Absolutely refuse to date anyone who isn't a virgin. I'm saving myself for marriage and I expect the same

Only in royalty, which you aren't

Yes they will because you were too dumb and or proud to settle. You've reached the point where you are past your peak, any virgin can get a better man than you so you either have to compromise and marry used goods or die a virgin since I can gaurentee any w virgin has multiple better men available than you.

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find a forum that specializes in virgins or something similar....or something like christian mingle and put youre a virgin thats searching for a virgin...or something

You've got three options

1. Die alone as a virgin
2. Wait for a virgin girl to show up AND also be wife material
3. Go get your dick wet so you can realize how little being a virgin or not means in the grand scheme of things and move on with your life

I personally suggest the third option but to each his own

I would understand rape or molestation. But I want someone who wants to wait for marraige

If you're going to be that stubborn your only option is religious dating apps or church meetings or whatever.

You're not going to get any sympathy here because you're being unrealistic.

It's upsetting that the harm done to you as a child cannot be undone

>the harm done to you as a child cannot be undone
You really think so? Fuck. I look at so many of my friends who just seem to not even take virginity into consideration with girls. Is there really no way to change my thinking? I'd rather not care

>seem to

No user it's that they straight up don't even factor it into the equation. The only time I've ever even thought about it is if the girl seems sketchy enough to have an STD in which case I wouldn't even pursue it.

And if you don't want to care I guarantee you won't once you actually have sex with someone

Another thread of roasties defending teir behavior to men not wanting them.

>men try to give other men advice
>impossible! It must be those evil roasties!

Damn, dude. Die a virgin. See if I give a shit. Just trying to help you out

Good girls dont sleep around. Good girls date to marry. They dont do serial monogamy

pretty much cant expect any girl past maybe age 19 to be a virgin due to our degenerate culture. having meaningless sex isn't shamed anymore and that's the issue. user your only choice is to join some sort of church and try an attract an 18 year old.

The only way ill marry a non virgin if she was raped/abused or that her previous spouse who she gave her virginity to died.

I'm gonna be too old by the time I get out of grad school in 2 years. Fucking shit

Liar. In no time in history have people dated without sex until marriage. Marriage was made immediately without dating. Dating is a new concept. Dating without sex is a new retarded concept.

Those of you who want a virgin girl: how would you even know she is a virgin? Maybe she is lying to you to cover your insecurities.

Ever consider working facilities for a middle school?

Thered a way to respectfully ask this sensitive question without sounding judgemental

>that's all people will think of me, someone who took someones damaged goods

that makes no sense. no one else is running around marrying virgins and thinking about how everyone else is some loser who got damaged goods. thats not remotely close to whats happening. if it was then there'd still be virgins left to date

She could still lie. Especially since asking such a question shows massive insecurity.

Insecurity meme. Doesn't person have a right to know of their pitentiql spouse sexual history? It is a spouses business.

Trust is a foundation of a relationship if my girlfriend lied to me that would severely damage our relationship

You don't have the right to know squat. If she doesn't want to talk about her past you either deal with it or break up.

No, they don't.

How would you know they lied?

While your ambition is admirable there comes a point when you have to make some concessions to reality. Any woman in your age group who is still a virgin is at least as likely to have some psychological and emotional issues as to be saving her purity for you.

The mere fact that a 20+ woman is not a virgin does not make her a slut, any more than the fact that she is makes her wife material

You and your spouse belong to each other of course you have every right because thise things afftect relationships and family. Such degeneracy

Why does Jow Forums dex nd roasties more than /soc/? At least there sluts know they are sluts and know no good man woulf wife them. I respect a self admitted slut over some rostie making excuses why good men dont want her

Why are incels like you shitting on Jow Forums instead of staying on your containment board?

Im no incel i get offer from sluts all the time but Im only looking for a wife

You are choosing to die a virgin, how are you not an incel?

That's literally the opposite of an incel. This dude is voluntarily celibate, not involuntarily celibate.

roam around high schools

Incels are voluntarily celibate. They just lie about it.

Not all men are horny degenerates

Literally this

How is this related to the topic?

