/vaccinegate/

Earlier this month the Italian government fired all 30 members of their vaccine policy advisory board, saying they need a fresh look at the vaccine issue.
newsweek.com/anti-vaccine-italian-government-sacks-entire-health-expert-board-1242759

On December 13, Corvelva, a scientific research group, announced it had received €10,000 (US$11,350) from the Italian National Order of Biologists with plans to use the money to test the contents of every vaccine currently on the market. The result of their first test was released on December 16.
corvelva.it/speciali-corvelva/analisi/vaccingate-initial-results-on-infanrix-hexa-chemical-composition.html

The first vaccine they thoroughly tested was Infanrix Hexa
>a six-in-one vaccine manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) that is supposed to contain the following antigens: tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis toxoids; inactivated poliomyelitis viral strains 1-2-3; and hepatitis B surface antigen
>Corvelva found NONE of these antigens in the vaccine
>found traces of 65 chemical cross-contaminants from other manufacturing lines
>chemical toxins
>unrecognizable macromolecules
>various free bacterial peptides that are potential allergens and are capable of inducing autoimmune reactions

To re-iterate, they found NONE of the antigens the vaccine was supposed to contain. ZERO. That means this particular vaccine is completely useless in the best case scenario, worst case it's population control/human experimentation.

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Other urls found in this thread:

cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf
blogs.timesofisrael.com/religious-schools-are-not-immune-the-startling-low-rate-of-vaccine-policies-in-jewish-schools/
tabletmag.com/scroll/188686/low-vaccination-rates-at-jewish-schools-in-california
cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/vaccines-list.html
youtu.be/LOCgUqctqpI
youtu.be/RJh3TiCFJH4
go.thetruthaboutvaccines.com
youtu.be/T1CULm76N5Q
youtu.be/td8-p7s90ww
player.vimeo.com/video/192351803
twitter.com/SvD/status/1078155107886342144
learntherisk.org/diseases/
skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccine-pseudoscience-corvelva-anti-vaccine-researchers/
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Bump.

Holy fucking shit wtf are these just in Italy?

No, they tested vaccines made by the huge companies that do business all over the world.

Man, my son was just born last week and I'm really feeling fucked up about vaccines. Heard too many horror stories, and I especially don't want him to have autism or aspergers.

I've heard many conflicting things about them, and it seems like its vax, or don't vax at all.

Now, I was administered who knows how many vaccines while growing up, so it seems like there are some that aren't completely fucked, but how do I know which ones are safe or not, or do I choose to not vax him at all? Zero vaccines seems risky, but fuck, I don't want to fuck my kid up because the (((Medical Community))) suggests something.

My wife is on the fence regarding them, saying she knows there are some unnecessary and dangerous ones, but that there are a few that she'll want him to have, although I don't think she even knows which ones those will be.

Any guidance bros? I know the AAP and CDC are comped. Is there anywhere to start reading about this, hopefully in a fact-based, non-fear-mongering format? Most sources I've found aren't the "most credible" in her eyes.


Tl;dr I don't want to fuck up my newborn son and need some help regarding vaccines

Anyone taking (((they're))) drugs needs their head examined for worms and their larvae...
>Fuck Kikes.

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Dont get any. They will try to give a lot all in one shot never do this.
Gardasill paralyses the list goes on

The known side effects seem to far outweigh whatever the fucking vac's are sposed to prevent... Right?

If you're in a state like cali with mandatory vaccinations, just pay more to have more visits and space them out, esp the mmr.

My son had 6 at a time and it fucked him up for 3 weeks. He was starting to talk then stopped after that.

Luckily he's better now but I'm glad I didn't have him get the mmr at the same time.

Blindness, mute paralyzed...autistic... seems likes getting the flu or some fucking chicken pox is far preferable...

No

How is this not Worldwide Headline News? Doesn’t this change everything?

And what is the kid going to do for school or employment?

How the fuck did we as humans survive untold eons without them I wonder...

Probably trying to conceal it until they can put some kind of spin on it. It means they’re getting sued this time

fucking DUH

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Maybe he’ll be home schooled or own a business seeing as how he won’t be an autistic defective

Breast feed your child, make sure the mother is eating real fucking food. Not some vegan onions GMO shit diet.

Don't vaccinate. The diseases are a fucking joke. Measles, chicken pox, mumps, etc. All this shit has such a low mortality rate. The best way to combat them is proper hygiene practices and real food.

