Why did Trump pull out of Syria

He did it to bolster his credibility with the anti-jew, nationalist crowd. He was always controlled opposition and still is.

yeah I am not buying the faux liberal outrage.
But still, who in Trump's inner circle would have supported this? Bolton, Pompeo?

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I don't mean the nukes specifically, i know they keep getting flak for that, i am talking about why they are portrayed as the boogeyman for everything but the nukes, for instance like in OP's article

Because he doesn’t give a shit about regimen change. Only goal was to blow the shit out of ISIS and let the region pick up its own pieces. The neocons/globalist were all trying to shit this thing into overthrowing Asad.

washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/as-trump-talks-of-leaving-syria-his-top-commander-in-the-middle-east-emphasizes-the-need-to-stay/2018/04/03/2ccdcff8-3753-11e8-8fd2-49fe3c675a89_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fe15c7d29685

cnn.com/2018/03/29/politics/trump-withdraw-syria-pentagon/index.html

Well, there's the whole "I bring no artillery with me" one, but that's about the only thing I heard about when I was in

Because Ann Coulter said he'll never amount to anything if he ignores the promises to his base and will just be remembered as a sociopathic fucking failure for all eternity .. that freaked him out (among other reasons of course)

>Reul Marc Gerecht
Former CUA nigger and crypto Jew
>(((Mark Dubowitz)))
Jew

I need a link for that statement lad, the poor grammer makes it highly questionable

For the first time trump grew a fucking pair and instead of listening to swamp rats he is listening to his supporters

I dunno. I'm assuming with the stormy daniels thing going on his pullout game is pretty good.

>2018
>liberals have all become neo-con warhawks
>republicans are ending wars and bringing the troops how
The timeline shift is fucking with my head

The US has had tension with Iran since the revolution in 1979 when Iran became openly Anti-American and Islamist. Also as I mentioned before, shilling kikes are a huge factor.

>Why did Trump pull out of Syria
He didn't want Syria to get pregnant

It's probably just a lie, or they're only pulling out a percentage

no one. Reading some of the reports from reuters, Trump apparently made the decision over a phone-call with Turkey's Erdogan, where he apparently said "fine. You can have it" and than told Bolton to "figure it out" and hung up. Not kidding, look it up.

Trump suffered multiple defeats between Mueller probe, losing the House and losing wall funding/shutdown standoff. He's looking for a way to energize his base.

He realized he can't just play along with the deep state anymore.

fair enough

Touché, that is one. But most people glorify him because of memes or because he was one of the few 4 Stars with a CAR. Those are low bars.

whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-trump-syria/

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I just noticed that
>Institute for Defence of Democracies
aka. Israel defence shills. kek

thanks, this pretty much clears it up. Trump wanted to pull out long ago, finally said fuck it

It certainly seems like a line in the sand.

Mattis wants to protect the kurds for some reason.Other then that, there is really no point in staying. Same with Afghanistan, Mattis wants to help girls go to school and learn to read and shit, but other then that, there is really no point in staying.

The advice I gave to the president was that he should just make sure to keep the oil flowing from the middle east and otherwise don't give a fuck.
This can be done with bombs and tomahawks, tell every dictator and warlord that they better keep that fucking oil flowing or they get the shit bombed out of them.

I'm 100% certain Trump already has his ideas and plans mapped out for policy enactions all the way until 2024.

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>not thinking trump is going to make It Happen
People chant the mans name in foreign countries

Also weird how this story perfectly conicides with the end of media coverage on the Kashoggi killing.
>its almost like the MSM wants you to forget that the middle eastern Islamists are not our friends...

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Agreed, I think some of these establishment Military guys enjoy these global war games a little too much

I think its just Truml derangement syndrome.
If tomorrow Trump announced that the US was actually sending 1000 more troops to Syria and Afghanistan, they would all shit over that too

He averted war with Russia which would have probably happened with an different election result.
Saw the danger china posed , that they had been quietly building their stregnth for the last couple of decades with no distrctions of meaningless wars like the US. This was all done thanks to a massively beneficial trade deal given to them by Bill Clinton.and immediately went to work imposing tariffs. If the US and Russia had gone to war would China taken advantage of the 20 years of preparation ? Maybe Trump and Putin were aware that the plan was for them to destroy each other. The main stream press was hell bent on causing division, they wanted a war.
Tarriffs imposed , China aware that US and Russia knew of plan and have to deal with borh of them. Sorted.
Troops out of middle East , job complete.
Next start arresting the traitors

My speculations.