OP, your religion is important to you obviously because you haven't just hired an escort. If I were you I would ignore what the majority of people in this thread are saying and go on an app like Christian Mingle or go to a Catholic Church to find your qt. if you are ever to be find a virgin, you need to find someone who cares about your religion as much as you care about it

I'm not religious at all, but I have no idea where you would listen to anybody's telling you to do something you have been raised to believe is a sin

Asiandating.com

Go there, search for 18 year old from Vietnam or Philippines but not a major city.

There you go.

>Marriage was made immediately without dating
literally this.
back then you would just marry someone the same day you met them, if not it was just someone you knew beforehand unromantically.

>there are people ITT that would pick a girl who was raped over a girl that has had some consensual sex in her life
how out of touch is this fucking board?

You males sound real feminine. I'm pretty sure under normal circumstances you don't have a vagina or hymen therefore it's literally impossible for you to be a virgin that term only applies to females.

Look you got three options keep looking until you find a chaste women with solid character traits,settle or practice polygyny the choice is yours.

Everything else is redundant nonsense.

Hey same, i understand you, i also want someone who'd wait til marriage. Idk its rare but i still hope ill end up with someone who value it.

Do you think decent virgin girls would use a dating app???? Uh i dont think so.

Not him but I'd honestly just be single forever and keep fucking whores than commit myself to a woman who's had sex with someone other than me

Have your parents get you into an arranged marriage. There are services for this.
Might be in some 6th world country or something without basic plumbing and no internet, but sometimes you have to make sacrifices

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>Noura was just 16 when the first part of her forced marriage took place, arranged by her father and a man she didn’t want to marry.

>Noura told her husband that she did not want to be touched, but he got his cousins to pin her down and he raped her. The next day he tried to rape Noura again – but this time she tried to defend herself and in the ensuing struggle, he died.

She got her death sentence repealed by the power of social justice.
Even in 6th world countries they have internet and girls don't want to be forced into marriage with dirty old men.

I wish her good fucking luck trying to hide something so obvious for as long as our several-year pre-marriage period especially considering I'm especially good at spotting lies.

>there are people ITT that would pick a person who voluntarily smacked their car to bits with a hammer, and then tried to justify it by saying "it's insignificant really", over a person whose car was damaged in an traffic accident
How out of touch are YOU?

I was thinking of services in India where both the woman and man were willing to be put into an arranged marriage, not children forced into it.

Arranged marriages aren't done at the barrel of a gun. It's more like "matchmaking" where the family and other families try to get two people of the same age to meet each other, and see if they hit it off or not. It's basically like an old fashioned dating service. I know people who were met through family arrangement but ended up breaking apart soon after cause they didn't get along. It's not like they are forced to marry at the barrel of a gun.

>How out of touch are YOU?
comparing vaginas to car crashes, nice, you're a true intellectual powerhouse. I sincerely hope you run across a girl that has gone through molestation one day, and see how it actually is.

Both are a net loss.
One case being result of an external force one has no influence over, and the other of willing destruction of said property.

Sure, the monetary/physical loss is the same and not any less significant in either case (this is where your molestation victim claims are), but the latter raises lots of questions about someone mental health.
Why would someone lessen their worth as a person and do it purposefully and willingly?

It's an apt analogy. If not I'd like to hear why.

Your analogy is bloody awful.
You forget about the dopamine that is conceived after sex.
That is one of the biggest reason people are having sex , for the pleasure.
You just seem like a dumb fuck that didnt have a round of sex in their entire life.
>muh purity
A virgin is more likely to be needy and clingy which can deteriorate a relationship.t
You put too much value in this insignificant factor.

You're salty as fuck. When you have sex, it decreases your value for future partners, fucking deal with it.

Meanwhile we'll look to marry women who haven't been pumped and dumped because they actually respected their bodies

you’re going to die a virgin

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>meanwhile we will look for women
You wont because no woman would actually be interested in you.
We can see this from your personality and how fucking shitty you are

Are you male or female?
Religious?
Career?

Jow Forums is generally level-headed but there has been an influx of raging incels from Jow Forums lately.

You did not answer the question. How will you know a girl is a virgin? You sound like you can't be older than 15.

