Iberians: What went wrong?

quickest answer is Napole*n

what about poortugal?
what about greece? what went wrong over your country?

>Spaniards.That's what went wrong.
Iberians. That's what went wrong.

Spain was doing well under Franco. After he died they started to decline fast.

Losing most of their empire before establishing themselves as industrial powers.

Also, this

deep breadth helen you are baited and trolled

No one should be replying to your retarded meme flag and your retarded post. Go read a book and stop cocking up this board, better yet go drown in the ocean

Poortuguese are just black spaniards with a funny accent

feudal mindset focused in raw materials exports, instead of jumping into the industrial and manufacture econnomies like the anglos and the frogs did

why so mad, pablo?

why did spain lack a non-medieval mindset?

i don't know, i personally believe there is not a "superior" European sub-race, i would say there are periods where one is above the other like a wheel, and then this one is on top, and then this one,etc

Pr*d empires such as Bong and Holland began engaging in usury which artificially booster their economies

because it was during the medieval times...

anglos were the one exception who started industrialized era, not the rule and iberians being backwards...

Iberians
Iberians
Iberians...

WE ARE HISPANIAN!

Wtf is an iberian?

Spain and Portugal were on of the first major European powers to start colonizing and exploring the New World. That was when living people still remember the black plague. After the Renaissance and Enlightenment, other European powers started jumping in on the colonization wagon, but by this time Spain had already spread itself too thin to maintain all the land grabs. That and the gold that made them wealthy began to dry up. They had no way to maintain itself as a great colonial power as both a ruler of its subjects and a formidable opponent of its Euro rivals.

basically this at least for west europeans, almost every white strand within west europe dominated the continent or at least regions outside of it's territory for some time, iberians giving space to anglos dominance was just one of the shifts that is probably ending right now

germans now dominate most of it via economics instead of invasion/war and probably in the next few decades the next ones who will gain dominance will be the one or the group fist to go right-wing nationalist, who knows, maybe a austrian-italian-hungarian aliance...

2.000 years ago anglos were only as advanced as american natives and romans had a gigantic empire with big cities even by today standards and better architecture and art than today, things can change drastically with time within europe

I'm Lusitan, hernandez.

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Coming from a country where it's most profitable state (Bavaria) is Catholic.

Everything. Cuba collapsed when the shitskins and niggers out numbered Iberians and other Europid Cubans.

The Spanish may have technically “owned” all of that territory but it was 95% empty wilderness at the time

kys, protestant scum

So why do Mexicans here call themselves Hispanic?
It's the same thing no?

Should've genocides the natives like the angl*s did.

Hispanic is a language group and it’s used for political purposes in the us to build a voting block like blacks

>implying something went wrong

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jaja que agradable momento de mierda.

suicide yourself nigger faggot

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t. mutt

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finally a burger who gets it.

In our case we lost our young king and were invaded by Spain and then the big earthquake of 1755 just destroyed the capital.

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So its ok to genocide people in their own homeland?
If they didnt want mutts they should of stayed in europe

We began with the right foot:
-Killed the muslims
-Expelled the jews
-Enslaved the niggas

Lusitania is part of HISPANIA.

No way Spanish empire reached Alaska.

Also, nothing against portuguese, but it's a shame that Britain and France arrived to the colonization party too late to take us.
We could be like Quebec or fucking USA.

Sorry Pedro, we are either Lusitani or Celt-Iberian. We were in the Iberian Peninsula roughly 500 years before you guys.

There is nothing "Hispanic" about us.

>Iberians: What went wrong?
They (((expelled cenrtain peoples))) instead of accept being golems.
Then WERE subverted by (((masonic lodges))) and (((liberal monarchism))), to the point of abandon christianity and become republics.
BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT, RIGHT BENJAMIN?

"Hispania"

Root word.... SPAIN

There's nothing Spanish about Portuguese.

The whole term is a meme.

>all these assblasted p*pists replying
Based and redpilled

You enslaved niggers because of jews, jews encouraged imperialism and slavery because its another form of globalism

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Abarbanel#Race_and_slavery
>was a Portuguese Jewish statesman (with Dom / Don honorific title)
>Abravenel concluded that the servitude of animalistic black Africans should be perpetual
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people#Portuguese_Sephardi_Jews
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Brazil#First_Jewish_arrivals
>In Brazil many of the colonists were also originally Sephardi Jews, who, converted, were known as New Christians.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Mexico#Colonial_period
>Portuguese merchants more easily entered Spanish America, and a complex community of crypto-Jews connected to transatlantic and transpacific trade networks emerged.
>Evidence from individual cases prosecuted by the Mexican Inquisition indicates that most crypto-Jews in Mexico were born or Portugal themselves or their children, primarily from the Portuguese capital of Lisbon or Castelo Branco.
>Their wealth was based on asientos (licenses) for the black slave trade in Mexico, since Portugal controlled the African coast where they were sourced.

