Okay can someone fill me in on the "Jews are hypocrites because ethnostate Israel" argument? This country is literally 20% Arab Muslim. Also more generally what are the better entry level anti-Israel arguments?
Israel the "ethnostate"
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there's no such argument
who cares. theyre all gonna die soon LOL
Israel exists only to ensure the ME countries continue with the petrodollar. The Rothschilds created Israel because oil was discovered in the ME in 1932 (Bahrain) and 1938 (Damann No. 7). They shipped European Jews to Israel because they knew Jews would be retarded enough to defend a piece of the desert with their lives.
>Greater Israel is a meme.
>Keeping Israel small is what the elites want because this gives the Arabs hope of destroying Israel
>Israel fucking imports consumer goods. Which country other than Pakistan imports consumer goods?
>Israel exists only to ensure the ME countries continue with the petrodollar.
how so ? if a nation abandons it we dont care and do nothing .
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>if a nation abandons it we dont care and do nothing .
Well, you shouldn't have come to Jow Forums sabra. Ok, here goes.
1) Herzl wanted a Jewish homeland (jackass bought into his own image).
2) Herzl bullies the Rothschilds.
3) The Rothschilds don't give a fuck about normie Jews, but they want to get rid of Herzl who threatens damage to the Rothschilds with his power.
4) The Rothschilds do the minimum required to get rid of Herzl - The Balfour declaration. Which literally says nothing other than the British Aristocracy sympathizes with the Zionist movement's desire to establish a homeland in Palestine.
5) Rothschilds tell Herzl to fuck off and he does.
6) 20 years go by and Standard Oil and America are the best oil producers until in 1932 oil is found in Bahrain and in 1938 oil is found in Saudi Arabia (Damann 7).
7) WW2 happens and the western elites realize the importance of oil - Hitler invaded Russia to try and obtain their oil fields.
8) Saudis are willing to trade with the west, but they're coy about it.
9) The west wants to secure ME oil trade, but they can't risk open war in the desert.
10) The west needs a discreet army in the ME and remembers the Balfour declaration.
11) Jews are shipped to Palestine because the west knows Jews are retarded enough to defend a piece of the desert with their lives.
12) All Sabras are soldiers whose main purpose is to antagonize the Arabs with their existence (Jews from Isaac and Muslims from Ishmael).
13) The west keeps pumping money and arms into Israel to keep it going - while Israel is the main military base of the west to ensure the Saudis don't get cold feet about the petrodollar.
>You got conned by your own people.
>how so ? if a nation abandons it we dont care and do nothing .
Also, no one cares if you care about the petrodollar or not. Your country exists to ensure the Saudis don't renege on the petrodollar. No one cares if Israel wants the petrodollar or not.
we literally never antagonized any arabs , your premise is dumb
Top fucking Kek, you stupid Jew are you serious?
>we literally never antagonized any arabs
Kek. Never mind. You have the information Sabra. I don't expect you to accept it. The reason why you're a Jew is because your ancestors were Jewish fanatics who wouldn't convert to Christianity even when they were persecuted.
>Of course you'll believe that you're home because you're home.
Name one instance of Israel antagonizing any Arab state
In order to emigrate there you've to prove you are racially born of a jewess. Its that simple ? Ethnography is the basis for full citizenship and permission to enter and settle the land the Israeli government controls.
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>The only ones who can Jew a Jew are Jews themselves.
>Rothschilds are the king of Jews.
>Israel will be all alone once the ME runs out of oil.
user...you're probably one of the people who talks endless shit about muslim immigrants "invading" europe and mexican immigrants "invading" the US. What sort of fucking mental gymnastics do you have to do to be anti-ethnostate and pro-ethnostate?
The absolute fucking state of right-wing extremists...
I thought the last invasion and bombing of Lebanon was gratuitous... They had freed themselves from civil war and horror, Syrian occupation in areas, and Israel needlessly began to attack a famous intersting area of the levant. BIG mistake
Israel will fall
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>This country is literally 20% Arab Muslim
>Implying there is a difference between Arabs Levantines,
>Got fired from a spook agency recently.
>Saudis realized that Europe and America are under Jewish influence.
>Saudis along with other ME countries push for mulsim migrants to the west to gain more influence the policy and decision making process.
>Western leaders don't want Jewish aristocracy (NY and British Jews) to run things and thus they accept.
>U.S. can't refuse entirely because of the petrodollar.
I was a data analyst. I'm neither right-wing nor left-wing. I'm apathetic to politics.
>You're welcome.
All states fail. Its retaining control of your land that persists. The Germans have been sitting on the Rhine for two thousand years. Rome never changes. The highlanders are still in their mountains and the atlantic islands.