Join a church. If you're gonna be a moralfag you might as well get the only benefit out of it.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a virgin and they are out there.
Try a Traditional Catholic singles group or such

Stick to anime you weeb

>Join a church bro

almost any girl that is remotely attractive and goes to church is technically a virgin, but she's also jerked off and sucked off more guys than she can count on her fingers and toes, and you also have born-again virgins.

There are virgin girls out there, in church and outside of church, but don't make it your one goal. You're setting yourself up for all sorts of disappointment.

>Why would someone lessen their worth as a person and do it purposefully and willingly?
I wonder the same exact thing. Why would someone willingly become an incel?

>Meanwhile we'll look to marry women who haven't been pumped and dumped because they actually respected their bodies
sure, good luck. tell r/braincels I said hello

>Since literally the dawn of humanity this has been expected.

At the dawn of humanity, even less women were virgins because humans just wanted to fuck and populate all the time.

Unless you think Krug cared about whether or not a girl slept with another man if it meant entering the gene pool before he dies at the ripe old age of 25.

The fact that a hymen is a thing proves you wrong.

>a hymen is a thing

Explain to me how it works, what it is, and how it's proof that primitive humans sat around going REEE ROASTIES GET OUT OF MY BOARD NO HYMEN NO DIAMOND like they do in 2018

Difference is, when this was expected women got married at 12-14

>I'm 26 now, what the fuck do I do?
Either accept the consequences of your choices or do some soul searching and rethink your standards. You've chosen a very difficult path. You're more entitled to your choice but you're kidding yourself if you believe that refusing to date anybody who isn't a virgin at nearly 30 years old isn't an incredibly difficult burden. The older you get the lower your chances get of meeting a virgin.

If you're really dead set on only dating virgins then you have effectively forfeited any right to complain about it. You made your bed and now you have to sleep about it. I'd recommend either becoming a member of an extremely tight knit religious community and courting a young girl through her father or taking a time machine back to 1832.

>The fact that a hymen is a thing proves you wrong.
Oh boy. I'd love to hear the explanation for this one. After you're done giving us a brief run down on the history of the hymen I wonder if it wouldn't be too much trouble to let us all know where you received your degree in evolutionary biology?

Krug did care, one of the biggest advantages humans have over other animals is that relationships ensure safety and proper development of our young, its something natural and has been instilled in us since the dawn of our existence. Being a whore doesn't mean you have a lot of kids.
They didn't say that because there was no need lol

>its something natural and has been instilled in us since the dawn of our existence
So where did you get your degree in evolutionary biology? You're making a lot of definitive scientific claims so I assume you either have actual science to back it up or you're highly trained in the subject matter.

I've taken a basic environmental science and biology class and understand the differences between r-selection and k-selection. There are inherent, instinctual behaviors people have always had which is why marriage has such a long standing history that predates Christianity and most other modern religions. The sexual revolution changed almost all of this but it doesn't mean that those instincts don't exist and it especially doesn't mean they never existed. Almost all species have very different social dynamics compared to one another and the one me and OP are describing has existed in some form almost forever.

>be me]
>be 26

Haha! Take that, Krug! You mammoth-brained tard! I'm alive and you died from a fungal growth in your lungs!

Now I get all the round boulders and hairy women!

>They didn't say that because there was no need lol

They also didn't care, they didn't even have concepts like being a whore or being prude or anything. They just humped each other because it felt good and sometimes a baby came out of one of them and sometimes it wasn't DOA.

>one of the biggest advantages humans have over other animals is that relationships ensure safety and proper development of our young

That's not exclusive to humans, confirmed for pulling shit out your dumb ass

Saying "lol they just hump and it feel good" is the dumbest shit i've seen written. Intricate social structures existed in some of the earliest humans since we've almost always operated under tribal structures even in hunter-gatherer systems. I also never said it was exclusive to humans, just something that gave us a big advantage because its relatively uncommon for a lot of species who just do it at random without forming those bonds (see lions for example).

>I also never said it was exclusive to humans

Yeah, you did

>one of the biggest advantages humans have over other animals

Then you changed your song to "uh I meant a lot of species"

>Intricate social structures existed in some of the earliest humans since we've almost always operated under tribal structures even in hunter-gatherer systems.

