What is the deal with Huawei? NZ gov has apparently banned them from building our "5g" network, Everyone says they build faster and cheaper internet but that they spy on you? is this just the US gov trying to shut out competition? or should they be banned?
What is the deal with Huawei
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Kick the usa out and let china have at it.
5g is a death grid. It operates on known frequencies to fuck with living organisms and people are waving it in so they can download 4k porn faster
The world is going to hell
They're just like Google, only instead of CIA spyware, they have CCP spyware.
I no nothing about technology but it seems to be a big deal, all the other companies apparently offer much slower speeds for higher prices but Huawei offer faster internet for less, but they have been banned, some say this is because US companies can't compete?
we dont know.
msm does not report any details whatsoever.
This is what I hear, that the US companies spy as well so if that's the case why not just go with the cheaper faster Huawei, I wonder if it is really in NZ's interest to ban Huawei.
>Used to work with a spook agency.
>WW3 will be between the U.S. and China. Russia will enter midway and win, just like the U.S. in WW2.
>China is woefully behind the U.S. in tech. Won't be a fair battle.
>CIA is purposely leaking secrets to China to get them up to speed.
They make nearly all the tower tech for 4G like ZTE. It's all about Ericsson being butthurt of an incoming global monopoly.
That being said in Romania all cable tech fiber optics are ZTE and by 85% it's owned by one local company Digi. All cell towers are Huawei here. Market split between Vodafone and Orange mostly.
The Huawei phones are overpriced, like seriously. A mid ranger Huawei phone doesn't have fast charging, high resolution screen, water resistance like a Samsung of the same price. If anyone buys Huawei phone here it's something that's 2 years old tech so you get it at 150usd not 400usd.
Even the logo looks stolen lol
bullshit.
>bullshit.
>Which part?
Just like all Chinese corporations, they answer to the CCP. Both the US and and China will spy on you, but China is very certain to commit some Orwellian atrocities.
That the USA are leaking secrets to China.
But the USA system is also atrocious, Do you think their government are fair/nice to European people or White Americans? they seem to be an antiwhite system run by Jews and corporate money, are they really better than the China government?
>There was a news article sometime back that detailed how the Chinese had placed a chip on motherboards headed for the U.S. The Chinese never actually designed the chip. It was U.S./Israeli design.
>The design fell into Chinese hands via various "channels".
>There is a reason why the media is antagonizing the public against Russia.
>If this board actually looked past all the Jew hate, it would be able to figure out the actual geopolitical scenario that's playing out.
Yes.
The CCP aren't even nice to they're own people. They put them under a police state, any protest is met with violent crackdowns and corruption is on the level of Cyberpunk fiction.
(((Huawei)))
It's pretty simple. This is Cold War 2.0 politics. New Zealand is part of 5 Eyes which shares intelligence information with each other. This is good to keep tabs of foreigners from potentially doing serious harm to your country (like bribing politicians).
So when you have China, who has their backdoor in your communication equipment which could intercept this communication, it is a problem. Especially if it causing economic harm with one of your 5 Eyes partners (US, as huawei is one of many Chinese copycat companies propped up by the government).
People have gotten used to a globalized world order, but that only worked when the US could crush anyone who didn't play by the same rules. China is too big so now you are getting blocks of power. So if you really want to, lobby your government and align yourself with China, but like now with the US, you'll have to do what they say.
They’re red Chinese spies
>TFW when I'm less concerned about chicoms spying on me than I am CIA niggers
No it’s because Huawei is owned by a hostile communist government that is very clearly going to use it to spy
They are the chineese gov version of US gov backed google/apple spyphones.
Chinese companies are not independent of the government in the sense of Western companies, they are required to operate as arms of China's Communist Party and have party officials on their boards and positions of leadership.
Basically, Huawei is a Chinese controlled network meaning their equipment is ultimately controlled by China's government and all information flowing over it is gathered by China's government.
Any country that uses this shit basically is subjecting itself and it's citizens to the same type of overarching information gathering and spying that China already does domestically and is allowing China to project power into their country without a military.
Immensely dangerous shit.
Here is the real answer:
The Big Jew(rothchild and co) didn't get a cut of Huawei stocks for cheap during deep state negotiations.
Now (((they))) are retaliating by closing our markets to Huawei.
Plebbit and MSM is now preparing for war with China unless Rothchild and Co. gets a piece of their pie.
Just look at recent Plebbit and (((Bloomberg))) stories
Chinese spies and infiltration propaganda but 0 sources
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Prepare your anus, cuz now that we're out of Syria, we're gonna be dying for the big Jew in China.
