Taxation is theft

I agree with you. The only solution the left has to any problems is just tax it.

Taxation IS theft

The salvation army does not put a gun to your head

obviously, the guy taxing you is the guy more powerful than you, ask yourself who is he ?

Taxation is theft, but theft is needed. It is intimation, but we need to pay for basic shit and no one will volunteer.
>muh libertaritard ideas
Batshit and will never work

>intimation

who's running it ?

taxation is legal extortion

I'm a communist, you're a capitalist, but who is running it ?

>theft
What are you talking about? I involuntarily donate 60% of my income so big gubmit can import terrorists and central amexicans to my neighborhood. Never been happier.

>batshit and will never work
>gofundme for wall has millions pledged
what now user?

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and the death penalty is legal murder whats new faggot

its the price we pay for civilisation
checked, muh roadz

that's totally what I meant
you fucking communist, I'm the capitalist, so who runs shit ?

totally NOT what I meant

who are you talking to, schizo

>its the price we pay for civilization
bringing democracy to libya, yey

are you ok user?

> it's the price we pay for civilization
sorry guys, we all need to work harder for our pensions because we need some extra tanks

> it's the price we pay for civilization
I'm sorry, IMF needs to be paid guys, you can't just believe stuff is for free

> it's the price we pay for civilization
no it's not you fucking moron

sure

No, it isn't. If I implied in any way that it was, it was a mistake.

but it's not the price we pay for civilization

I... how do I even respond to that?

that would require a lot of other parameters to be in line with that goal, and they are not, even if that were the object

its a very simple statement, pay for it without having a gun to your head

Render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar’s

>the only possible taxation allowable would be for charitable purposes
Fuck the roads and sewers. Indians shit in the streets and Africans drink water that they get trucked in because they don't have running water, and they're fine. Also, fuck roadways, street lights, snow removal and all the shit that truly benefits the people.
Yeah, the only reasonable reason for taxes is charity.

caeser can suck my dick

tu quoque, fili mi ?

I have every year I've been a working adult. How do you pay taxes? Your faggot meme flag obscures your origin, so I don't know if you're posting from some tyrannical hellhole. I doubt it, though. Probably a fucking American millennial trying to be edgy.

any normal person would pay essential taxes voluntarily

but imagine a system where you can choose what your tax goes to, and how much you pay

he was basically murdered by his own family

he's promoting some ideology, like we all are in a sense

I know, but UBI kind of blows all that away

in any case, it's always good to have a chat with local people, especially if you see them engaged in some kind of construction project.

the capitalists, the communists, the unions, the entrepeneurs, the government, the plebs, the banks, the exploited, the degenerates, the not degenerates

so fuck off the UBI, it's not needed

>I love dirt roads!

- Libertarian retards

not an argument

living in a society that has taxes is voluntary.

>i love tyranny

-statists

it's not needed, just an easy set of guidelines to run stuff

>paying with a gun to your head is voluntary

dont like it then leave idiot.
or even better leave and start your own society instead of bitching, but then again you libertarians always did avoid personal responsibility.

you leave faggot america was founded on freedom and no income tax

and then they realized the error of their ways and chose the enlightened path of taxes.
if you dont like leave and start your own shitty country.
but never once has a libertarian put their money where their mouth is and prove everyone wrong, because they cant they run from accountability.

> you don't like the rules I decide, you leave

>me so strong, you weakling, you don't like, you can get out
to where ?

universal basic income is a set of guidelines?

huh?

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*inhales deeply*

The State is nothing more than a private corporation constructed to benefit those who are in control of it, the legislators who function as its chairmen and shareholders.

The fact that the officers of the corporation put themselves up for election in districts they define and gerrymander does not bestow their private enterprise with the right to extort and enslave the entirety of the population, no more than Walmart's board of directors allowing itself to be elected in a similar manner would bestow such 'rights' upon the corporation.

There is no functional, meaningful difference between the corporation known as the 'State' and any other organization of individuals. There is thus no logical sustenance to the claim that they are somehow entitled to levy 'taxes' and force everyone to live by their 'regulations', while other organizations aren't.

Taxation is theft, regulations are slavery. All bureaucrats, including the traitorous tangerine faggot in the White House, need to be shot post haste. The American State became an illegal and unconstitutional entity in its entirety with the passage of the 13th Amendment.

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this is too confusing, maybe I should drink less

They can't.

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you fucking idiot statism happened after the founders died

mises doesn't agree, and you don't really want
to argue with them about economics

>There is no functional, meaningful difference between the corporation known as the 'State' and any other organization of individuals.
wrong, the state is takes up the role of ethic enforcement in society hence the monopoly on the use of violence to enforce ethics.
not to also mention the abilities of the state in their disproportionate command over society, wealth over society, and sheer collection of members in societies natural oligarchy.
the state is the rule enforcement through violence, threat of violence and another arm of the oligarchy that stems from man's natural tendency towards oligarchy.

you fool, the founding fathers left to start their own land if you admire them so much do the same and leave to found your own otherwise quit complaining like a woman.