Isis propped up by previous administrations as a scapegoat for endless wars against Russia (in extension nationalism vs globalism), petro dollar, and greater Israel.

Trump able to pull out because isis funding has been cut: McBrain, Saudi princes tortured, CIA programs to arm ”rebels” ended. They’re nothing without their backers.

Erdogan has probably given him alot of reassurance that he wont fuck up too hard with the kurds.

Probably wants a strengthened military back home while mops out the sick and perverted saturn cult next year. I hope he fucking burns them.

>There is no way Trump just wakes up one day and decides "fuck everyone, I'm pulling out of Syria".
Nah, I'm pretty sure he woke up one day and said fuck everyone I'm gonna be president.

The same media that used to praise Obongo for Iran deal ... .

It's fucking hilarious how bullshit they've become.
Nobody believes anything they say anymore.

trump said the iraq war was dumb, i guess he wasn't dumb enough to do what the neocons told him to do and invade syria
will have to watch carefully to see if money is being paid to PMCs like Blackwater/The Institute to wage privatized wars on foreign soil and stealing even more tax monies for their "service", though. jews are sneaky like that.

First of all Mattis and the other generals were suggested to Trump by the GOP establishment. He obviously had no idea about any of these people or their track records. The GOP didnt get /theirguy/ elected so the next best thing was to plant a bunch of neocon stooges in Trumps cabinet.

An open-ended war is disastrous for everyone involved EXCEPT the companies selling arms to the U.S. military.

Any normal person with no skin in the military-industrial complex wants out of these sand wars.

erdogan wants to do a peace deal, it's his personal pet project, he only went back on it in 2015 because it was unpopular (after terror attacks + syria falling apart) and the leader of the kurdish party didn't promise to back him up in elections, he wanted to be a little king.

lad, he had been taking about running for President since the 1990's

>Isis propped up by previous administrations as a scapegoat for endless wars against Russia (in extension nationalism vs globalism), petro dollar, and greater Israel.
While Israel did help create ISIS for a greater Israel I think Obama did it because he genuinely wanted democracy in Syria. I think the CIA did it because they are retards, an organisation just waiting to die, like the KGB in its final days.
Then you have all the weapons ISIS got from the Iraqi military, which in turn came from Bush/Obama and a failed idea to establish democracy in Iraq which lead to a weak state unable to defend itself.
The thing about dictators and warlords is that most of them likes to have nice things, those nice things can be bombed.
A man like Osama Bin Laden is different in that regard so it's not an absolute.

>Any normal person with no skin in the military-industrial complex wants out of these sand wars.
You can sell weapons to dictators and warlords...

Has a General EVER recommended pulling troops out of ANY warzone?

No, war is literally their job.

TRUMP is doing whats best for AMERICA.

EVERYONE ELSE CAN GET FUCKED

britboy gets it

Solid post. However i think a majority of the U.S. military is relieved about Trumps decision. Its a waste of money and a waste of lives. Perpetual war is a waste of both.

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Iran was always a problem since 1980. However US foreign policy since 1991 has done nothing other than wreck a successful containment policy and allow them to reach a level of influence not seen since the revolution.

They get to retire and instantly become executives for Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and make millions lobbying Congress to buy their overpriced weapons platforms. Pulling the troops out and turning the army into border Guards would ruin their payday.

Normies on fb seem really pissed about the kurds.. i mean really pissed, saying theyre likely to get genocided and such. I couldnt care less about kurds, but where can I read some good counter arguments?

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>but where can I read some good counter arguments?
The kurds have always been genocided, it's their destiny. They do it to themselves. It won't be the first or the last time they get their ass kicked. In the long run, nothing will have changed for the kurds. They have been around since antiquity. Normies don't feel deeply about anything, if they did they wouldn't be normies.