>tfw New Zealand could fall to China, because we wanted latest generation in mobile telecommunications.
Yes.
They won't let the nsa put back doors into their network equipment
Not only that, 5G has the potential to control vital infrastructure like electricity, handles military communications, you name it.
intredasting tech thread outside of /g
mostly /g is very shitty and i am ashamed
New Zealand was handed over to the USA after WW2
Amerijews like to be the only ones able to spy on its allies.
The idea is that Huawei is too close to the CCP to be trusted not to include backdoors into critical infrastructure.
tl;dr: Only the NSA should be allowed to spy on western countries
Why doesn't Australia/NZ just build the 5g network themselves? It's not as cheap but it's far more secure
Because we're poor and our most wealthy entity is a giant dairy farmer association and China is fucking rich.
Is it just the west that's doing this? I haven't heard a peep about 5g in places like Japan who probably care about not poisoning their people to death slowly.
Literally untrue bullshit. Take your retard posting to Facebook.
The Western world does not need any Asian country, let alone China, to produce 5G infrastructure.
North America and Europe can engineer it and use it/sell it to all Western countries which is probably what will end up happening.
And what honestly has to happen.
And China will hack/steal the schematics of it one way or another through spies or corporate espionage.
That's the other angle that makes Huawei/China scary, it is very difficult to put spies in their country and businesses because of it's homogeniety. Open societies, especially now that they are sensitive to "racism" are at an inherent disadvantage.
this
The use of Chinese company products for 5G is also banned in Japan for the same national security reasons.
kek, top maple posting.
Basically this. Some of the founders are ex-military.
Yep, in an ideal opsec world everyone would roll their own.
Is heavily subsidized by the Chinese gov so It's products can be sold for dirt cheap so they can infiltrate computer systems around the world. Not only the US but it makes it impossible for the US to share Intel with it's allies out of the risk. The US is attempting to pressure the Italian Gov to remove its Huway tech and they say they dont want to because it's cheap
I think having welcomed "free trade" back in the 80's we have been more or less deindustrialized and don't really make anything anymore.
Yeah. We're a service based economy, that makes us very reliant on rich people coming over for tourism.
Service and agricultural, would be nice to see a NZ gov actually make sensible moves to try and see more manufacturing done here if that is possible.
the truth is that the kikes are becoming more and more worried that they'll be replaced by chinks. belt and road even affects israel along with every other part of greater israel, why bother striving for such a goal if you're just going to be indebted to chinks forever from there on? chinks know to manipulate and erase culture, they're an infestation, they inhabit canada like a plague and they're actively trying to cleanse xinjiang of native uyghurs. kikes realize that chinks actually are a legitimate threat to their plans and huawei plays a huge role in the chink plan for global dominance, so it makes sense that they'd try hinder them. however huawei and the telecom market are just one piece (though admittedly a large and important one) of the puzzle.
Unfortunately we have to worry about Maoris whining about MUH LAND.
Same thing happened in Aus a few years ago when the the Abbot government decided Holden and Ford were no longer important enough to subsidize and protect.
Country of 19 million people had a "free trade" new vehicle market with almost fifty brands and several of them Chinese and Indian subsidized by their respective governments to dump product.
Once a country loses the ability to manufacture heavy goods like automobiles it's almost impossible to get it back. Holden especially is an immense loss of talent.
All NZ police cars are Holdens
What are you talking about it, the contract was always going to go for a private firm it just won't go to Huawei instead another company will just pick it up
>would be nice to see a NZ gov actually make sensible moves to try and see more manufacturing done here if that is possible.
have you heard of a thing called comparative advantage
America is losing, that's all. Get used to many more companies getting bullied.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Apple products are made in China too, what's the problem?
>Get used to many more companies getting bullied.
Its a chink company you idiot
Huawei has links to the Chinese Communist party and every western intelligence agency urges not to use them in major infrastructure projects. People who are paid to Promote Huawei mobile phones etc are possibly shill working for china. I am putting together a list.
Is is the evolved version of the NBC peacock?
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pack it up its over
Basically the USA doesn’t want China to be high tech power.
Backdoors
The difference with having either CCP or CIA spy on us is one is a democracy and the other is a regime which seeks to build a military base on our soil
Nice Android devices.
Wireless is the reason people become more violent weird and lonely
It's caused a spike in autism and cancer plus a number of behavioural disorders
5G operates on a MUCH HIGHER FREQUENCY
So when you sit around people who all have smartphones you'd simply kill yourself a lot faster with 5G
5G is basically the last internet upgrade before us lab rats get genocided.