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no

this is what they are basing some of their expectations on:
cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

>don't get vaccine
>gets polio from some immigrant
Get the major ones user, just make sure they for his age range and space them out if you're 'worried'

The moment he was born, they wanted to give him 2 shots. One was a hep b vaccine which we held off on to research ourselves, and agreed to the "Vitamin K" shot because we're fuckasses and thought one was "just vitamins"

Surer than shit, he became jaundiced after sending us home and we had to rush back in for UV phototherapy (Twas a Merry fucking Christmas for us). It had been our second day home and he became inconsolable, followed by extreme listlessness and was very hard to wake up and keep awake. If the jaundice went untreated it could have caused severe brain damage. Only after we were already back in there, did one of her anti-vax friends tell her about how the Vitamin K shot is linked to high bilirubin levels and jaundice.

Fuck guys, I just want my son to be alright. No one deserves this bullshit, especially a newborn baby.

Yes goyim, don't vaccinate your kids!

ask to pay for two of each vaccine so you can submit them for independent testing.

that way you can see for yourself the risks to the child.

The unironic nerve of you kikes part fucking one

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Part two and fuck you because the shit these third worlders faggots bring vaccines will not save you from

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WTF

The wealthiest Jewish schools in america have similar vaccination rates to sub-saharan africa. Extraordinary claims (such as cure of lifetime illness) require extraordinary evidence (which is very suspect)

blogs.timesofisrael.com/religious-schools-are-not-immune-the-startling-low-rate-of-vaccine-policies-in-jewish-schools/

tabletmag.com/scroll/188686/low-vaccination-rates-at-jewish-schools-in-california

this.

his brain will work,who cares about the local zombies

gave them basically NO MONEY WHATSOEVER to test vaccines at a scientifically useful scale.

come on dude, where are you getting your retarded information.

i mean seriously 10,000 euros to test EVERY vaccine on the market? thats garbage, that much money would barely cover the cost of writing up a few fake reports

a VACCINE just FLEW into MY ASS

>Fuck guys, I just want my son to be alright. No one deserves this bullshit, especially a newborn baby.
Do you think (((they))) care about goyim cattle?

You're a good father user. I hope to find a husband like you one day. I was vaxed and am not a doctor so sadly I can't help, but I do think some vax are good, but then I hear shit liek your story. Whose really to say. Doctors say the kid will die at 3 from measles, other people say the vax can kill or impair. Same thing with the food pyramid these fucks are making it up as they go. Trust no one, but you and your own.

he was probably recovering and didnt feel too good for that period of tiime, better that than getting ANY of those diseases

Yep and again ((anyone)) who cries out in pain about “muh herd immunity” as they strike you with a needle is 99% of the time in favor of bringing in migrants who carry diseases we either don’t have vaccines for or diseases we’ve never even seen and have no idea how to treat. They want us dead.

This is Jew logic as it’s finest. The amount they were paid has all the bearing on the conclusions of the tests holy shit kys

I think at least some vaccines work, but the reality is that we really can't trust the State to not be up to something nefarious here.

Dont vaccinate your son, user.

Currently, there’s a scandal on my country where a French companies tested some anti-dengue drug called Dengvaxia. This resulted on many innocent childrens dying thruout the year.

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you are deep in the matrix if you think any vaccine is good.

The old orthodoxy is probably still correct: no vaccines at all when he is very young. His own immune system must develop first, otherwise what exactly are the shots supposed to do? Read Milton Glaser's Missing Microbes, he's a totally mainstream doctor at CDC.

There are "real vaccines," but big pharma got aggressively greedy recently. Medicine dictated no shots for babies for generations, very recently this was overturned and replaced with as many shots as possible, all at the same time, oh and we're working on a way to vaccinate a fetus in the womb.

Not vaccinating is fine if you believe he'll never travel to another country or have contact with a foreigner. My parents were hippies and didn't vaccinate me and instead did it the "natural way" (directly introducing me to things like chicken pox to build antibodies, I have scars). When I wanted to travel I had to get 8 injections for various things that are common where I was going.

By having 10 kids and 7 of them die to said diseases.

I was getting a vaccine years ago and they asked if I wanted a kosher one
What the fug

"jew logic"
there are dozens and dozens of vaccines on the market, you fucking idiot.

do you have ANY idea whatsoever about how much a lab costs to run?
the number of tests they would need to run in order to get conclusive results and the over head costs?
or that they replaced 30 staff, so that money dividedes up as 333 euros per staff member?

you fucking idiot, the amount of money they were given would be just enough to cover the costs of a website and small marketing campaign


cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/vaccines-list.html

Space out the vaccines. My son's doctor actually recommended it and only the major ones and we even skipped a couple

>fake reports

that phrase in going on my bingo board. pls tell me more about corruption in the scientific community

Jesus Christ

and yet tuberculosis and polio all but dissapeared

ITS AS IF BY MAGIC OR SOMETHING RIGHT user?

honestly, you guys are fucking idiots

i'll concede that there have been negligent companies just trying to make some jew bucks, but vaccines are not the complete evil you all think they are.

also, isnt it weird how EVERY vaccine in the world somehow causes autism?

