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Why not do both

Ah, prison reform just in time for the shift into a white minority. T-this won't backfire...right, user?
Also, VAN JONES APOLOGY NOW OR WE INCREASE SENTENCING.

Normies just read the name of a bill and make assumptions.

Van Jones crafted it.

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We tell them what to think. Their entire living is based on popularity.

I dont have a terribly high opinion of him either way.

He is emblematic of the support behind the bill. They really want this.

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they really wanted the ACA too even though it was the furthest thing from universal healthcare as you could get.
But if it buys some democratic flips I'm only MORE on board because it does nothing.

Politically this would make no sense: Protip: Dems don't actually give a fuck about minorities or criminal justice reform. They would be thrilled to see Trump shoot down some bipartisan legislation like this so they could run nonstop "See! DRUMPHF is LITERALLY KILLING black people" headlines.

Dems would lose the black vote if they walked away from this just to spite Trump. I think you may be a concerned shill, because any one on the right would just say Nigger and claim that it shouldn't be passed anyway.

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It makes all the sense in the world. It would be the first genuine step towards a real nationalism.

>Dems would lose the black vote if they walked away from this just to spite Trump

Dems will never lose the black vote regardless of their actions.

The justice reform bill is already being hailed as a significant legislative achievement for Trump. For him to publicly shoot down a bill he championed just to OWN DA LIBS or something would be completely retarded.
foxnews.com/politics/house-passes-criminal-justice-reform-bill-sending-it-to-trumps-desk
Seriously this isn't some epic 4D CHESS idea, it's just nonsensical, which is why nobody is proposing it.

Identity politics has convinced every demographic that they are victims. And to see any individual demographic take precedence over another will drive them crazy. The beneficiaries of open borders are overwhelming Hispanic. The Black community will not allow the lawmakers to pass on this over the wall.

Hells yes!!!

Who is hailing it as a significant legislative achievement? All the talking heads that supposedly changed Trump's mind (Ingraham, Limbaugh, Savage, etc.) on the wall criticized the Criminal Justice Reform. They hated it. And the base will be disgusted if it passes while wall funding doesn't.

The key Senators don't care about the criminal justice reform bill. They do care about having wars forever in the Middle East which is why we're suddenly seeing announcements of drawdowns. He's holding their wars hostage for the wall.

It's literally impossible for Dems to lose the black vote. Blacks vote Democrat even when they think the Republican party is better for black people.
thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/09/02/non-whites-of-every-stripe-vote-democrat/

That's fucking ridiculous. Both parts.

If the Dems are forced to take this stand, they will lose it. The Blacks may not vote Republican, but they will definitely stay home if Open Borders takes precedence over Criminal Justice Reform, a strike at "institutionalized racism."

There's a reason Pelosi and Schumer were running around going "you don't have the Republican votes for this anyway." Because he didn't. Now suddenly he does in the House? I suspect we see the wall pass in the Senate through reconciliation. If so that means the GOP could have done this anytime in the last two years if they'd wanted to. It's not a coincidence that he is randomly threatening to pull out of the favorite wars of the 3 or 4 GOP Senators holding this up on the same day that he says it's a wall or else.

Black user here, I'm really grateful to Trump for this. The man has a big heart. I'm still going to vote for democrats, but it's nice to know republicans aren't the stereotypes that the media makes them out to be.

You're delusional. That is a completely separate issue.

Hold on buddy. He hasn't signed it yet.

I'm delusional? You're the one who thinks any of the key votes on this give a shit about the criminal justice bill. There are only a few GOP Senators who have been implacably opposed to the wall. They're guys like Lindsay Graham / Jeff Flake. But what they care even more about is keeping soldiers in Afghanistan and Syria. They're Russia hawks and frankly just hawks in general. He's telling them "pass this or I pull out the troops." They kind of oppose the wall, but they really, really, really don't want a troop drawdown.

And you really believe that 100 hundred percent of Democrats would still vote against the wall if given this ultimatum? Besides, I think the troops are a separate issue. He isn't putting them back in after all this.

After the statements he made announcing it, he won't go back on it.

Did you vote for Trump? You don't seem desperate enough.

Yes. Schumer controls their votes. They'll just take advantage of it and blame him for failing in what was supposed to be his signature achievement. They don't really give a fuck about black people either or we would have had a bill like this years ago. If Democrats cared that much about this why didn't they pass this under Obama? And troops aren't a separate issue. He said two things today: I'm pulling them out of Syria and I'm looking at Afghanistan. Timing is everything. He says that right after his meeting with Ryan on the wall? It's a threat.