From the 1700s onwards, the creoles and and foreigners (the few that passed) born in the Americas got no real chance of success in the Spanish Imperial system.
Spaniards born in the peninsula had few chances even.

Here, I'm going to speak in terms of you and us, you put your seed, you send your blood to tame the wilderness, to create civilization.
But then you deny them any chance of being held as equals to the Peninsulares.
We had brillant minds, hungry of knowledge and philosophy, but Spain gave us nothing. France and Britain took that place, here comes Libertarian and Revolutionary ideas.
We had strong brave men ready to die for the King. But Spain never really trained them properly or built the so much needed defenses against the Naval powers like Britain and France, and pirates.
The you accussed us, specially people from the poorest Viceroyalties like River Plate, Chile, of being "Afrancesados" Traitors! British spies. Yes there were some, but how to blame them when the only food fro thought was coming from those places, the only freedom to trade and to stop being so poor and undeveloped regions was to trade with the bloody Anglos?

You disregarded us, you didn't train us properly, makes us thing that we were scum, never so loved like Silver plated Peru and Mexico. Or commerce rich Cuba.
But we were rightful owners of that pride later.

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Shut up mongrel you jewish meat bag puppet.
You are talking with directly descendant of the gallaecciam Viriato.
Im pure blooded and hear me portugal will be spanish some day. Because it isour rightfull claim.
Portugal is a jewish invention like Cataluña.

they had had rights, but didnt colonized (same reason mexicans lost tejas and california territories)
We are a tropical country, if France had colonized us we would be Congo, instead Quebec.
If England we would be now Kenia.
WHY? In tropical lands only PLANTATIONS are PROFITABLE. And you know what kind of labour force would be used in that...SLAVES!

300 years was a decent ride
lol, nigger

>Im pure blooded and hear me portugal will be spanish some day.

We kicked your arse in 1385 and again in 1640

>Portugal is a jewish invention like Cataluña.

WRONG. Go learn some history , Pedro. We were Portugal several centuries before there was a Spain

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the government freed the slaves too early

SPAIN made a massive mistake - plunder without investment. It took huge amounts of gold from the Americas and wallowed in wealth for a short period, but did not actually make an effort to educate its people in the fast-changing times, in the industrial "evolution" which began 3 centuries earlier in England.
Example: instead of investing in ship-building technology and education in Spain, Spaniards simply used their gold to get Italians to make their ships. When bad times came, Spain had nothing to fall back on, as its potential human capital had not been exploited. Even the Armada was delayed, as it required more cannon balls, but no one in Spain knew how to cast them.
ALSO - Spain shared with many countries a disdain for money-making and commerce (merchants were the lowest caste in India, for instance), unlike the British and Dutch, whose leaders and nobles encouraged trade and economic ventures and activity among themselves and lower classes who could benefit everyone through their entrepreneurship.

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>Calls me Jewish

That's odd. I don't have one bit of "Jewish" in me.

Portugal is better than you.

>"Portugal is a jewish invention like Cataluña"

As long as we're just making shit up, can I say that Spaniards all have AIDS and come from Kenya?

If anglos colonized you.... U mongrel scum didnt or will exist in the world at all.
Pray to God mother fucker and fear and fight sin.
You have niggers because of jews, in our empire there wasnt slavery. Becase we were the sword and hammer of God.

Fuck u separatist scum and pirate trash enjoy the kaly yuga ride!

Hispania precedes Spain by many centuries...
Fucking burguer education.

Also Iberia is just the greek name, Hispania is the roman denomination.

What about Rodhesia right before the brits pussed out? Or Australia and South Africa?
The later two aren't exactly tropical countries, but they didn't had the same climate of northern hemisphere countries.
I guess the best example is the Boers in SA, they went to actually live in a new place, not to gain profite from it.

> "WE WUZ TRUE ROMANZ AND SHEEIT"

The TRIBES that were the Lusitani and CELT-IBERIAN people....were established in the region BEFORE the Spanish.

I love portugal its not a tool like it is for you and your people.
Im galician and nothern Portugal will always be Spain to me.

You fucking Idiots think that Portuguese people are part of YOUR Empire. We're not locked in here with YOU, you're locked in here with US.

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Spain chimped out because of the gold and silver, killed all competent goblinos, enslaved the rest and brought over niggers along with other diseases. tl;dr Spain ruined a fucking continent with some minor help from Portugal, though the latter kind of gets a pass since they only really wiped out some nog-tier tribes.

I make sure to donate to any movements that bring in more refugees to Spain and Portugal. This is revenge for the spics that are invading our country. The only good Iberian is a dead one.

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Say that without crying.
Kek

Iberians are glorified North Africans. You’re even less genetically white than Sicilians.

Racemixing

Hopefully when the US collapses, we will start killing hispanics and nigs in the street.

