I'm femanon and I've never had luck with guys so I'm considering trying girls. But i have no idea where to start...and are girls going to be put off by my lack of experience or will they be more understanding?
I know guys here think virginal girls are hot, but that's not been my irl experience.
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Thats fucking bullshit you just never gotna chance to fuck chad narukami so you decide to be gay for chad.
>choosing to go gay
>”being gay is NOT a choice”
Lol. What a joke
Ethernal summer is upon is.
>I'm femanon and I've never had luck with guys so I'm considering trying girls.
If you've never had any luck with guys what makes you think you will with girls? There are far fewer lesbians and bishits than hetguys, and hetguys generally are dtf a lot of the time
Are you even attracted to women?
Tbf I've heard women talk like this irl before. Well, not women, generally teenage girls.
it's a choice for me. i don't think it's a choice for everyone.
i'm already attracted to women, though i prefer men. i just need to, you know, cultivate it.
i have short hair and strong features and get hit on by girls more often than men. i've always resisted it because i wanted a boyfriend, but guys mostly just harass me and try to sleep with me. none of them seem interested in more than that.
Fair enough. Don't go hurting these girls because you're not as interested in being with a woman though - maybe keep things casual so you don't break her heart by dropping her when a guy comes along
No lesbian wants to be some bicurious sluts experiment. Off youreself xd
I will admit that being the alpha in a relationship is appealing, because I'm always the needy one by default. But I don't want to hurt anyone.
I'm kind of worried about that. Are you a gay girl? Will I be just as shunned by them as I am by men?
Being a bishit doesn't make you alpha dawg, nor does it mean you hold all the cards.
While I'm kinda teasing with the bishit thing, it's true some lesbians find it offputting. Other user was right - no one wants to be an experiment (except perhaps other experimenting girls). You could try HER app and be honest in your profile - then people know what they're going in for and you'll filter out the people who won't be into it
Lesbians fucking hate women like you.
This. There are some lesbians that will still date you, of course, because it's a small pond but for fucks sake don't toy with her or just fuck off the moment you see some dick walk by. Of course I'm saying that knowing full well that you will.
My niggas
Leave lesbians alone you fucking retarded slut.
Thanks, I will get HER - I didn't know that was a thing.
I don't really get the big deal. Sexuality is fluid. I've always been a 1 on the Kinsey scale, I'm just looking to push it to a 2.
It's not, you're just a desperate whore who needs to make herself seem exciting for the next dick.
>I don't really get the big deal.
Yeah that's why you're such a loathsome cunt. You really see absolutely nothing wrong with literally seeking out people to USE because you think they'll be more "convenient" and "easier" to give you what you want with no regard for the fact that you're talking about peoples real feelings.
Like seriously, you're either a fucking stupid kid or a legitimately horrible person and I hope you die before you hurt anyone.
I'm totally hoping to meet someone I like and care about. Yes, convenience and availability are spurring it, but it's not like I'm looking to just get some strange to dump as soon as I find a guy who will take me.
Statistically that is exactly what you'll do. It's how bishits are.
I mean, I don't know. I've never been with a girl. I may not like it. I think I will though.
I'm a loyal person. If I were to meet someone I work with, I wouldn't just drop them for another person, male or female. I would drop them if it wasn't working though, as I think is anyone's right.
>guys mostly just harass me and try to sleep with me
Lesbians will do this too
Really? What is your experience with this?
>strong features
Being chubby doesn't make you strong, Alysha
I'm a Jow Forumsizen, dope. I mostly just have a strong jawline. I was mistaken for a guy a lot when I was younger. I've started wearing lowcut shirts and makeup and that has taken care of it.
>be gay for chad
ya wot m8
Gay for Gertrude*
Homosexuals cant have children and many live very promiscuous lives.
Id go as far to say their culture enjoys being slutty because they were shamed for so long. and kept in the dark.
I will say mature homosexuals who value monogamy are rare but they do exist.