He only said it was certain for Syria. His statement on Afghanistan was more vague (I'm going to consider it).

That is good bait. Have a you

The bill doesn't do nearly enough for most black voters to give a shit.

And all those dumb blacks will just be totally unaware of the Democrats' decision to walk away from Criminal Justice Reform, a strike at "institutionalized reform" because they refuse to protect the border? No sir.

Refer to OP. This is a Christmas Miracle.

Like I said they'll blame Trump. You're even proposing he be the one to threaten this. Why wouldn't they blame him for it?

When a nigger praises criminal reform you know this is bad news

Do you honestly believe that he would lose more votes by dumping the reform than by letting the wall slide. It doesn't matter if they blame Trump, because those voters would stay at home anyway.

I'm saying dumping reform doesn't do anything and doesn't get him closer to the wall. He won't pick up any Democratic votes by doing that. It's all pain no benefit. Honestly it sounds like you just don't like the criminal reform bill and are trying to come up with some convoluted excuse for why he should try to get rid of it.

>jewishness

Sure.

Lol nailed it.

Blacks don't vote anyway. If they stay home, their votes will still be cast D.

This. Is. A. White. Lash.

> letting criminal shitskins out into our streets
> a rise in black on white assault, rape, and murder will commence in 2019 and 2020

What the fuck is this cucked bullshit ?

Why not just then get rid of it amiriiite

> (((CIVIKEKISM)))
fuck off back to t_D fucking nigger lover

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stfu you social reject, you're probable living in a shed in Oklahomo sniffing spry paint and jacking off to cartoon porn yet try to act like you have some moral high ground when it comes to reforming a bullshit drug law

If you say so. Trump is the one who convinced McConnell to even push the bill to the Senate for a vote. This was his legislation. He can kill it, save it, or leave it. No Democrat politician is as closely tied to this bill as Trump and his son. If Democrats were smart, savvy, and assholes they'd purposely make it blow up to ensure Trump doesn't have any achievements that could potentially steal some minority votes in 2020.

>If Democrats were smart, savvy, and assholes they'd purposely make it blow up to ensure Trump doesn't have any achievements that could potentially steal some minority votes in 2020.

It passed 87-12. And you either haven't read the thread, or you can't understand this.

the absolute state of the black community
>A concession to the black community has nothing to do with the economy, tax rates, infrastructure spending.....it's how long mandatory sentencing is for your 3rd strike.

> LOLbiterian meme flag
> nigger lover
> (((Civcuck)))
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Head back to t_D fucking nigger lover

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I bet you aren't even white.

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You are a leech. And you don't even have hermeticism on there.

What the fuck are you talking about? It hasn't been signed yet. That's the entire point of this thread about "leverage." If Trump uses his own god damn bill for leverage and doesn't sign it (i.e. veto) then it will go back down to the House/Senate for revisions and new votes. It's not leverage. It's the equivalent of sticking a gun to your own daughter's head to convince her boyfriend to break up with her.

Blacks will stay home if the Democrats walk away from this Christmas Miracle because they prefer Open Borders. This is really simple.

You should probably talk to a black person in real life and ask them who they would blame if this bill blew up. Very few in the black community would hesitate to put the wreckage right at Trump's feet. Do you remember how Obama was blamed for everything from rioting in Ferguson to ISIS regardless of his actual policies? For most women, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, LGBT, etc. that's now what Trump represents.

Shit, you can even glance at the twitter replies to Van Horn who OP is using as a reference to get some bearing on the reality of this:
twitter.com/vanjones68/status/1062852237779554304?s=12

>van horn

Van Jones*

Too much RDR.

Pic related fucking nigger

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Twitter is a very poor indicator of sentiment. Very simply, minorities are the most racist. I've witnessed more open racism from just about every non-white demographic than white. Trump has pinned them against one another if he goes through with this.

I guess we'll see.

no, but he should expose the media double standard when they don't give him any credit

Yeah, just like the employment and poverty numbers. That really works.

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I was thinking the exact same thing. This is the ultimate leverage. Democrats will have to choose between incarcerated blacks or illegal Mexicans. Their fucking heads will explode live on CSPAN

Indeed