>ethics are enforced by the most morally bankrupt
moral relativists GTFO

Taxation is not theft
it's extortion

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simply printing money seems a non sequitur.
they are probably right

theft at gunpoint

let's not print money then
society would break up in the doers and the 'parasites'
sort of like a kaste system

ethics are enforced by the person with the biggest stick.
hence the people with command and control over society make the rules, sometimes the rules society wants, sometimes the rules they want. have you never read hope and tragedy? rise and fall of elites? do you really not know the role of government? how the distribution of weapons effects a nation?

t. moral relativist who sucks the dick of the guy with the biggest stick

It is theft. Great job. Figured that one out in record time. You must be very smart.
But seriously faggot, I'll steal from anyone and everyone to make 1488 happen. I disagree with how the stolen money is currently being spent, but I don't disagree with it being stolen. Any sacrifice to secure our existence.
It goes in all fields because your being an edgy faggot on purpose and I don't really appreciate that.

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enjoy no sewers,no roads,no maintenance,high prices everywhere.
you will live in a cuckshed and corporation will thread on you

it would become very difficult to get out of your kaste, because of all kinds of reasons

>if you dont like leave

When we finally vote to secede in Texas, you disgusting Y*nkee bastards will bitch and moan about 'muh Union'. 'If you don't like it leave it' is your motto - until we actually do. We're no less entitled to our rights because we live in proximity to you statist apes, the obligation does not fall upon us to leave but upon you to stop in your reckless, savage, and amoral aggression.

Why can't you take personal responsibility for your own life and security and leave others alone? You're literally a manchild who cannot live without an authoritarian State directing and organizing every aspect of your existence.

'Society' is a mental construct of no significance ; The State does not exist to enforce ethics, but exists as an AFFRONT to ethics, by depriving man of the ability to act in his rational self-interest and better the ultimate end and summum bonum of his own welfare.

I fear you are also misinterpreting my stance that there is no difference between the State and any other organization to be a comment upon material differences, when in actuality it is directed towards their core nature as associations of individuals - e.g. 'There is nothing special about the State that should grant it the right of aggression when other corporations, who allow their leadership to be elected in a similar manner, should be denied it'.

I'm asking you to explain what's so special about the organization known as the State that makes it completely okay for it to throw people in jail for owning automatic weapons, operating their business without a license, or growing marijuana in their backyard when you would recoil if Wal-Mart did the same even if it elected its Board by similar means.

It's an illogical premise.

which would be what we already have ?

I'd love it.

He's doing it badly

I live in Chicago. It's built on corruption.

lol did you pay your taxes bitchboy?
if you worked for a company that had a policy you disagreed with you are free to leave.
If that company had the majority of people choose that new policy you would still be allowed to leave, taxes are the same, the complacency of society is their decision to go along with taxes. if you dont like you are free to leave nobody is keeping you here. nobody is forcing you livie in a society where the majority of people agree with taxes. dont put the founding fathers on a pedestal for their ability to found a new society based on their morals when they disagreed with taxes if your not going to do the same. its just useless groveling at that point.

BASED FUCK SPICS

The killdozer is so fucking unsettling to me. The video footage of it going on a rampage makes it feel like a living machine of flesh, like there's something alive trapped in there(which is literally the case but still). It's a "I have no mouth but I must scream" kind of feel

>6 words
>shit meme picture
>meme flag
>third of the thread's posts are OP

Nigger if you're this desperate for attention go throw yourself off a bridge. You'll be famous for a day, two if you land on passing car. Advertising/Begging like a 50 year old prostitute. Shameless, desperate and completely unworthy of even a single (You), despite the fact that a literal legion of faggots desperate for human interaction, plus a handful of bots, will do whatever they can to keep this thread from dying.

Low quality cumwhoring. Saged.

You're looking for a response that just isn't reasonable, or clear. You want me to say "HURR DURR ok, I'll voluntarily give any amount I feel to be ok voluntarily just because I feel they'll spend it well, but I've never said that. Either speak clearly and get your point across, or fuck off. I don't verbally spar with retards who try to walk people into what they feel is a clever trap or something.

literally retards
this

>smash your head into my retarded wall

sure i've got nothing going on. (obviously posting on Jow Forums)

theft is detrimental to civilization
taxes are needed for civilization

that said killdozer did nothing wrong.

In case you're wondering, you aren't smart enough for what you're trying to do here.

>bitchboy
not an argument try again

>>third of the thread's posts are OP

refreshing change from 1 post by this id threads

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unsettling? it is the spirit of Liberty

Lmao not even close to the same. Hurr durr don't like the way your ancestor's nation has been corrupted by elite cabals? Don't bother trying to get it back on track, just leave. Jesus Christ you boot licking faggot

>(You), c. 250 : Human sacrifice is needed for civilization
>(You), c. 1018 : Serfdom is needed for civilization
>(You), c. 1743 : Slavery is needed for civilization
>(You), c. 1888 : Religion is needed for civilization
>(You), c. 2018 : Taxation is needed for civilization

Maybe it's yet another scam pushed upon us by the elites, and you've been brainwashed? Nope. No way. This have never happened before in human history. Better keep repeating the line, because the more I say it, the more true it becomes. Taxation is the price we pay for civilization. Taxation is the price we pay for civilization. Taxation is the price we pay for civilization.

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>leave to found your own otherwise quit complaining like a woman.
You know it's illegal to do that or live off the grid.
Child.

Working for capitalists is theft of time.

>nobody is forcing you livie in a society where the majority of people agree with taxes
It's illegal to live off the grid and it's illegal to start a new country.
Good job, child.