I was Jow Forums before I ever met Jow Forums. I turned up on the chans in 08 but long before that looking into 9/11 had led me down a long rabbit hole of alternate history.
I'm in the UK where this sort of opinion is dangerous.
Is it possible to go back to believing everything as it was before? Help me.
If you see it as truth, you keep seeing it. Period.
It will fade away in your subconsious if you stop thinking about it. But it will be there.
Just figure out a way to live with this.
Connor Sanchez
I mean you keep seeing it as truth.
Austin Reyes
Just stop watching the news, man. There's no way of knowing the truth about things unless you're really high up in the goverment, and even then there are things hidden to you. Because of this, trying to find out things like ''what's cooking up in Area 51'' is a complete waste of time and brain energy. You're only feeding your own anxiety.
Although I'm not Jow Forums myself I do have an inquisitive nature and I end up getting curious about stuff like the USSR's nuclear program, but I ultimately know that it's best to disconnect for a bit and experience reality.
What's reality for me? The people around me. Having people you enjoy being around with is crucial to not go insane; talk to them and enjoy their company and stray away from those who might harm you.
Just know that 90% of the stuff you see on the news is pointless fearmongering. You'll get to know the real important stuff anyways.
>Is it possible to go back to believing everything as it was before?
No, but you can evolve to the next level where you also accept that all the shit you made yourself believe as a 20 year old or whatever is not as true as you felt it was back then.
I went through the same thing but retarded with far-left politics rather than being a retarded alt-right frogposter. The only upside is that at least being a retard on the left as a teen and young adult meant I could get girls way easier.
but anyways I realized that the world is not one extreme or the other and no singular system or way of thinking is ideal or even universally true. It's not that I became more right wing or conservative as I got older is that I just stopped giving a shit about identity politics and politics in general. I don't care about what's happening a million miles away in another part of the planet or even in the next country or even within my own country because it doesn't affect me so I don't care and I've never been happier.
Did you really come to fucking Jow Forums to get Jow Forumsitical Jow Forumsice? Fuck, user. Just because the truth is ugly doesn't meant you can turn it into a lie. If you want, you can do like this fag: >I don't care about what's happening a million miles away in another part of the planet or even in the next country or even within my own country because it doesn't affect me so I don't care and I've never been happier. - If you're a proper person who cares more than his hedonistic desires, like some animal, then use your life to do something that will make the world better. Swim or sink; it's your choice.
>Just stop watching the news, man. I didn't get my opninions fro the news. >I went through the same thing but retarded with far-left politics rather than being a retarded alt-right frogposter. The only upside is that at least being a retard on the left as a teen and young adult meant I could get girls way easier. I've never worred for women. I was a lefty for most of my life as well, but even after the pendulum swung for me I've found women who respect my opinion. >I don't care about what's happening a million miles away in another part of the planet or even in the next country or even within my own country because it doesn't affect me so I don't care and I've never been happier. You're a faggot.
Jose Clark
>use your life to do something that will make the world better
I do, or at least make an effort to not make the world a worse place than it was before, and honestly all those tribal idiots screaming about how everyone is a snowflake or everyone else is a nazi they're the ones who are making the world a worse place.
Carson Butler
>I didn't get my opninions fro the news. News goes for any source you get information from.
Camden Kelly
So you're telling me to stop taking in any information before forming my views?
This sounds counter-productive.
Brody Kelly
Depends on what "making the world a better place" means to you. Feeding little niglets is making the world a WORSE place. Work to save the white race, our race. All the rest are not our problems. How you'll do that, is your problem. Life is a fight for survival, and we have to make sure WE are the fittest.
Nah, I meant not wasting brain energy into those matters since ultimately it's almost impossible to be certain you know the truth. Ever since I stopped caring I've been happier.
Camden Johnson
>Nah, I meant not wasting brain energy into those matters since ultimately it's almost impossible to be certain you know the truth. >Ever since I stopped caring I've been happier. Unfortunately, barring a serious brain injury or lobotomy, I can't just switch off my brain.
I don't want the answer to be "lol stop thinking". I want the answer to be convincing arguments that will sway me.
I guess I always knew this was doomed to failure. Truth will out.
Hunter Hernandez
Not even Jow Forums but as far as I can tell you don't I'm just lightly salted about Semites and even that's been impossible not to reinforce, and I can't really find refutation anywhere in as much as I can just find people who want me to turn the other way
Luis Hernandez
Even if you think that, I don't believe my advice is entirely pointless. Go as far as you want into whatever rabbit hole trying to find the truth, but know when to disconnect for a bit as to not lose touch with reality.
Good luck.
Jaxson Evans
>not lose touch with reality I thought you just told me to stop thinking? This is exactly what I mean. I can only ever find emotional appeals, not facts.
No you're a retard if you think that the wealthy whites give a shit about the whites at the bottom of society.