They brought 10x more slaves than the 13 colonies + they actually interbred instead of segregated

There is, on average, less than 10% North African DNA in Spaniards - and this has been theorized as originating from their ancient ancestors who migrated up from Africa through Gibraltar into Spain, not from the Moors, who ruled as a ruling elite minority, as the Saxons did in England over the Celts.

>If anglos colonized you....
the anglo cocksucker is this (ID: YBx1hC+X)user, not me.
I do KNOW about (((WHO))) provided the slaves, protip: LEHMAN is still one of the richest families in this country until today, and guess what? Yes they join parties with SOROS.
Some us MACACOS here are into high levels of autism, and know our conditions.
>The later two aren't exactly tropical countries
SUBtropical is what they are, and they are not exemples of white civilization. White control and directives, yes. But not of sucessful white societies.

>Iberians are glorified North Africans

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By contrast, African Americans have, on average, 20% European DNA, would you designate them as "glorified whites?"

>Abravanel
There is a guy here in Brazil with this same surname. He is jewish, owner of a TV channel that only serves to make people dumber.

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I would be quite surprised if you're actually able to move your fat asses out of a Wallmart ride cart in first place.

>be Spanish man
>live in world without plastic and xenoestrogens
>your testosterone is so high that 21st century doctors would probably diagnose you with a disorder and put you on blockers
>spend 6 weeks sailing the Atlantic, backbreaking labour every day just to ensure you don’t die a horrific death
>sleep in a hammock surrounded by other men, no free time or privacy to fap
>no porn, no pictures, you can barely even remember what a female looks like
>finally arrive in the new world, a strange, alien land
>half your friends died of disease and cholera before you arrived
>after hacking through miles and miles of dense jungle with venemous animals and vicious predators you reach a clearing
>you see this

What the fuck would you have done?

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Without spanish influence in the Americas. They would’ve been just like Canada and the US. Why are you willing to defend people that actively spoke out against Anglos dominating the world, Papa?

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honestly? it was the immigration plans. there was only 20,000 spaniards, and mostly only men in spanish north america, while only in new egland there were 1.5 million, with women men and children

>a famous guy
Fixed.

nigger you are a class a kike, and exactly why americans have no idea what Iberians are. We were the first ones to expel the Jew for good and Spanish missionaries and inquisitors converted more kikes from blasphemy and apostasy in their devotion to Satan to in the least becoming Christians where their heirs would soon forget they were ever jews. If only the protestant retards werent swept up by kike mercantilism. That is the only reason the Anglo and Dutch spheres ever took off. Usury is still a crime in teh eyes of God btw. Never forget the spanish remained so bulwark against economic slavery that the kikes used markets and fellow Christians to destroy her...

Nothing.

Our poverty protect us from immigration, our crime protect us from weak western-minded degenerates.

Says the country who did nothing about a man butchering innocent cats. Spics are vermin who need to be shot, enslaved and have their organs sold to meat shops.

this. the colonizers in north america were families looking for a new place to settle, the colonizers in south america were men looking for adventure and to get rich

>Bringing white women.

One of the Portuguese kings did just that.
They would send the white women to other parts of the portuguese colonial Empire.

Usuallay to India, and parts of South East Asia.
The women were called Orphans of the king.
They were believed to have been the daughters of soldiers who died in warfare.

But the Dutch would raid the ships and steal the war booty.

Iberians are the devils children, they seek to undermine Anglo/Germanic domination. They created these bastard children so that way the United States would become less white. Vermin such as you need to be culled for the greater good. I’d unironically stab a spanish newborn to death if I had the chance.

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>overwhelmingly bringing enslaved people to your brand new land

They destroyed the New World.

I can’t wait until we start seeing millions of dead negro and spic corpses on the street. They’re subhumans who are asking to be killed. Make sure to donate to any pro-refugee group in spanish speaking countries. I’ve done my part and have given over $25,000 in the past three months.

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Like all european empires they did not have enough territory at home to truly project power across the globe. Their power was bound to crumble the moment their mainland was invaded... which happened all the time because they never took out their rivals on the continent.

>what happened
Revenge of the Basques. Bolivar was a basque.

Being this stupid. There was a Portuguese and Spanish empires before Anglo/Germanic rise.

The anglos did too though.

Race-mixing destroyed 20 countries and 13 dependencies. Reminder that if it weren’t for the spanish untermensch thinking with his dick. We could’ve extended both the white population and Europe’s cultural influence. If I had a time machine, I would go back and kill off any inquisitors of spanish or portuguese origin.

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Spain could have conquered France after San Quintin but the nobles wanted to be safe so the king made the spanish army retreat , Spain actually tried to conquer Europe ,we also wanted to conquer England but we were never even close we conquered parts of other european countries tho

Without the Spaniards, the anglos would've discovered the new world instead and we wouldn’t have millions of mixed breed mongrels who hate white people. You’re worse than Jews, at least Jews didn’t create this many mongrels. The Iberians deserve to have millions of nonwhites flooding their nations. Make sure to donate to all spanish/portuguese refugee charities.

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