This. NSA has no way to get into Huawei and ZTE towers, switches and routers.
But also because Chinese government can order anytime the data collected by those companies.
So the reason is both. Data and security of westerners into the hands of Chinese and lack of backdoor on NSA, GHCQ and similar entities of 5 eyes countries.
Fuck off kike.
In fact go ahead and have 5g.
Found a chink. KYS
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you're gonna get banned nigger
It‘s a state funded company, so you should be careful. I worked for them for a while, they are chaotic evil
I'm posting from a Huawei phone right now. Its a great phone.
I joked with the guy in the shop that the chinos are probably using these recently popular handsets to spy on us and he laughed and agreed with me.
A week later Huawei people started getting arrested, on various charges and all this started kicking off.
It's fine, really. In fact the idea of some little chink sat in a huge data warehouse, crammed shoulder to shoulder with a hundred thousand other chinkies, listening to me pound off 5 times a day, tickles me pink.
Besides, it's not like our governments aren't already fairly openly gathering terabytes of data on each and every one of us for 'our own safety' right this moment.
I honestly don't trust gchq with me info any more than the Chinese and at least the Chinese sold me a good phone in exchange.
>What is the deal with Huawei
Do we really want the chinese to control our communications?
*laugh track*
Zog's care about your wellbeing you stupid goy
Really, please tell more about what it was like working for Huawei.
I agree, what a sad state of affairs that our own governments treatment of our own people is so bad that I don't really care so much about China spying on me if they offer cheaper and better quality products, my own government floods our country with third worlders and demonizes us if we complain.
I work for them right now. Truly chaotic evil
Hours are also atrocious , upsides are little to no women except when being hired as eye candy
yeah they spy on you just like google and apple do. Its just an excuse to stomp out cheaper competition because the company has some products that are very budget friendly and still pretty decent.
>Its just an excuse to stomp out cheaper competition
For a contract that the government is paying for?
Have you noticed how far left our fucking media has become? It's like a rapid descent into globalist bullshit
They are pretty retarded, not getting a proper database running, instead working with huge excel lists. They like lists a lot. They forge their numbers by time to please a little chinese wanting numbers. Chinese hate to lose their face so they prefer making shit up. Externals sometimes only get hired for 3 months, so you have constant pressure. And at any time some little chinese might kick you out for no appearant reason.
They are pushing hard to get into all markets and countries. If you ask me the Chinese mentality prevents themselves for achieving something big. They will not be able to exploit gathered data or infos, so I do not see China as a real threat.
I don't watch TV and haven't for many years for that very reason, their propaganda and anti European bias angers me so I avoid it but do read NZ news online.
Interesting, what do you mean by "forge their numbers" what numbers are you talking about?
read irlmaier faggot
china will try but lose and russia will try but lose
Check out the serpentza channel on youtube for good insight into Chinese culture.
Their basic rate limiting problem is that there is zero trust, integrity, or predictability in the society.
The only people you can kind of trust are your family, maybe. Everyone else will rob you blind. You cannot build an efficient society on this base.
Think Italy but without the honesty, uprightness and decency. /s
of course it spies on you, its fucking china! most countries agree on this, including MI6, its not just usa
this
>letting foreign governments control your telecommunications and information tech
what's next, letting non-citizens buy and own property in bulk in your country? Or how about occupy government positions?
They're a threat to Apple, so they're "bad"
Their phones piss all over everything else.
Absolutely shit tier quality smart phones.
I will never again buy chink crap except when I'm forced to in case there is no cost-efficient alternative around...
> t. Ching-Chang Chong
strewth
NZ needs the chinese exclusion act back
Praise Chinese technology.
>Can't tell if you're an actual bot or just that stupid.
China unironically spying on foreign citizens. Naw dawg that shits reserved for the US government.
The USA is smearing shit on them because they refuse to suck jew cock. Its all made up garbage and every nation follows the USA. The Iran shit was all a joke.
Can't wait to take those Chinks out. Will be able to do it from the comfort of my local military base.
Get fucked China LOL.
As for you Japan, we will let you guys, along with the Koreans, to take over once we take the Chinese commie regime out.
Good goyim
China was legit paying AUS/NZ politicians. China is shady as fuck, the CCP use anything they can use against well established democracy. This is really scary guys.
>Any country that uses this shit basically is subjecting itself and it's citizens to the same type of overarching information gathering and spying that China already does domestically
So China is trying to advance their spying program to bridge the gap between itself and the U.S.
Good Ching-Chang. Now go cook a dog so your family can have some meat to eat.