Why is illegal immigration bad, exactly...

so this is the power of paid jewish shilling

>bring down wages on jobs that are often already low paid
>steal social security numbers
>don’t pay many taxes
>suck up finite resources for housing, education, law enforcement, healthcare
>are counted in the census which means that Congress is apportioned taking them into account
>are voting no matter what liberals say

cuck thread

Thanks for the serious answer. Makes sense to me.
>no actual reasons. Just "is bad"

>I always see people argue that it fills employment
Yeah, there's the problem. Flooding the labor market is only good for the slave drivers who profit off it.
>shitty jobs that nobody wants at slave wages
Ftfy. They could employ Americans if they paid American wages. But they'd rather have spics who will work for slave wages.

>shitty jobs that nobody wants,
= starter jobs everyone needs

You fucking boomer

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>implying I actually like beaners here
I was just asking a question, faggo

fill you in, you must be a pussy. go home
mongolian.

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1. When you let people immigrate illegally they cost the American tax payer and don't contribute. Democrats ensure that in sanctuary cities people have *motivation* in the form of free health care, free money, free housing, etc. to come in and vote democrat. The tax base pays for all of this.

2. Said immigrants if unchecked can smuggle drugs in without repercussions. Look at all the deaths that come from counterfit oxycodone pills that are actually made from shitty black tar heroine made by the Mexican cartels... The addiction issue is our problem, the deaths these drugs cause is our problem, but the Mexican cartels *fault*.

3. When you have everyone competing for low end jobs, they have no leverage to get better pay or perform better. Wanna take a sick day? You're fired, I can replace you with some bum off the street in minutes. You kick out all the illegals, businesses pay more, sure, but workers can now actually compete and have motivation to perform better since they can actually be payed a better wage.

4. Look at our unemployment rate. It's 3.7%, and are the businesses screaming for more toilet cleaners? Is anyone yelling at trump that they can't find anyone to babysit their kids or dust their furniture in their mansions or fill their cashier positions? Fuck. No. This is the great lie. The demand isn't there for low end jobs. All those jobs are being replaced by fucking robots. On the other hand if you know Microsoft Excel or can write decent java code or know how to maintain and configure a Juniper router, if you know physics, higher end maths, science, engineering, etc, you can actually get a job. They people coming in from the south are uneducated, utterly entitled, and looking for free shit because they were TOLD it would be easy and they would get free shit.

washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/12/migrant-caravan-members-demand-50000-apiece-go-bac/

Thank you

The problem is incentives.

If you can permenantly guarantee that there were no welfare state, no high taxes, a free market, limited voting franchise and a very limited government, you can have all the immigration you want.

Welfare + mass immigration. The productive class doesn't change in size. The welfare class increases exponentially. Do the math.

Many other cultural, educational, crime issues, ect., but the first reason is all you need.

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like everything, there's pro's & con's frendo.

>crimanal waist of du bs
Lets ship niggers to Isreal and find out

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The most obvious one is that letting people get away with breaking the law reduces respect for the law. There's no point having rules if they're not enforced. Why immigrate legally if you can ignore the rules and get the same outcome? And if you find out that it works that way for immigration, why respect the other rules? Doesn't it become obvious that there are no principles at play, only power?

>it fills employment for shitty jobs that nobody wants
>implying there's jobs people don't want

Modern industrialized nations have negative birthrates.

If immigration was frozen the country's with large carbon footprints would naturally shrink down their pollution by lack of polluters.

The hordes of immigrants coming to the industrialized nations are coming from countrys underdeveloped with less pollution per capita then where they are going.

If you care about the planet and lowering the carbon emissions you want frozen borders with zero immigration.

There is also a big difference between the immigrants of 200 years ago who came and created a modern industrialized civilization in an entire continent of unsettled lands vs coming to a post industrialized country for financial benefits.

There are no pros.

It directly undermines the sovereignty of your nation for one.

Everything is stupid. Mankind has ruined everything by being greedy fucking cunts. All I ever needed was a good paying job, and I have one. I work hard and earn an honest living. For some reason it’s not even close enough to buy a home and raise a family. So thanks for nothing. As the Lord giveth, he can take away.

Increase supply of labor -> keep wages low and profits high
Increase demand for housing -> poor and young can rent forever off their boomer land barons

>There are no pros.
Unless you own a business with a high demand for sub-minwage labor

Identity theft.

It’s unsexy as fuck. It’s not like being beheaded, but it sucks trying to unscramble some shit that a pos illegal immigrant caused you.

I got laid off once and wasn’t able to claim unemployment because some squatemalen took my SSN and filed taxes as me. My name is Irish as fuck too. Anyway, it took me 8 months to unscramble it all. When I finally get notice that I could get unemployment benefits, I had gotten a new job 5 months before.

Remember when we were told "don't have kids! The world is going to be overpopulated!!!!"
Then the people telling us that opened the borders and handed fucking checks to everybody who come running into Amedica!
So the roads are packed and you are stuck in traffic ANYWAY.
So the schools are overcrowded ANYWAY.
So the municipal systems are overburdened and costs go up ANYWAY.
And all those people who came flocking in will reproduce like rabbits on your dime, and then vote for more, as well as vote your freedom and rights down the fucking toilet.
Not only do they all have to go back, but everybody who aided and abetted them need to be shipped along with them. Exiled.
And their families too.

>Why is illegal immigration bad, exactly?
OP typed this with a straight face.

>Stagnated wages due to saturated labor pool
>"doing sh2irty jobs no one wants"? Who did those jobs before employers could lower wages so far that only 3rd world refuse could live on them?
>stolen identities are the only way for these people to operate
>they take welfare because the "shitty jobs" they overfill pay so little and because they are lazy
>they're non-whites and we don't want them here at all

Does that answer your question?

surprised no one posted this yet

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What is automation you faggot?

See, Hart-Celler act.

>I always see people argue that it fills employment for shitty jobs that nobody wants,

People are willing to do those jobs, just not for literal slave wages. Illegals are willing to work for those slave wages because if they complain, they are afraid of being deported.

I just don't want brown people thinking is ok to break laws. This law is a good stepping stone for them to get in the habit of being law abiding citizens. If they can't come her legally, than how can I expect them to do anything legal on America? I need to know they truly do care about our way of life.

I wouldn't be bothered by it if it were coming from white first-world countries. My grandmother illegally immigrated here from England in the Fifties.

I live in an area where there a lot of illegals from Ireland and also a lot of illegal Mexicans/Central Americans, the Irish people are foreigners but at least they speak English and are willing try to assimilate.

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>Why is illegal immigration bad, exactly?
Because there is no way to keep non-citizens from voting, working and committing other crimes.

Pretty much this. The only thing that really matters is the type of immigrants who come, now the way that they come. Of course no one should be able to come illegally, but most of the legal immigrants aren't people that we want either.

Or it's a 12 year old who's just starting to become politically aware. This doesn't really have the feel of a shill thread.

I agree with this. To me it's not as important how the immigrants get here as it is who they are. But ideally we'd still be able to control the process.

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If these immigrants were economically valuable, the country they're fleeing would not be a shit hole. That leaves just one possibility: these illegal immigrants are nothing but a social and economic detriment. Simple as that

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Slave labor
Good and bad

>shitty jobs that nobody wants
Name one and its going price.

It's a b8 thread you memeflag nonce

Because they fucking skin the sons of their enemies alive you monster

Rule of law.

>4.8 billion in Illinois.
People from India get to stay there 7 years tax free and stick up whole fucking neighborhoods