Be careful of career advice you got from internet
>leddit
Go back.
How are these two post even remotely correlative
>Couldn't find work
>Is employed
Wat
And these are the kind of people who talk shit about us computer science master race on /sci/.
>Waaahhhh CS people make mad bucks while i can't get a job!! NOT FAIR!!!
That guy made a popular career advice thread for physics students.
Turns out he didn't even have his physics degree when he wrote the post. And now he's in grad school in some 2nd rate uni because he couldn't find a job.
So what are physics majors supposed to do if they want to go into research? I was told by my advisor that they have the best employment options. At this rate physics is no different than philosophy: high IQ mental masturbation with no job outlooks.
Why do all these assholes never mention what school they studied at?
People who graduated the same year with me mostly became teachers or shit-tier engineer.
Or couldn't find a job and do grad school in stem.
Obviously the best went to Caltech, MIT, etc.
I bet their resume and interviewing skills are shit too. They blame it on the major though because doing otherwise would mean they have to be introspective and take the blame, which is hard for them to do.
Because then the meme would be exposed.
You can only get a job in Physics if you went to a top 10. That's it. Anything less and you should probably just do a trade or engineering/CS. Sorry.
>i have no argument
i concur with , but that asside
>biophysics
no surprises there, it is an extremely niche field
>look at this funny post I found on plebbit guise xd
This whole board is a cancer
Taking advice from /sci/ was the best thing that ever happened to me. I went back to school, studied physics, eight years later I'm working on my doctoral dissertation.
It all comes down to how much you apply yourself - completing a degree and getting a piece of paper alone won't do shit for you, you gotta be doing research, outreach, and building applicable skill sets on top of that.
Joke's on you, I'm getting my physics degree then joining the French Foreign Legion so I can bleed to death in Algeria
>biophysics
He did a meme degree, of course he's not getting a job
>no job outlooks
I don't understand this, getting a job with physics seems easy
Normies instantly assume you're intelligent if you studied physics
>biophysics
Meme degree. I remember seeing a biophysics paper a few years ago that was someone literally rederiving Simpson's Rule and presenting it as some revolutionary new way of approximating integrals for bio research results. You guys are an embarrassment.
It depends on how picky you are. I've got a physics MS, working on my PhD. Once I've got my doctorate, if I wanted to I could walk into a bank and get a job modelling profit indexes and optimizing interest rates and shit... it'd be boring, soulless, thankless work, but I'd make six figures easy. Or I could go out and try for industry jobs, the work will be more satisfying and challenging, but expectations and performance demands will be a lot higher. Or I could go for academia, the demand to publish or perish still holds, but teaching is definitely more laid back than industry, but I'm also going to be a lot shorter on options since only so many places are going to be looking for PhDs and only so many of those will actually be interested in hiring someone with a particular specialization - convincing a department that specializes in high energy particle physics to hire someone specialized in low-temperature plasmas is a hard sell.
In the end, finding a job with a physics degree comes down to figuring out what you're willing to compromise on, what kind of lifestyle you're willing to live, and how hard you're willing to make looking for a job if it means finding a position in the kind of place you want to live, the kind of salary and benefits you want, and the kind of work you want to do.
>Reddit
You know that place is full of liars and pop-sci fat neckbeards with no social intelligence??
Yeah, you will stay unemployed and you will waste your money, keep the way to the non losers
I'm not picky, i recently graduated with a BSc in physics and I see a lot of potential careers open to me, so I'm always shocked to see so many negative opinions about physics career prospects
I am trying to worm my way into something related to data science most jobs I've seen just ask for a numerical degree
I think the problem a lot of these people having trouble finding jobs are running into is that they come out expecting to get a bachelor's degree and walk into a 300K starting industry job or a tenure-track academic position and when they don't immediately find something like that or they realize how much work it is to get a proper CV together and put yourself out there and go to interview after interview, etc they just throw their hands up and are like WELL FUCK, THIS DEGREE IS WORTHLESS, GUESS I'LL JUST TAKE THAT DATA ENTRY JOB.
German perspective.
No one is looking for physics majors for jobs in software and financial industry.
Perhaps things are better in USA.
>I see a lot of potential careers open to me
>I am trying to worm my way into something related to data science
Lol, so you're jobless and delusional. Basically OP.
Do you guys supplement your curriculum with computer science classes? In the US, most of an astronomer or astrophysicist's work is programming
yes user, autistic redditors are the representative of the meanies bullying you for your meme degree
Sure, some people who did their thesis in astro ended up in software. But it's not like Germany has a healthy software industry. Plus we are overproducing cs graduates. The fact they relaxed visa requirements for foreign software engineers doesn't help.
Meanwhile in the CS graduate's new office at a Fortune 500 company...