Look at the middle ages when Europe was as White as January snow. White people were slaves to other white people. Even as early as the industrial reovlution you had White children dying in factories and in chimneys while they worked for either next to no money or no money at all just to make other Whites even wealthier than they already were.
...You're... not telling me anything new, user. I, however, do care. And I'll try to do something about it.
Gabriel Rogers
well, have fun supporting your White Brothers and Sisters until you start splitting hairs and picking and choosing and drawing lines in the sand about who you do or don't support because you don't agree with their politics sometimes even if they're White.
Caleb Ross
I'm not dumb enough to join some Neo-Nazi group user. Besides, why should I, a South Euro, glorify Nazis? They destroyed my land. Nah, I have different plans.
Aiden Howard
I didn't say anything about nazis
Michael Ross
That's usually what "White Brothers & Sisters" means here. I ain't gonna lynch anyone, but I have my schemes...
Brayden Foster
>but I have my schemes >Nah, I have different plans >And I'll try to do something about it.
No I'm not going to ask you about it no one cares
Sebastian Reed
It's not like I was gonna share my gameplan on the net, wit you Joos... God's honest truth, I don't hate Jews. I hate the scheming Jews, but I'd allow proper Jews in my Ethnostate.
Henry James
OP here. You're an idiot for bringing up the JQ. You'll just get both of us banned.
You'll get told to keep it in Jow Forums and for good reason.
Benjamin Campbell
>It's not like I was gonna share my gameplan on the net
No you were just gonna casually drop it at the end of every sentence like some attention starved 17 year old girl who keeps bringing up her winter break in cancun lol
Luis Clark
Eh, whatever, if you wanna go back to being bluepilled, just convince yourself you cannot change anything, and should just lead a long and happy life. Leave the struggle to the rest of us, who care. ...Hmm, fair point. I honestly didn't intent that, but you've right in that regard.
Nathaniel Garcia
>Eh, whatever, if you wanna go back to being bluepilled, just convince yourself you cannot change anything, and should just lead a long and happy life. Leave the struggle to the rest of us, who care. Ok m8.
Funny how we still haven't seen any arguments to refute the OP.
Samuel Nelson
>arguments to refute
OP was asking for help, not looking to get into a Jow Forums autism war that devolve into posting reaction faces and calling people cucks and trumptards
Mason Butler
Seeing as I'm OP, I'm fully able to tell you you're wrong.
Strawmanning the situation does not change it. I didn't ask for a flamewar or an autismfest.
But I want someone to change my mind.
No one has even tried. The best I got was "lol just stop thinking" which is fucking hilarious.
>Truth will out. No it won't. It almost never does. Usually when you hear or read about certain event it's almost always just opinions. Even if you try look at something from different perspectives you end up siding with whatever opinion you like the most. It doesn't make it more true than the other side.
Jonathan Cooper
There's a band from England who have an album called "this is my truth, tell me yours".
I think that was where I was going with this thread.
Jonathan Johnson
>Is it possible to go back to believing everything as it was before? Help me.
>I want arguments to refute my statement and to change my mind
you sure don't sound like him
Christian Perry
So you got nothing. I get it.
Caleb Davis
Well, your original question was is it possible to get "unredpilled", I'd say no. By going to Jow Forums you realized that msm lies a lot and uses cheap propaganda. The closest thing to achieve what you are asking is to realize that the alternative media does exactly the same, they just cater to different audiences.
What is there to get and what are you expecting people to tell you exactly?
Aaron Ward
Learn what a paradigm is. The only thing that separates you from "blue pills" is who you trust as a source. And there's no better reason to trust this group of far off strangers you know about on the internet from that one.
Do you trust medical science and the scientific method/peer review process? Vaccines are safe.
Do you trust so called whistleblowers and outlying scientists who produce an opposing study and say the rest of the body is wrong? Vaccines are not safe.
That's it. Is the latter guy a crazy person with extreme bias towards his own work or a snake oil salesmen or looking for his fame? Or the one who knows?
Shift who you trust as a credible source and who you see as the liar, the intellect from the retard, and your view will change. Oh and admit you don't know fuck all. That's important too. All humans are bias you included. You can't trust your own perception.
Justin Howard
>supporting groups >not thinking this is a Marxist mindframe Welcome
Landon Baker
Alrighty, just finished the thread, here goes.
Gain some higher perspective. Who's game do you want to play? Jow Forums's? "Their"'s Yours? Your group's?
Your grandchildren's? Humanity's?
History's?