I will say though you're going to be a lesbian for the wrong reason imo
OP is a piece of shit that ignores all the advice they didn't want to hear. Complete lack of empathy, unable to consider the feelings of anyone but themselves. That is, if OP even has any. Seriously, lesbians fucking despise people like you. You're setting out to use someone for your own satisfaction, someone part of an already marginalized group that gets accusations of just going through a phase. Just fuck off. How is it that you can't get with a fucking MAN? They're the most desperate people on earth and you can't get with ONE?
Gertrude is the least Chad-esque name I've ever heard in my life holy shit
Yeah, the lesbian equivalent of Chad would be Kat.
Fuck both of you it would be a butchy dyke name. Like Pat or Gertrude
I'm serious! It's a joke among lesbians, at least the ones in my area.
Are you in school or uni? Is there a LGBT club there? If not, try a local university or college.
Word of warning - don't announce you're looking for a sexual experience. That kind of bi-curious tourism is frowned upon. Say you are interested in their political activities.
>go be deceptive while intentionally doing what you know people hate
nice advice XDXDXDXD
Your ! makes me want to flirt with you.
Kat does make me think of a short haired lipstick lesbian thats got a nice body haha.
O////O g-gay
Funny enough, I know of a Kat who is exactly as you described.
I totally encourage you, OP... women are just better, it will be great to date people who treat you as something more than a vagina.
Well being gay is one thing at least you think of that before the fact we could live 10000 km apart
Yea tight jeans, white tank, kind of the dragonball z hair cut but its going down. Pixie cut its called thats right. : *
>I'm a fat ugly pig and can't get a guy to fuck me
Have you tried niggers or pakis?
I can get with men just fine. I can't find a man I love and care about who also loves and care about me. They don't take me seriously as a girlfriend.
No, I'm in my mid/late 20s in a city with gay bars but no exclusively lesbian bars.
I'm open to all races. I have generally found PoC to frequently be hung up on race though and use that as yet another excuse to not be serious about me.
Guys treat me like a stereotypical easy slut when I'm not. I've only fooled around and a few times (and still technically a virgin) and when I try to pursue something more, it's always "i just want to have fun for now," then they start dating someone else the following week.
It hurts and I'm tired of it. I think back on all the girls who have tried to get with me over the years and how much they seemed genuinely into me and how I turned them down because I was too much of a coward to break from being exclusively straight and wondered if i missed out on something.
I'm surprised this is controversial. I thought Jow Forums would get more riled up over me saying guys don't like inexperienced girls.
That's how i look.
Why is it lesbians get so angry at bisexual girls wanting to experiment, but you never hear of this sentiment with gay men? In fact from what I've heard they're always keen to help a bicurious guy experiment
I see why dykes like it
It's pretty discouraging, but maybe it's good my ego is being taken down a peg, so i don't walk in expecting to suddenly be a Chad amongst girls.
I think lesbians rely a lot on sexuality as part of their identity and become annoyed when girls try to experiment since it invalidates this.
Strange. I'm not trying to take anything away from them. That makes me kind of sad. I don't feel accepted by straight men, and i may not be accepted by gay women either.
Because you're not fucking gay.
>I don't feel accepted by straight men
It doesn't seem like you have a realistic expectation of relationships
I want to have sex in the context of a relationship (goes for both men and women). To me this isn't that much to ask, but every guy I've nearly slept with just wants "fun". And then I'm suddenly no longer "fun" when i don't want to sleep with them.
I want someone who is willing to spend some time with me, just hanging out and talking and bonding, before moving into physical intimacy.
What am i missing?
Because gay men, being men, have no standards whatsoever.
Why is it about standards? I'm a good looking, fit, nice person with a job, opinions, and interests looking for someone to love.
Why would it be slumming for a girl to be with me just because i didn't start fooling around with girls until i was older? Just because i have an aesthetic preference for men that I'm willing to chuck aside for the right person?
