Sorry, I don't like you like that, but we can still be friends :)

You aren't confessing properly if you're not getting a solid answer.

What the fuck man, they say this all of the time!
Even as a dumb virgin myself, I have to tell you that you are quite delusional

I'm not some dumb incel, if a girl isn't attracted to you she just isn't. In my experience they tend to avoid actually saying it though.
>ask girl on a date
Or
>say I like them and that I'd like to get to know them better
What are you saying to these women?

Seriously, I WANT to be rejected but I think my harmless personality makes me seem vulnerable so I tend to get led on more and outright rejected less? I don't know

Do you chucklefucks only care about a woman as a person if you're getting to fuck her? Pathetic.

No I have plenty of female friends and no, I'd like to be a normal relationship.

Let me break it down.

1. Women are people, just like you and I. It always amazes me that a board that struggles with social awkwardness, shyness and an overall inability to communicate properly is so incredibly scathing of women who aren't completely comfortable with straight up rejecting people. Have you ever contemplated the possibility that telling someone who has feelings for you that you don't reciprocate isn't a comfortable conversation for a woman to have?

2. Unless you have explicitly expressed romantic interest in a woman it is top-tier childish to expect her to explicitly reject you. The amount of dudes on here who beat around the bush and refuse to be open and honest with women about their intentions that also moan about how women are never open and honest with them is staggering.

3. Don't swim in the waters of ambiguity if ambiguity upsets you. So many of you kiddies love to use non-verbal communication and hints to get what you want but the second the non-verbal communication doesn't go your way you want to explode about how women are such terrible communicators. Most of the adult world understands what rejection and a lack of romantic interest look like. To some extent its your autistic fault that it takes a woman straight up verbally slam-dunking you for you to understand that she isn't interested.

4. Anticipate that not every woman has the courage to risk upsetting you. I knew a girl once who had her car set on fire by a guy she rejected that frequented the coffee house she worked at. I hear horror stories all the time about men who completely freak out and viciously turn on women in response to rejection; call her a whore, spread rumors about her, freak the fuck out and stalk their social media etc., This isn't always the case but its a reality. This is where your social skills come in, user. This isn't at all an issue for people capable of interpreting basic human emotions and body language. Social skills. Learn them.

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That's not "leading on" dude, that's the friendzone and you should be happy you are not in it.

Stop it with the stupid "women are people" meme. Everyone knows women are people. But denying the fact that women and men behave differently in the society we all live in is beyond retarded.

yeah that's not clear enough, PEOPLE, not just women, want clear questions with shit like this so they can't misinterpret you.

>we should go out on a date
even friends do that, asking out on a date doesn't mean you want her to be your gf.

>I like you and want to know you better
oh you mean like being friends? again, you're not doing a good job.

if you wanna go out with a girl and want a definitive answer you have to ask it clearly

>please go out with me
>you wanna be my girlfriend?

etc etc

Dude, saying it's a date means it's a date. She would have to be the stupidest person alive to not know it's supposed to be a date if the guy says "date".
You are making it more complicated than it is. It's not that it isn't clear enough, it's the fact that the girl is uninterested and is just pretending to not know the guy wants to date her, because that way it's easier to deal with rejecting him.
>please go out with me
>please
Begging a girl to date you is not a good idea. Are you writing bad advice on purpose or did I just leap into an alternative opposite reality?

What about girls who get mad at you for breaking off the friendship after rejection.

Like they make me feel like I'm doing something wrong.

They should know that a friendship with someone you are attracted to simply can not work.

not asking you to especifically say this, just the idea of it.
and yes, just because you think that's how things should be (refering to the whole "dating" thing you just said)doesn't mean they'll be that way.

we're talking about how you get an EXPLICIT rejection, that's by taking explicit action yoursel.f

They can't. Well, otherwise they'll simply won't be able to get any profit from you.

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but thats my image

>behave differently
In fucking high school
After that it's pretty much adults being adults, worrying about paying their bills and staying debt-free and ideally cash-solvent
It's not exciting, but neither is starving. And that's kind of the world of adults, forgetting all the drama so you remain sane and functional enough to do a job, make money and maintain some, even minor, upward trajectory.
I mean, you're gonna need money eventually-- bodies deterioriate.

The problem with this whole "they behave differently" is that it's almost always people ignoring the fact that there are guys and girls who act like girls and guys, respectively, so the whole thing just becomes "people do" in the end anyway. And again after a certain point, people really don't behave differently based on gender. It'll just be based on their experiences-- which could differ based on gender, but that's a separate issue from "gender = different behavior."

I've said this every single time a platonic guy friend of mine has tried to take things farther than I am comfortable with.

What has your experience been?

2 and 4 are contradictory