What is up with bosnia? It had to be originally serb or croatian. So which one is it?
The modern bosniaks of today only stem their identity from being muslim. But what were they before? Christian bogumules? But what ethnicity? This is a big deal in the balkans, and frankly, bosnia shouldn't even exist, like most inorganic states in the balkans, would a split solution between croats and serbs work?
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Didn't they all lose their identities when they got turked?
Majority of the West Balkans were Muslim Bosniaks. They were all genocided and relocated to Turkey. Turkey has more Bosniaks than Bosnia now.
Todays Serbs are just slavified Balkanites.
genetically l have seen no evidence for serbs getting turks, macedonians, bulgarians, and greeks probably have some turkic dna from turkish communities in their country. Croats are obviously not mixed, but maybe bosniaks are due to being muslim.
the question is what were they before.
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They were Balkanites. Very simple.
All this talk about they wuz Illyrians and shieet, they are proto-Slavic is bullshit, even the claim that they are turkish rapebabies is bullshit too.
Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks all look the same. Go to Austria and you notice this (there a tons of them here). The only thing they separate is religion and misguided nationalism.
but you do understand that they come from different tribes right? they aren't the same
They lived in the same area and they look very similar. Also they have the same mentality. It's fair to say, they are the same people.
Western history is full of myths masquerading as facts. And it influenced that type of nationalism that completely ruined the Balkans now. Claiming that everything Christian is Indo-Germanic and everything Muslim is Mongol led to that type of war-torn shithole that the Balkan is today.
bosnian nobles were descendants of serbian and croatian royalty and were mostly catholic.
also on the map you posted you can see towns of bobovac and sutiska
these 2 were fortified towns where bosnian kings lived and until 1990s population of this towns was 100% croat catholics
yes but that doesn't mean that is where croats always lived. And croats are pretty mixed with serbs in the dalmatians, almost half of the croatian coast used to be populated by serbs.
but genetically they are different, a french dude and a german look the same but they are still different.