Would you get mad if someone held out for 9s and 10s and then said "maybe I'll give 7s and 8s a chance too" when that failed for years?
It's because society has this idea that male sexuality is dominant and female sexuality is recessive. This is why if a guy experiments with a guy many people will think he's gay (or at least bi), even if he concludes that he wants to be with women, whereas even if women date women they often get comments like "hasn't met the right man yet", "it's a phase" and so on.
Basically lesbian/bisexual women already struggle with the stereotype that their sexuality isn't as real or serious, and this makes some defensive towards bicurious girls because they're viewed as playing into the stereotype and giving fodder to people thinking woman on woman love is just a porn invention. And to a lesser extent because there is a stereotype in the queer community as well of bisexual girls wanting to fuck/date other girls but not considering anything but a man as marriage material, breaking hearts in the process.
One of my best friends is a lesbian who loves "corrupting" straight girls so it's definitely a thing in individual cases. Just less common I guess.
Interesting.
The anger would make more sense to me if i were looking to girls to make myself more attractive to men, but I'm not. I started this thread to find out how to find a girlfriend and how to approach the change.
Find a man with a personality you think corresponds to this then
I wouldn't get mad, but I'd stay the hell away from you because you consider girls a downgrade that you're only thinking about because you can't get dicked.
>tfw no lez friend to corrupt me
It's mostly frustration in response to very one-sided images like the stereotype of the college lesbian phase, indeed girls making out "for fun" at parties for the guys watching, and I have to say some people are pretty obnoxious about saying shit like "I want to kiss a girl but can you imagine carpet munching??" to girls who do sleep with/date girls. If people react exasperated it's not because of you or because of people who used to consider themselves straight wanting to explore further, but because they feel their sexuality is represented as a kink or a bucket list item rather than a legitimate sexual orientation, let alone sincere romantic love.
It no doubt also depends on the area but these sentiments are also expressed much more readily online than in real life. It's not that hard to tell whether or not someone is seriously attracted to you face to face. Just go on tinder or bumble or once or a different one and select for girls, throw in the description that you want to have an experience with a woman and anyone still pleasantly chatting with you afterwards is apparently a-okay with it.
When i find them, they're not interested in me. The ones who are interested in me only want sex.
A several years ago, I asked a guy friend why this keeps happening to me and he said guys don't take me seriously because I'm not girlfriend material. He said i came across as a lesbian because of my style / personality and that I'm the sort of girl every guy wants to fuck but no one wants to date. He said introducing me to friends and family as a girlfriend would be embarrassing.
That was years ago and it seems to be how it's playing out.
That's a good idea. I wasn't sure if i should be upfront with it or not. Thanks user.
ouch
Well i asked him to be honest.
We also ended up fooling around one night while drunk (though i stopped short of sex, as always, despite him trying) and don't talk any longer out of awkwardness.
I don't think they're a downgrade, they're just not my preference. I prefer dark hair too, but i wouldn't consider blondes a "downgrade"
You literally just said you'd be trying out "7s and 8s" because you couldn't get with your male 9s and 10s. No sane girl would want to be your consolation prize
Hello Layla
Yes, because women aren't as attractive to me as men are. That doesn't mean I can't potentially love a woman. How many people do you think would objectively rate their partners as a perfect 10?
I feel like this is a troll thread. How could someone genuinely be this obliviously callous, unempathetic and stupid?
Not a troll and I don't think I'm callous or stupid either. I guess I should have phrased my OP more delicately, but I did not think this would be controversial territory for Jow Forums.
I'm not looking to hurt anyone. I'm trying to open myself up to meeting and loving someone who fits outside of what I was originally looking for.
I know how you feel. I've also been rejected for not being seen as girlfriend material and men, even friends, walked away when they saw that they would have no chance for sex. I used to be bitter towards man, but life changes and nowadays my boyfriend of 6 years is also my best friend. I understand people can be assholes, regardless of whether they are men or women.