>CS graduate's new office
actually like pic related
starting salary is 35k/year overtime exempt with mandatory 60+ hours/week
I doubt you have even graduated
Physics people are orders of magnitude more intelligent than engineering people. I've met both, there's a humongous gulf between the two.
But engineers are better workhorses. They churn shit out. Physics people get lost in their thoughts
I would recognize that raven anywhere. It's the Carleton University subreddit Jow ForumsCarletonU
Any /ravens/ here?
Whatever helps you sleep at night, physie.
This makes me depressed about my future.
>Once I've got my doctorate, if I wanted to I could walk into a bank and get a job modelling profit indexes and optimizing interest rates and shit... it'd be boring, soulless, thankless work, but I'd make six figures easy
No you couldn't. Stop talking about shit you don't understand. This is a narrow niche and you don't get involved in it by showing up as a 35 year old with a Mensa certificate.
If you're getting a PhD in physics with the goal of doing something outside of academia, you clearly misread the fine print, or didn't grasp the rules of the game to begin with. You made a wrong turn and failed. It'll continue to be hard to accept for a long time, but somewhere down the line, the edge will wear off and this will dawn on you.
Try to meditate, or take up some sort of creative outlet. Try to stay sane and get back to writing your papers. Showing off delusions about your qualifications is not a good look
Isn't that a pretty good school? Or was I thinking of Carleton College?
Good or bad, still no job.
I'm not sure if this is your forte but how welcoming are German schools to Americans in terms of graduate school. I was thinking of applying to Passau or Bonn for mathematics. Not necessarily the people but the paperwork.
The profs are pretty welcoming. Students are less so: fucking immigrant forcing the classes to be in english. Outside, it's even worse. Some people simply don't want to speak english. Even for emergency matters: bank, insurance, government, hospital. Not always, but still. Basically, know german before you arrive.
Bonn has scholarships for incoming master students. Likely reserved for geniuses. If you want funding, try ICTP in Trieste or Canadian universities. Or Weizmann in Israel. Erasmus master programs also grant a lot of scholarships.
Bonn is great. Really really great for maths. Basically go there if you want to do pure math. For applied math, universities in Berlin are somewhat better.
>Once I've got my doctorate, if I wanted to I could walk into a bank and get a job modelling
cringy and bluepilled
based and redpilled
>Not necessarily the people but the paperwork
Oh boy
Unless you're an illegal immigrant german bureaucracy is a bitch.
But most of the work can be passed down to people who know how the system works.
In lectures, if they're in english, you will most likely get ear-cancer because of german dialect.
Communication within work groups works just fine in english though
Carleton University is nice but in Ottawa it's like if you want to go into something you should pick the university (between Carleton and the University of Ottawa) that is best for it and the other the backup (an maybe switch alter on if you really want to).
Like If you go Math go Carleton there is legit no contest between it and UOttawa, Uottawa isn't bad but Carleton has way more shit for it's Math courses and degree paths like an Actuary program for example and an optionally Introduction to Mathematical Reasoning that anyone can take. Also Honours Math is separate from the start at year 1 from the rest so that's a big advantage to many people I presume.
it's not about arguments, it's about you being a parasite that needs to go and stay fucking gone
You should be if you didn't bother to take even a moment to review career prospects and network beforehand
It's not what you know, it's who you know
I know people who did this, dont know why people always act like engineers and physicists dont get hired by banks.
Because they don't get hired by banks everywhere.
UK is pretty flexible about your undergrad degree in general, which is nice.
Because it's not true in general. Do you think any third-rate student with shit gpa can get jobs in banks?
A shit student will have trouble getting any job in any field.
Most physics students are shit students. Shit students in real degree like cs have not trouble finding a job. I wish everyone can stop lying to physics majors. The job market for physics graduates are shit.
That's societal bullshit and you know it.
>Shit students in real degree like cs have not trouble finding a job.
wat
The text is a tragic irony, because if he'd gotten that radiation technologist degree he'd be making the same post only this time he'd be like, "waaah, no jobs, i should have got sumthing in bio instead waaah."
The main take away here is that this person has shit social skills and contact building skills.
Should I try to go in for civil engineering?
I don't understand how people get this backwards idea of looking for a job that fits their degree, rather than deciding beforehand what job they want, asking around with people who are already in that field, and then determine what path they need to take to get there.
I understand if they had a job in mind at the beginning, then they changed their mind, and are trying to make due with the education they have. But that hardly ever seems the case. They seem to say "I chose this degree because people said you can get a high paying job with this degree." Well, WHAT job? Have you talked to actual people with those jobs? Have you talked to the people who hire those people? Do you know what cities offer those jobs? Do you know if you'd enjoy that job, about what it entails, if it's worth it? Do you have backup plans for if that career doesn't work out?