So you're an anthropologist with a minor in sociology now as well?

Some of the earliest artefacts of humanity are of big tits and big dicks, not people worshipping later concepts of virginity.

>I've taken a basic environmental science and biology class and understand the differences between r-selection and k-selection
So you're basically making logical leaps based on your existing knowledge of science and biology and have no actual evidence to support the specific claims you're making. You've made a specific claims about the sexual values and psychology of prehistoric man but, surprise surprise, have no actual evidence, anecdotal or otherwise to verify your assertion. You know as much about evolutionary biology as my cat knows about trigonometry.

I just said it was advantageous over other animals, not exclusive. Its still relatively uncommon, arguing this is pointless.
You don't need a bachelors degree to discuss basic human nature, big tits and big dicks aren't the only thing that matters. Standards aren't all just artificial, they can help to ensure healthy offspring because you naturally don't want to fuck an old lady or someone who looks sick as shit. Virginity has always been an important concept as people would generally prefer to maintain exclusivity within a relationship.
You've also cited no evidence, i could copy and paste your response and put it here.

I think OP is autistic, but saying "lol cavemen don't give a shit you're autistic for thinking virginity has any historical precedent" is entirely erroneous.

The belief that the monogamy as you describe it is as something "biologically" determined through evolution is so goddamn wrong, I'm actually considering wasting my time explaining why. Do you actually care that, OP, or are you just looking for Jow Forums to be your hugbox?

>Virginity has always been an important concept as people

[citation needed]

>You've also cited no evidence, i could copy and paste your response and put it here.
Why would I cite any evidence? I haven't made any scientific claims. You see, when someone makes a scientific claim it is that person's responsibility to provide evidence that they are correct, not everyone else's responsibility to provide evidence that proves them wrong. This concept is something we all learned in grade school. Your inability to understand basic, 7th grade scientific principal has shed some lot of light on your inane ramblings. Basically you're talking out of your ass. You made a scientific claim with no education or science to back it up and are now becoming butt flustered because the entire thread is calling you out on your bullshit.

>Virginity has always been an important concept as people would generally prefer to maintain exclusivity within a relationship.
It is strikingly obvious that you have never cracked a history book.

>I just said it was advantageous over other animals, not exclusive.

Maybe English is not your first language, but saying that "x is advantageous over other animals" means "other animals" and not "some or maybe most animals".

Perhaps you were being intentionally vague.

I never said monogamy but relationships period, even in polygamous societies it would almost always be multiple women and one man who would stay together.
Humans being k selection is common knowledge, its why we don't have litters of children like other animals do.
If implied any 100% exclusivity it wasn't on purpose its still an uncommon trait among most species and i never meant to imply it was 100% exclusive to us, move on.

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There is absolutely no evolutionary advantage to mating with a virgin perhaps you're confusing that with making sure you were the last person that fucked your mate before a baby pops out by keeping other males away from her? Which is pretty much what all social mammals do like baboons, lions, etc

You can fuck as many virgins as you want and then can go fuck someone else that afternoon and get knocked up by them instead and your precious "hymen" meant nothing.

You're just fucking retarded t b h m8

You keep saying things but none of them are sources or proof of any of the scientific claims you're making about evolutionary biology. Yet again you fail to grasp the scientific concepts we were all taught in the 7th grade. You're just embarrassing yourself, user. I don't know why its so difficult to just admit you're talking out of your ass.

Lel why would you want to date a virgin who has no idea what she's doing in bed and in a relationship.

A girl with more experience would be good for you, as she can teach you more about everything in a relationship (including but not exclusively sex) so you don't make as many mistakes and she doesn't get as frustrated when you don't "get" things.

An example of r-selection are rats, k selection species are like bears or humans with limited off spring. You're asking for me to cite a scientific source saying that humans are bi-pedal. Everyone knows this. If evidence is so crucial provide something backing up your claim there was no structure even though this is observable going back thousands of years. You have the burden of proof.

>No, cavemen and earlier humans didn't care about virginity at all

Wrong. It was crucial for cavemen to care about a woman's sexual promiscuity because the only guarantee they had that they would pass on their genes was that the woman they'd impregnate was actually pregnant from them and not another dude.