Hey user I think you should follow this guy's advice: Just use your common sense, don't let them bully you into getting anything more than the bare minimum.

>directly introducing me to things like chicken pox
Is this not standard procedure anymore?

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Ok you earned your (you)

what's shocking about that? do more research, see how big of a collection you can amass. preferably propaganda from both sides so you can cross-reference.

if you are serious, look at the peer review process and how it has been trolled and filled with bogus reports for years now.

positive confirmation is a huge problem (where negative results are not appreciated, so results are massaged)

you think that 10000 euros is enough money to reliably test even 1 of the dozens if not hundreds of vaccines on the market? than you are an idiot

nope, we bizzaro world now

you mean preservatives are toxic to neurons? colour me FUCKING SHOCKED

It's actually considered child abuse in some states. It was normal everywhere until the 2000s. Hell, I remember children's cartoons that had episodes about it in the 90s.

These are going in my ‘Before they were Shoah’d: A Jew Hollywood Story’ compilation

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this opinion i beleive is the closest to reality on this thread, greed polluting something that is a good thing

I believe their test is accurate. I believe this in spite of your counter-claims.

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Directly introducing meaning having parties where a bunch of parents would get their kids together and let them all get sick. "Timmy got chickenpox, party is this weekend".

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>you mean preservatives are toxic to neurons? colour me FUCKING SHOCKED

what the fuck is this argument supposed to represent in relation to my comment?

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>worst case it's population control/human experimentation.
duh

youtu.be/LOCgUqctqpI
Big Pharma exposed - Vaccines are creating the super bug

youtu.be/LOCgUqctqpI
Del Bigtrees YT Channel - he's a journalist that helped make vaxxed

youtu.be/RJh3TiCFJH4
Highly recommend watching

go.thetruthaboutvaccines.com
7 docu series from doctors / pediatricians / scientists

youtu.be/T1CULm76N5Q
Polio / Aluminum - the truth behind these chemicals

youtu.be/td8-p7s90ww
Immunity scandal - Chicken Pox
Date rate of diseases before vaccines
Death of NY Senator - flu shot / msm shilled hard
HPV vaccine and how useless it is

player.vimeo.com/video/192351803
Vaxxed - The Movie

Who is the manufacturer? Those are the people you should be looking at as being corrupt. Those are the heads that will roll.

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what? anyone who doesnt just unquestionably beleive ANY anti establishment bullshit is a jew now?

man, what an intellectual you are, you mustve gotten every single jew vaccine on the planet because you seem to be a total fucking autist

vaccines are evil.

you are supporting weakness in humanity. you are sick in the head.

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TB was never vaccinated against on any real scale in the US and polio was already on the way out when the vaccination campaign started. The most important tool against infectious disease in all of human history has been effective sanitation and maintaining high standards of personal hygiene. If we wanted to be entirely pragmatic you'd probably see better results from making everyone wear surgical masks like they do in Asian and enforcing compulsory sick time at workplaces and schools than trying to vaccinate against every single possible infection or disease.

twitter.com/SvD/status/1078155107886342144
Hmmmmm…
"new cases of narcolepsy still occurring that can be linked to a mass vaccination campaign 10 years ago"

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and finally

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Correct, the vaccines never helped shit. They spread and created more epidemics than the actual disease.

learntherisk.org/diseases/

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Fucking GlaxoSmithKline. They should be executed or at the very least banished.

Any thoughts on the unidentifiable macromolecule? There was a thread like two weeks ago talking about some old mk ultra type gov documents referencing a drug nicknamed “fametrain” And by the way it was phrased it sounded like whatever was active in it lived in the body for about a year, but I do mean lived as in a living organism. I’m gonna find it

I had this happen to me. Jaundice after a hep b vaccine, doc said it was normal, just told my parents to get me into sunlight a few hours each day. Then came a fever and an ear infection. Always suspected that this was related. Lost most of my hearing in left ear and never got it back.

This highlights an important point, not all vaccines are created equal. It could be that there are certain chinkshit cheapo manufacturers that are responsible for the lion's share of illnesses, autism or deaths.