Thanks fellow non-gf material user. Yes, I've had male friends tell me they don't want to date me because it would ruin the friendship, then try to sleep with me, and then walk away from the friendship when I said no.
I'm not really bitter towards them. At this point it feels like just the natural order of things. I'm glad you found your guy, but I still want to use this frustration to explore this other part of my sexuality I never gave the time of day before.
"The world's not your own private fucking chemistry set."
lesbian in six feet under
try porn and other private outlets to figure out your sexuality. Casual one night stands are also acceptable, as everyone knows the risk in those.
Dating isn't cool you're probably going to hurt someone
>b-but people are b-born gay
check mate leddit
This is addressed elsewhere. OP is bisexual and just wasn't willing to date females until now.
>I know guys here think virginal girls are hot, but that's not been my irl experience.
No, it objectively is.
>popping a girl's cherry
>fucking/dating someone who hasn't ridden the cock carousel, ie not a sloot
>usually not high maintenance, and relationship material
Any guy who tells you otherwise is generally lying.
>He said i came across as a lesbian because of my style / personality
show us that jawline
There are no other choices but to go gay, user.
>usually not high maintenance
Maybe for the NEETs on Jow Forums, but in real life, guys pushing or past 30 expect you to have experience and are weirded out when you do not. At best, they have been neutral. At worst, they are completely turned off to the point of no longer pursuing me. I rarely tell guys anymore.
Not posting my picture. I've been told I look like a short haired Winona Ryder, but I'm not as delicate or pretty. I also get told I look like someone on the L Word but I never watched that show.
Women go gay for chad sometimes...
The thing is, you likely eventuall will find one, and then immediately drop your girlfriend for him. Which is why people have been telling you that the LGBT community hates people like you
A lot of people like you end up marrying a man anyway once they realise that heteronormativity is not a meme but something that really exists. Technically, you could be the exception, but I see no reason to believe that
How do you know? I don't want kids. I don't need a normal lifestyle. And I'm a very loyal person. I can't even have multiple crushes at the same time and i can't get over a crush until I'm rejected, they get a girlfriend, move away, etc.
I've also always been irritated by people jumping from one relationship to the next.
I think if i fell for someone, that would be it for me until it was no longer working. I cannot see myself leaving someone for another person.
>Maybe for the NEETs on Jow Forums, but in real life, guys pushing or past 30 expect you to have experience and are weirded out when you do not.
At best, they have been neutral. At worst, they are completely turned off to the point of no longer pursuing me.
Well no shit, you didn't mention age before.
Being a virgin that late is an immediate red flag for just about any guy. Guys will generally view it as a sign you're either immensely sheltered or have underlying problems that turn off literally every one else.
>I rarely tell guys anymore.
Lol, it'll be obvious.
I said earlier i was in my late 20s and have been holding out to have sex in a relationship.
Lots of guys want to fuck me, but no one I'm interested in wants to date me first. It's disheartening. I'm kind of tired of talking about my issues with guys. The thread wasn't meant for that.
I'm going to take a month or so, grow out a bad haircut, lose 5 lbs, and think about this some more after getting feedback in this thread. If i still want to explore girls, i will start doing so.
where do you live user? ill date u :)
>Lots of guys want to fuck me, but no one I'm interested in wants to date me first.
>but no one I'm interested in wants to date me first.
>no one I'm interested in
>How do you know?
I don't.. I guess I went a bit too hard, sorry. It's just that people often think they are the special one that is different and then end up acting like the rest. But the different ones do exist, and I have no way of knowing what you are like
I sincerely don't want to hurt anyone and I'm sorry i came across as callous or vapid in my OP. I'm going to spend some more time thinking to make sure this is what i really want before pulling the trigger and making a dating profile, but I'm pretty sure that it is.
I'm glad a lot of anons gave me some harsh input.