinder with me and she got over 300 matches in a 24 hour period. She had so many she was having to delete people just so she had room to get more. I'm a dude and I got six matches in that time: two sex bots, a dude (even though there was a picture of a girl in his profile pic), and three women who never responded to my messages.

Shits rough out there.

Tell me the WORD. Whisper it in my ear. Tenderly.

last night i had a Tinder date and ended up sleeping at the girls place.

Her cunt smelled bad and she acted all affectionate after sex which i didn't like.

When she showered in the morning, i basically grabbed all my stuff and busted out of the place.

I also stole all of her weed and am getting high as fuck right now

Women get turned off really easily. Not sure why. I think it still happens when they get older but they are just more desperate and ignore it.

Tinder gave me a boost, I always thought I was bad looking until I got a shittonne of matches

I am gainfully employed, own a house and a nice car. Still women go for guys like this and not me.

I should just kill myself.

not him imjust lie about everything on tinder. im a cs major and come from a middle class and soon as these girls find out. they acted weird
just downplay everything about u
say u work at walmart
live with ur parents and say the car is theirs. bum it up

Can’t bring myself to use tinder. Something about presenting a curated version of yourself along with the promiscuous intent behind most users on the app just really turns me off.

In the words of kraftwerk, “WE ARE SHOW ROOM DUMMIES!”.

It should have been lowered thanks to "I have no good photos" effect, but lately I've been reading "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fck", so meh in general

I´ve had 75 matches, got laid 4 times. Tbh I could have gotten laid more times, but the process of talking to these girls starts to get a mechanical feel, and that makes the interaction feel kinda lame and shallow.

I feel like these sexual "achievements" get you so far in terms of self-esteem. I mean, they can make you feel like you are wanted and they can boost your confidence, but once you have a decent self-esteem having sex with random girls doesn´t make it any better.

Anyway, I sometimes use it more when Im feeling horny, and I´ll keep using it until I get a gf

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hardly got matches there, never knew what to say and if i ever set up a meeting they flaked.
So i deleted it.

I've had so little personal interaction with women that I dont know how I would react to one showing interest in me.
A lack of interest is really my standard.
Overall though I accept bad things about me like my laziness and am aware of some of my better traits like my adherence to obligation and learning new things quickly.

I dont think I have high self-esteem but it isnt so low that I'm spiraling into a depression.

>girl says on her profile that she gives the best back scratches
>tell her my cat also gives excellent back scratches and I'm unsure she could outmatch him
>got unmatched
So saying this was too forward? It feels like walking on eggshells with some of these women. Am I just autistic?

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You told her you let your cat rub you, do you really expect her to compete with pussy?

I've gotten 3 matches in about two weeks. I'd say I'm doing pretty well.

>dont say this one WORD or she'll ghost or unmatch you
>dont say anything that can turn her off when u meet at coffee or she'll ghost you
>better make her cum really good during sex or she'll ghost u
>dont act like you like her too much or she'll ghost u
This is exactly what's always bothered me about "pick up advice" and all that.
>If you do THIS and THIS and say THESE things, you'll get to the next phase.
>That's when you do THIS and then she'll have sex with you!
You'd have to be some kind of sociopath to think there are universal rules, that women are like robots that always react the same to something, or sleeper agents you have to say the right activation phrases to. I know it's corny as hell, but the best advice for dating I've ever heard is "Treat her like she's a person". It kinda seems like guys don't even like the women they're trying to fuck, but why would you want to fuck someone you don't like?

Cause they're hot.

I'm no fucking specimen, but it's rare I meet a woman who doesn't disappoint me, let alone impresses me with anything other than her looks. I can go up to a man, and have good odds of striking up a decent, intelligent conversation about something interesting. Women are usually just confused about anything halfway complicated.

Don't get me wrong, I think there are women who have admirable qualities, or are better than me in certain things, but I've yet to meet one who humbles me.

So basically, woman are mostly for fucking, don't need to like them to fuck.

>I can go up to a man, and have good odds of striking up a decent, intelligent conversation about something interesting. Women are usually just confused about anything halfway complicated.
It's exactly the opposite for me, I find conversations with other men unbearably shallow, but can usually get on the same level with women pretty quick.

And now I've got this song stuck in my head lol youtube.com/watch?v=ENxbcvUXfnM

Better since I deleted that bullshit off my phone.

But still pretty low.

Was pretty bad after my break-up. Used Tinder for a bit, mostly for attention. Got some matches.

Was chatting with this cute girl who was a big Bob Dylan fan like me. Deleted the app when I realized I'm not going to get serious with the type of girl who uses tinder.

I'd rather meet girls in real life anyways.

Down as shit. I just don't know how to meet women casually, I just feel like a turbo autist at this point, it's depressing as shit

Its so dumb but funny, fuck it I'd take you out and buy some pizza for making me laugh. I hope you like SAUSAGE

I've dated and fuck 7s and even 8s, but it was ALWAYS in person. I know I have shit pics for Tinders standards, but the whole thing fucks with my head. There is just too much competition online and I can't stand out like you can in person perhaps.

Post your pictures or bio

Fucking photos. It's what's stopping m me from trying those apps