Thing is, no matter what you choose, you're still stuck in language. You might as well follow along with all Jow Forumsacks who went flooding /x/. Perhaps chaos magick and self hypbosis is your true salvation. Or maybe it's simply that you focus too much on group identity, and have convinced yourself of some sort of "belonging". Information shouldn't flow in just one direction, OP. As soon as you try to contribute to new ideas, it'll be easier to form opinions more coherent to your time and place in reality. Might I suggest Zen Buddhism, if Discordianism seem too weird. Nothing is true - Everything is permitted. Do whatever WORKS for you. And to bring it back to perspective; What purpose is to be found in knowing that ethnicities are different? You're still going to stop being alive one day, so what can you use in the meanwhile to achieve the life you think will serve a more interesting life?
Just stop bothering with all that which won't get you somewhere close to home.
William Powell
Read Lenin. Every opinion you hold can also be found on the red left.
Jonathan Jones
I recommend that episode of Star Trek where data takes in too much information too quickly and starts coming up with conspiracy theories.
Alexander Clark
This is why people hate pol fags, you're so obtuse and can't fathom changing your mindset
Charles Reyes
You just do you booboo
Xavier Peterson
Straight up, what you're lacking in life is the ability to thread everything together coherently. The conspiracies on pol rely on a network of millions of people who are all Jewish. Who all happen to be bent on killing off the white race.
What threads everything together is actually socialism. Something is deeply wrong with the world. But rhethe answers are not coming from the right. They're fighting ghosts.
Go left my friend. You'll find it's more balanced here.
Camden Nguyen
Start browsing lefty pol on 8ch and believe the same things (horshoe theory, poltards are just a decent reading list from communism)
Stalin did nothing wrong The rivers will run red with the bourgeoisie/the Clinton's/Soros
Marx has been telling us to not take any shit from the big old money families. He was exiled from Germany but did he give a shit? Nope he kept writing because he knew one day we could use his words to learn to destroy the illusion of democracy under liberalism. Fuck liberalism the dictatorship of the proletariat is the only way we can advance as one race together. That's why Russia got to space ten years before the elites faked a moon landing.l, the space race was supposed to be the first man in space not to the moon but the elites control the media that told us all that america and by extension the old money powers, won the space race.
The real red pill is communism, lads.
Julian Parker
Is this thread the brainlet convention?
Thomas Peterson
This.
Communism is atrocious. It led to the death and suffering of tens of millions more than Nazi Germany. The reasonable way out is to acknowledge the oscillation between diametrically opposite polarities. Gain a metamodernism, with one foothold in each direction, carefully assessing issues case by case, not by orienting the political landscape from a fixed ideological vantage point.
Oscillation is the natural order of the world. Elevate your view, stand above, look down. Meta systems are to be preferred, unless you wish to find yourself trapped by ideology. Things can be true in more ways than one.
Landon Peterson
Hey you know what you are lacking? The willing to accept things with empathy
For example poor black people in america, they behave differently than poor white people. You should know it isn't because they have low IQ or are just bred to think like assholes. It is because racism is a thing that sets you back. Their families don't have normal stories to tell. Their education suffered. Their culture was tainted by white people doing terrible things to them. So, of course it isn't the same. Racism is bad. Stereotypes are bad. You not being a victim of it is just plainly the color of your skin.
Poor people can be fixed. Poor people tend to be uneducated low self esteem people. How do you expect them to turn their lives over if they can only care about surviving? If they have kids is worse. It sends them back. That's why you have abortions.
Listen, I'm not a SJW. I just have empathy. Murderers for example. Are sick in the head. Understand this. There isn't good and bad people only. Life is gray. There are only reasons why people do what they do or why people are how they are.
You not having enough empathy makes you less smart to be able to solve these problems in a bigger scale.
I think immigration shouldn't happen. I think the solution is for war on the middle east to stop. But that can't happen because we take resources from them. Are you going to say england hasn't been drinking away africa and it's resources since the beggining of time? As well as france? What did you expect bro? For africa and the middle east to be succefull places? No fucking way you can't seriously believe that.
But nationalism is for the stupid. You must know that really well. It is meant to separate and to protect the goods of the few who reign.
Not saying you have to change. But the world isn't black and white like you believe it is.
Michael Perez
>I'm in the UK where this sort of opinion is dangerous. No its not lad. Why are Jow Forumstards brainwashed to believe their opinions are ostracised
Nicholas Richardson
>being brainwashed by an anonymous imagebtoard
Pathetic.
Blake Kelly
>You're a faggot Not him, but I'd rather be a happy faggot than well informed and suicidal
Elijah Ramirez
Jow Forums and Jow Forums largely overlap. Basement-dwelling virgin NEETs who understand the outside world through memes of their echo chamber.
Oliver Young
Hardly. Both echochambers yes but there isn't an enforced political opinion on Jow Forums. Robots lash out at everything and blame everything for their misfortune since its easier for them to cope as victims rather than go on a path of self improvement.
You are obsessed and enclosed in this community that will only keep validating you. Get out of there and meet people, talk to people, have your ideologies challenged by all sorts of persons, and let them mature from different life experiences.