Well that was misguided. Saudis spent billion trying to oust Syrian government. US simply killed as many sunnis as possible and is now exiting the theater.
But the "state" is not 20% Muslim because they immigrated and promotion of open borders or multiculturalism but because this land was always Muslim and 80% are invaders. Another kikery, oy vey.
>US simply killed as many sunnis as possible and is now exiting the theater.
Here's the real deal if you're up for it.
>Israel got tired of being the pawn of NY and British Jews.
>They began to back pro-Israel candidates.
>NY Jews couldn't do anything lest they get ostracized by the American Jewish community.
>After 2 failed attempts, Israel finally succeeded in getting their candidate elected.
>The White House used to be the P.R. wing of the military-industrial complex.
>Countries had to buy influence with Congressmen and women to influence local American business laws, and buy favor with the military-industrial complex to influence global laws.
>Israel is trying to bypass this by getting the power back to the White House.
>Trump is existing the Syrian and Afghan theaters to pressure the military-industrial complex into sharing power with the White House.
>The MI complex is responding by draining all the money from the market to create a false panic to hit back at Trump.
You're welcome.
Yes, but that wasnt the contention. How things arose in the present state. But rather the circumstance where Israel is actually wuite polyglot. Sephardim, Arabs, more or less gentile Russians and an Ashkenazi educated european elite.
>This country is literally 20% Arab Muslim
and falling, they would genocide them in an instant if they knew the world was not watching them.
>20% arab
and those arabs arent muslim user.... try again you hooknosed inbred since you stole the land from the native people murdering and raping them only to now put over 6 million of them in one large concentration camp.
All vague nonsense. No wonder you got whacked. Absurdities which no educated man would sonsider plausible. Stick to facts. The United States has killed hundreds of thousands of sunni mulsims in the territory of what we refer to as syria in the last two years. This directly contravened the efforts of the saudis, israel, the cia under obama, turkey, myriad otehr actors. Those are the facts. Obscure theoretical insights are meanigless in the face of dead direct actors.
as usual, your mear existence on the same patch of land reduces even the most backward savages to want to go to war with you, repugnant rat faced cunts. Merry Christmas schlomo.
I don't know if you mean well, or you're just a troll. But here is a fact. The U.S. doesn't kill Sunnis because the Saudis are Sunnis. So when you say
>US simply killed as many sunnis as possible
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about unless you're referring to the CIA.
Also,
>The United States has killed hundreds of thousands of sunni mulsims in the territory of what we refer to as syria in the last two years.
No. CIA backed actors did that.
>This directly contravened the efforts of the saudis, israel, the cia under obama, turkey, myriad otehr actors.
Yeah, well. If you are troll, you need to get your actors/coalitions right.
Ya, true, but they had to get out of Europe after the German experience. The great miscalculation was attempting to extract resources from that most reductionist race. Ultimate force met ultimate guile with predictable results.
Jerusalem was a sparsely occupied outpost of the ottoman empire with barely a stoplight and dirt roads when the British capured it in 1918. No wonder the jews fled back there. easy target.
Lebanon attacked us for decades before that
None of these have anything to do with israeli antagonism , all have to do with antagonism of other nations
Wrong. You rats are always the aggressors in every single scenario.
I support Israel’s right to kill towel heads, build a wall and defend its borders. But I am beginning to wonder why so many american jews lose their fucking minds when america tries to do the same thing that their own people do.
You want to see the bodies ? visit raqqa and a dozen other small cities in the former syria. In its essence a religious war with the major factions sunni monarchies versus shia arabs and the persians.Israel aligned with the sunnis, tacit and ultimately overt military aid. US switched sides about two years ago and destroyed the Sunni proxies in Syria. Banged out perhaps 500K
Sparse light arms engagements *
you mean like how wh*tes will be outnumbered, outbred and slaughtered by non-wh*tes who have been indoctrinated from birth to hate wh*tes?
Thats called the diaspora strategy.
along with the Russians of course, which was much more decisive.
Don't forget about the different Jew groups too. Half of the Jews in isreal are from Arab countries
Tolerating any agression from any foreign nation is unacceptable, lebs attacked us so we had to invade
The arabs have no power. Ethno states require the ethnicity to have all the power. Jews have that there.
Like I said. Get your facts right before you set out to troll.
>In its essence a religious war with the major factions sunni monarchies
The Al-Assad family is part of the Shia minority in Syria. That is why there was an uprising in the first place. Syria is predominantly Sunni (as is the rest of the Arab world), but were being ruled by a Shia elite (minorities in the Arab world).
>versus shia arabs
Sunni arabs
>and the persians
Iranians are majority Shia.
>US switched sides about two years ago and destroyed the Sunni proxies in Syria. Banged out perhaps 500K
Wow, your intel is worse than what we used to feed our enemies.