I think there's a middle ground here, it's just that legitimate studies into this type of thing are so hard to come by. I wonder why that is?

You’re pro-vaccine and you’re insulting be by implying I’ve taken all the vaccines you think I should take. That’s why I know you’re Jewish. Clever but not even nearly enough

all this shows is a quality control issue, that has obviously made it through drug trials

it shows nothing about methodology, effects or amounts detected.

im still highly suspicious, theres no way they tested all the major market vaccines in a scientfically relevant way for that much money. now when multiple tests requiring highly paid, highly skilled indiciduals working in a highly expensive cleanroom lab environment would be the minimum necessary.

there are multiple companies producing the modifications of the same vaccines as well.
this whole test reeks of being a sham

im supporting the eradication of diseases that wreck peoples lives, rather than conspiratorial bullshit

Guess its time to make memes and dig huh? Fucking hell. I knew shit was fishy once they started pushing for a bunch of vaccines for stuff that wasn't lethal and tried to make it mandatory.

So where do I start digging?

One family's kids would get smallpox and suddenly everyone's children are spending time at that house. Induce coughing and contact play/sport if its not spreading fast enough to the older children. Reminder to dunk your 1 - 2 year old in a pond to prevent asthma and other immune disorders, they need early exposure to weak parasites.

"Chickenpox fuckkk

>I think there's a middle ground here, it's just that legitimate studies into this type of thing are so hard to come by. I wonder why that is?

i agree with you on this, seems that the only people interested in these studies have a vested interest in the results being one way or the other

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capped and archived, good anti-vax stuff.

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>unrecognizable macromolecules
Good study.

>one way or another

One side uses legal enforcement to make you get the vaccines and that’s the same side that you can’t sue if they fuck up and it’s also the same side that just got BTFO in court by RFK Jr. because they didn’t keep any records on adverse effects or deaths caused by their rapidly growing list of required vaccines for the past 30 fucking years which they were legally obligated to do as part of being freed from liability in the 80s you pathetic fucking retard. Get real bitch

They need shekels!

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wtf I love vaccines now

>everyone who disagrees with me must be jewish

not even close you mongoloid, look at my flag, im scottish, there are 6448 odd jews in my country, theres a 0.12% chance of me being a jew
there are 6.5m of them in the USA, theres a 2% chance of you being a jew

that means there is a nearly 17 times higher chance of YOU being a jew, you fucking kike

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From the website:
>We have found instead a real polymer, insoluble and indigestible, that we supposed to be the set of antigens chemically bound together (has to be defined if this is present as an aggregate of the individual antigens or a single macromolecule), on which we can find in literature partial information regarding the single antigens.
>This macromolecule could not be recognized in any way by the protein databases, and in fact it turned out to be a solid compound of an unknown chemical structure.

IDK if it's legit but that's what it said.

He's raising good points you dumb faggot and all you're doing is hurting your own position by responding to him with personal attacks and memes. Lab work is not so cheap that you can effectively run the tests needed to check the contents of "every vaccine currently on the market" for fucking $11k.

At this point they don’t need conclusive results, they just need a handful of preliminary findings to justify further investigation

this is the second google response for corvelva
skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccine-pseudoscience-corvelva-anti-vaccine-researchers/

your ''docs'' get premiums for vaxing all of their patients , look it up

30 yo adult here.
Got hired for a job at a hospital providing patient care. Found out after the interview that they are a mandatory flu vaccine site. I have to get the flu shot if I am to work there. (I could cite philisophical reasons for not wanting the shot, but my reasoning would have to be approved by a panel and if it were approved, I'd have to wear a mask over 3/4 of my face from Oct-March every single year...not ideal when working in patient care, and likely not to get me the job).
I planned on getting the flu shot tomorrow.
Does Jow Forums get their flu shot? I've had 2 in the past, one in 2014, one last December in 2017. I had no reaction.
But I've just recently started reading about reasoning behind the anti-vaxx movement, and I'm surprised by how fucked up vaccines really are.
This is a good job. I want it. But I'm not sure about the flu shot.

tl;dr
I got a good job but it requires me to get a flu shot. Tomorrow. Should I? What's been Jow Forums's experience
>I don't want Guillain-Barré syndrome

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flu shot is literally the fucking stupidest shot. One of the few that still has mercury in it. That and it's success rate is so low, its more likely to make you sick and give you the flu than do anything.

only retards get the flu shot. I'd rather get shot in the face.

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The only thing you can surely say after this is that GlaxoSmithKline is going to lose their permit to produce any vaccines. I have not found any data regarding the vaccines who are dominating the western market.