Long story short, there is a girl I like. Her boyfriend and her haven't been going so well. Is it a sin to want to pursue her?
For the record, if above is a sin would there be a way to make it not one? I understand adultery is but for example expressing my feelings and telling her that she could make a choice?
No clue anyhow thanks for the help
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>Her boyfriend
Yes, it is a sin. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's spouse. You're coveting. Stop it.
>Is it a sin to want to pursue her?
Forget "sin" it's a dick move to break people apart for your own pleasure.
>For the record, if above is a sin would there be a way to make it not one? I understand adultery is but for example expressing my feelings and telling her that she could make a choice?
Do it. Please. Get turned down and look like an idiot...
You just have to keep on being bright, pleasent, and polite with her. I wouldn't spill your feelings with her. If it is going poorly with her boyfriend eventually she will break things off and she will definitely break things off with him if by comparison you look like this great guy. Don't change anything you're doing, continue to be a good person, God knows your heart and if it is meant to be it will be,.
You're being a little over-zealous. Clearly I hadn't been doing it if I purposed the question. For my own pleasure? Please do explain
Excellent that clears things up. I don't currently flirt with her but I can feel a tension. It would be sinful to pursue it currently, but I like what you had said.
*To sum up what you said if I had heard correctly, still be friendly and just wait and see what happens. If it doesn't happen it was never meant to be correct?*
I imagine what Moses did and what I am proposing is a bit different as I am not trying to break them up.
>Is it a sin to want to pursue her
acting of these desires would be giving into sin, having them isn't succumbing to them is.
Who cares. The universe does not care. "God" does not exist except in your mind. Do what you want.
Fuck no
She ain't got no ring on her finger
>Adultery (from Latin adulterium) is extramarital sex that is considered objectionable on social, religious, moral, or legal grounds. Though what sexual activities constitute adultery varies, as well as the social, religious, and legal consequences, the concept exists in many cultures and is similar in Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.[1] A single act of sexual intercourse is generally sufficient to constitute adultery, and a more long-term sexual relationship is sometimes referred to as an affair.
en.wikipedia.org
All is fair in love and war
Part of the definition of adultery is that they have to be married
This.
Hell, she can be married with 5 kids. If she decides she wants to leave her family for you, then she just made a decision to be happy.
Go for it OP, you can make her life so much happier.
>Hell, she can be married with 5 kids. If she decides she wants to leave her family for you, then she just made a decision to be happy.
no, this is adultery
>9e I say to you,* whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) and marries another commits adultery.” 10[His] disciples said to him, “If that is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11He answered, “Not all can accept [this] word,* but only those to whom that is granted.
>spouse
That's only for married people. She becomes off limits when she's married. A boyfriend doesn't mean jack shit.
>if above is a sin would there be a way to make it not one?
If you really believe in an all powerful, all knowing God, you really think you're going to find loopholes in his rules?
Catholic here. I don't believe it's cast in stone that this is a sin or not. It's only adultery when people are married (for example if you pursue a woman that's married). There's a reason the marriage is a union before God but a boyfriend-girlfriend couple is not.
Either way think about it like this: Are you loving your neighbour by doing this? Are you treating someone the way you want to be treated?
If I were in a couple I wouldn't want a guy to try to get my girlfriend if he knows she's my girlfriend (or he knows she has a boyfriend). But then again I can't judge because I often find myself wishing my friend would break up with her boyfriend and be with me (like that's ever gonna happen...). We all have faults, don't let people judge you morally, take what you read as an opinion and then make your own choice, because sin is definitely not a black and white thing. It depends on the circumstances and God will judge everyone individually and using his absolute and complete knowledge of you. And He is infinitely forgiving.
So again I really don't think this is an adultery related sin, it's only a sin if you think about it as treating that girl's boyfriend in a way you maybe wouldn't want to be treated yourself (if you had a girlfriend and wouldn't want a guy to pursue her, but Idk how you feel about that).
> if above is a sin would there be a way to make it not one?
I would say yes:
-Wait until it's clear enough that they broke up.
-Want to be with the girl to make her happy, not just to be happy yourself.
I want to add to this that of course, you are not going to please everyone and that's inevitable, that's what makes sin so gray. Jesus would react to people not understanding His message but I really don't know if it's all so simple. Avoiding harming others should be the intention but you have to be realistic. Whenever you do something important or big I'm sure someone somewhere would get mad because of it. Try to keep good intentions and pray to God for guidance, trust that He is forgiving and ask him to take control of your life. Then I guess do what you think is best and if you are on the wrong path God will find a way to show you I'm sure.
Straight up tell her that you're into her and always have been. Say that you don't want to make her feel bad or guilty but that you wanted to let her know and hopes she makes whatever decision makes her happiest. Be fucking direct or she'll just think you're some "niceguy." It shouldn't matter if he's a cunt or a saint, go after what you want. Be the Mr. Steal Yo Girl. Don't let yourself or your "faith" stand in the way of good poon and true love.
Kind of a shitty god that would torture you literally forever because you have some feelings.
>christfag dilemmas
thank you for your valuable input into the thread
She doesn't like you if she hasn't pursued you
Happened to me. I cheated first, confessed, and this dude was coveting her, for ages. In revenge she cheated on me/had affair. I dumped her, when i found out. She still wants me back.
so if you wanna fuck her, go for it, but its not really a position of strength, if you ask me. Also the dude has all rights to murder your ass, so beware.
I can't comment on what is a sin as I'm not a religious man.
Pursuing someone who is in a relationship is a shitty thing to do regardless of how poorly you think it is going.
Expressing your feelings to someone who is in a relationship is an odd choice, it doesn't push her to make a decision as she probably isn't thinking "I'm not happy but if someone offers and alternative I'll jump".
She wouldn't want to cheat with a bible thumper anyways.
You cannot know better than them wether or not their relationship is "going well" or not. Could suddenly start getting better as you try to get her attention and end up getting your ass kicked by the boyfriend. Wanna give it a shot? Then go ahead. Dont cry around about the drama if shit hits the fan though. Always remember, there are plenty of fish in the sea.
>...there is a girl I like. Her boyfriend...
Why would she want to be with someone who acts like this. You know its wrong, stop.
No problem friend
You already know the answer, unless you’ve been living under a rock your whole life. You could even google this shit.