Absolutism doesn't work for small nations Noam. Exposed the flaws in your army with possible great consequence given the vast trained forces and battle hardened armies that are now in your direct north. That shit worked in the 1950s.
There's no armies north of us , some shitty second rate millitias maybe
Thats what happens in civil war. Jumbling alliances. Largely shia Christian now with returning Sunni to be sure. Christians tend to a mercantile elite in the levant. In any case, the American fighting forces, heavily rural, southern men, are out of that place thank god
Those guys have been through the wars now as the brits used to say about long lost returning soldiers... never underestimate that.
Syria is as safe as it's ever been , it's pre 2007 that it was a danger
>None of these have anything to do with israeli antagonism , all have to do with antagonism of other nations
Yeah, I sympathize with your situation. Your country was created to get all Arab states to attack you. From the beginning, the British aristocracy knew that sending you to Palestine would cause instability in the ME. They could have sent you to China, India, Australia, Honk Kong, but they sent you to Palestine. Do you know why? Because you will defend your land with your blood only if that land was Palestine. It didn't help that as soon as Israel was formed, all Arab states wanted you out of their lands like a host rejecting a virus. Money and weapons were sent to you, and things in the ME have been unstable since.
>Saudis agree to the petrodollar only because the west has been threatening the expansion of Israel for 6 decades.
Kike jews are getting nervous. There's so few of you and so many of us.
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Israel never threatened conquering the Saudis much less doing so because of their monetary policy
The state was established because judea is our Homeland and always has been , suggesting it can be anywhere else is like asking Russias to abandon Russia and arbitrarily resettle in South America
>In any case, the American fighting forces, heavily rural, southern men, are out of that place thank god
The troops will be sent back to Afghanistan in the next 10 years. There exist contingency plans for re-militarization of Afghanistan in the event the troops are pulled back from there.
>Afghan opium is too valuable to let go.
Maybe your are right. Shot their load and the many dead... The actors are more entrenched however. Shia crescent is undeniably more viable than say 25 years ago, say pre iraq 2 US invasion.
>we only ethnically cleansed, murdered them and took their land
>in fact it was so bad, even Albert Einstein called us out on our bullshit and wanting Nothing to do with us
Yeah nice.
>Israel never threatened conquering the Saudis much less doing so because of their monetary policy
No. Your country is just a pawn in a very big game. The west threatens Saudis with Israel. You see, there is a reason why you're given resources in such a small land. Look at the pic attached. The population of Israel has been growing linearly since the 1950s. This is true even though you import practically everything from oil to consumer goods. You're being primed for expansion. You can't fit 8.5 million people on a small plot of land for long.
>The state was established because judea is our Homeland and always has been
Yes, that is what most Jews and Sabras believe. But that's not the real reason why your state was established.
>suggesting it can be anywhere else is like asking Russias to abandon Russia and arbitrarily resettle in South America
No. Unlike the Jews, Russians have never lived outside their homeland for 2 millennia before being returned there. Jews were mainly expatriates since the time the Romans destroyed the second temple. Jews had acclimatized to living in Europe. Sending you to the desert among hostile nations instead of a more friendly environment was part of a plan.
>I sympathize with you because even you are unaware of the part you're playing in this game.
>Tolerating any agression from any foreign nation is unacceptable X attacked us so we had to invade
Wow, never thought I'd see an Israeli admit that Hitler did Nothing wrong
Lavon affair you fucking disingenuous yid
'the west' has zero influence on Israel , the most drastic thing it can do is an embargo on us and that's not politically possible in most western states
>'the west' has zero influence on Israel
On your internal politics? No. The west actively avoids influencing internal matters of Israel to keep the momentum going.
>the most drastic thing it can do is an embargo on us and that's not politically possible in most western states
I don't know what to tell you. Your answer is based on your assumption that the west is not capable of cutting off all your supplies and permanently wiping out your existence. In the event of Israel going rogue, the US has plans to simply cut off all aid to you and green light an Arab attack on your country. You'd be defenseless in no time. The U.S. bases are strategically placed all over ME to defend YOU. Wars have been orchestrated only to ensure you're protected - and the U.S. has a reason to invade all ME countries if they attack you. You would not be able to withstand the full force of the Arab states without external aid.
>Israel is the bait that the west has long hoped the Arab states will swallow whole.
And the hypocrisy is missed, yet again. Some chosen people of god. Gonna red pill ya. Your religion is fake and it shows by your lack of self sustained power. Relying on other nations and the work of the "goyim". how pathetic.