You've bitten off more than you can chew
and you have brought death to yourself.
O son of a Kurd, raised in the tents of the Kurds,
who gave you permission to put a crown on your head?

>and the leader of the kurdish party didn't promise to back him up in elections, he wanted to be a little king.

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He served his purpose and he did a good job. Now we need a Defense Secretary with the goals of the President in mind

Kurds ethnically cleans the regions they take and populate it with their own while driving all other ethnicity and religions out. No surprise that exposes them to genocide when countries come taking it back

Ask them why Obama gave weapons and money and cia support and even changed law to allow US citizens donations to free Syrian army rebel’s? (Pic related) and what happened to them immediately after that? Where did their weapons and money go? How did isis appear nearly simultaneously with endless resources and completely take over region? Why did he abandon bush plan of giving military equipment to police and choose instead to leave it all in Iraq for isis to seize uncontested?
Why did we support Arab spring? How many died in Libya and Syria alone? Why did he legalize domestic propaganda the very next year after being banned since the 1940s?
Ask them why zbigniew who under carter pretty much invented modern taliban and alqaeda
youtu.be/A9RCFZnWGE0
came back under Obama and isis magically appeared
youtu.be/ASlETEx0T-I
Ask them why we should care about thousands when he helped kill probably millions through starvation in Syria and conflicts created throughout Midwest needlessly that still fester and May NEVER end
Finally, ask them to kill themself.

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Thank you Trump. I voted for Hillary in 16 but will vote for Trump in 2020 specifically because of this.

>pull 2000 troops out of Syria and 13,000 out of Afghanistan.
>save $10billion in 3 months

The Jews just paid for the wall

If you know, mind letting the rest of the class in on the secret? So far, I've seen no compelling reasons to give a fuck about Syria, the kurds, or anything else in that whole region.

I wonder (((who))) gives out these scripts worldwide?

>majority of the U.S. military is relieved about Trumps decision.
don't forget the 2018 military pay raise

I'd wait to see who the Dems have to offer. If Tulsi makes the candidacy, I think she's worth electing. She'd make a fine first female President

>I think Obama did it because he genuinely wanted democracy in Syria

None of this has anything to do with democracy. The US wasn’t even a democracy until Trump came along. Saunders was kicked to the curb and the polls were rigged in favour of Hillary. It would be more accurate to say Obama hates democracy

I have never heard any reason, much less a compelling reason, that is not: fighting a frontline war for Israel; or a proxy war against Russia.

We shouldnt even consider either.

Good point, good post

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>Gerect
>Dubowitz
Alright, schlomo.

>MUH IRAN!
Iran is fighting to keep Syria a secular Ba'athist state, which is the best alternative for the people of Syria.
The other outcome is we stay in Syria, and overthrow their government, and let it plunge into another failed state full of Israeli backed (((jihadis))) like fucking Libya.

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Mattis wants to protect the Kurds cause the USA made a deal with them. If we pull out that is the USA breaking the deal. It basically tells the world that when we make a deal you can't depend on us the honor it.

It sends a very bad message DESU.

>The Kurds
Who cares? Most of them are literal communists like the fucking YPG.

We deliberately fucked our NATO ally by arming Indonesia against East Timor, we betrayed the Vietnamese by pulling out, we killed several of "our guys" in Central and South America... Plus, we've betrayed the kurds twice since the seventies. I think they'll manage.
Hell, the US defaulted on its gold debts in the seventies, and we're all still here. Nation states do not have honor, and no one is expecting them to.

Well i don't give a fuck about the kurds. But if people get the impression that we are a nation that makes deal that are only depend on 4 year election cycles then who the hell will ever feel comfortable making a deal with us?

Personally I agree with the pull outs but it should have been done differently. People like when things are planned out before hand. Trump would have been better off announcing the pull outs a year ago while being on the phone with the US Syrian contacts for a year before that.

Just calling for a pull out now with no warning wasn't the smart way to do it. I think everyone can agree on that.

I disagree.