Again 'the west' can only do this if it's all United against us in iran-style sanctions which is extremely unlikely
Even then we still have tons of countries outside the west to trade with. Most investment in Israel is already non western
Israeli foreign policy is exclusively to benefit us , not foreign interests
>Even then we still have tons of countries outside the west to trade with.
What products, of value, do you produce that you can trade with other nations that cannot be provided by any nation other than Israel?
>Again 'the west' can only do this if it's all United against us in iran-style sanctions which is extremely unlikely
>Again 'the west' can only do this if it's all United against us in iran-style sanctions which is extremely unlikely
>Again 'the west' can only do this if it's all United against us in iran-style sanctions which is extremely unlikely
>Again 'the west' can only do this if it's all United against us in iran-style sanctions which is extremely unlikely
Articulate your argument for me.
Nothing but then there's no nation with exclusively over a sector . We export pharmaceuticals,cut diamonds,refined petrolium,and tech including millitary and medical . We have the second best startup tech center in the world
Exclusivity*
Depends what you mean by "Ethno-State" OP. I have a feeling you assume "100% one ethnicity.
Personally, I think a better way of describing Israel would be a state that has some ethno-nationalist policies in place. Australia (as I'm sure you would have been taught in school, thanks to the Left) also had ethno-nationalist policies up until the mid 1970s.
>20% Arab Muslim
are these the ones that live in walled off districts and have curfews?
What ethnonationalist policies are there in straya?
Id define Israel as a normal nation state not any of that stuff
>Nothing
Right, so you're expendable.
>but then there's no nation with exclusively over a sector
What difference does it make when you're expendable?
>We export pharmaceuticals
America is the top Pharma country in the world. So your luck runs out if you go rogue.
>cut diamonds
Diamonds have been stored by De Beers for ages, and what's sold on the market is a small portion of what's mined and cut. So you're out of luck there too.
>refined petrolium
Far too many western countries to list here.
>tech including millitary and medical
Once again the U.S. leads military, followed by Russia and China.
>We have the second best startup tech center in the world
I'm not sure that will be missed if your country is isolated by the U.S.
Look. I'm not trying to argue about the greatness of your country. I'm only trying to tell you that you're all pawns in a bigger game. Having said that, I don't expect you to agree. Everything that's around you is the way it is because the petrodollar depends on Israelis defending Israel. If you started accepting what I told you, then the petrodollar party will end for us. That will never be allowed to happen.
Israeli policy doesn't care about monatery policies of our neighbors as I said . Every nation on Earth is expandable in your definition
>Every nation on Earth is expandable in your definition
Except U.S.A, Saudi Arabia, China, India, Germany, Bolivia, Colombia, Mexico, Canada, Taiwan,....
>There is nothing of value produced in Israel that cannot be produced elsewhere if Israel goes rogue.
Anyway. I don't want to continue this conversation since it's not in your interest to agree. You're better off not agreeing. Have a happy new year.
The Israeli left is waaay more ethno-centric than David Duke. The proof is that the Israeli Left/Labor party could have ruled Israel continuously for 70 years, but they preferred not having power in the Knesset to forming a coalition with the 20% goyim in the Knesset.
No Jewish party has ever formed an alliance with the Arabs/Muslims/Goyim in the Israeli parliament. Left and right don't matter in Israel. Only Jewish/Goyishe divide matters.
Jews will tell you with a straight face that Israel is a democracy and that the Arabs have representation in Parliament/Knesset. But these same Jews will never tell you that all Jews refuse to form a governing coalition with the Arabs/Muslims/Goyim. As such, the Arab "representation" in Parliament is nothing but empty symbolism. And Jews will stutter when they realize that you know this.
Even George Soros/Alex Soros/Bernie Sanders/Noam Chomsky do not want the Israeli left/Labor Party to form a governing coalition with ze Arabs. Even Bernie Sanders would rather Netanyahu rule, or somebody even further to the right, than have a ruling coalition that includes filthy goyim.
Israel isn't an ethno-state, it's a religious enclave
a polish and Ethiopian kike are not the same ethnicity
>Greater Israel is a meme
BS. Lil Bush DOD laid out the plans for Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria then Iran in that order.
They were stopped in Syria.
Stay mad Kike
>fill me in
that sound funny from a Atrazine boipussy like you walaroo hehehehe
you sure don't ..
reality vs fantasy.
because you rat kikes stole that land in the 67 war.
kill yourself
you are a fucking moron OP.
The entire conflict in Israel is due to the jewish rejection of civic nationalism, the arabs in Israel are not welcome and are discriminated against by the state.
If Israel were to become civic nationalist they be quickly overrun by arabs that outbreed them and their jewish state would become a muslim one.
>20% Arab Muslim
Used to be 100%.
If you add in the territories it's over 50% Arab.
itt retarded polacks
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