>Worried about other countries
>Calling for a pullout now with no warning wasn't the smart way to do it.
You're right. He should've pulled us out of there (and Afghanistan) 2 years ago. He's a bit late if you ask me.
I've been to Afghanistan twice (also Iraq), and the wars are fucking USELESS. Their people are incompetent, and it's time our guys stopped dying for a bunch of third world peasants who will never appreciate it, or even understand why we were even there to begin with.

>There is no way Trump just wakes up one day and decides "fuck everyone, Im pulling out of Syria".

Why not? He makes decisions on a whim sometimes. But I don't believe he made this decision on a whim. I think he did it mainly to be cooperative with Turkish, Syrian and Russian operations in the area, that our presence necessarily interferes with.

bbc.com/news/in-pictures-35967389

>Plus, we've betrayed the kurds twice since the seventies. I think they'll manage.
This!
It was inevitable. What is the U.S going to do, establish a nation for the kurds? Fight Syria, Iran, Israel, Turkey and Iraq so the kurds can get their own nation? A nation they couldn't even establish themselves.
The kurds will be fine and if the the U.S and the kurds should have the same interests later, the kurds will cooperate with the U.S once again.

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Tulsi is a left wing maniac. She's cute and was in the army, that's it.

Russians demanded it. That piss video must be quite something.

>portugese flag
wtf?

After they got $40B in US and $5B in Canada government gibs

lol

At this point I'm convinced that Trump could personally invent a magic medicine that cures literally any disease and can be easily made at home using shit you can buy at the grocery store, and the media coverage of it would be "Cheeto Hitler destroys pharmaceutical industry."

We don't need ME oil anymore
Fuck pissrael
Bump

Based and redpilled

>a nuclear Iran would be a HUGE threat to Israel
Wouldn't this be a good thing?

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>Why did Trump pull out of Syria
It's not hard to figure out. Israel's victims ran off to Syria to build up forces for a counterattack. Good goy Obongo declared war on them, trying to court votes from the neocons (zionists). Didn't cost him much, only a few billion dollars and the lives of some conservative voters.

Then it was Trump's turn. He gave them a bunch of money for their votes, like every other president. But they didn't give him any votes. In fact, they were actively working against him. They probably thought Trump might rock the boat too much, and they have no problem abstaining or even becoming Democrats for a few years. So trump did what any good businessman would do to an uncooperative business partner: He applied leverage.

The kikes thought they had all the power, since American politicians always treated them like kings. But right now they've got the US fighting like 5 proxy wars for them. And now Trump's pulling out. That is a lot of pissed of muslims, and poor little Israel is surrounded by them. The zionists thought they had leverage over us? Trump is literally threatening them with genocide. They better make some deals fast, or they won't even have a country to betray us for.

That's the Jewish media. Its propaganda. No longer any pretense. They are desperate continue endless # mass immigration. Virtually all non white. Foreign people, races.
Rest is just conversation.

>republicans are ending wars and bringing the troops how
There was a time when Republicans were anti-war. Back when the paleocons were in charge, before the Cold War.

Democrats got the US into wars in the 20th Century:
Wilson: WWI
FDR: WWII
Truman: Korea
JFK: Vietnam
LBJ: Vietnam+

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It wasn't that long ago Democrats wanted the troops to come home and even protested for it.

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Because he witnessed the mission creep that Bolton and Mattis were pushing. He realized that Mattis and Bolton were pushing him towards a conflict with Turkey that could have far reaching ramifications.

You left off Nixon a Republican faggot

they do. look at the iraq war commitment speeches by tony blare and john howard. The leaders of two different countries giving the exact same speech word for word in committing to entering a war.

He probably agreed to give people like Mattis some time to bring the fiasco to a decent conclusion, and now that we've just been sitting around like jackasses there not doing anything but upholding a futile status quo, and Turkey is starting to get riled up, it's time to pull out. No more waiting for them to fix this mess, Trump decided it's not worth it, especially with how entangled this is becoming among many different nations including NATO ally Turkey. Assad is staying, that's clear, so why stick around with no clear objective other than spending a bunch of money with our thumbs up our asses?

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