What created god?

So your saying nothing turned into god?

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Bush league post.
Zero on the bait scale.

Your essentialy asserting their must be something that created God, a higher power than God, which you nor can I think of, thus it does not exist, ergo God is the pinnacle of divine intelligence. Loved us so, sent his only begotten son to die for OUR sins.

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The humans obviously

God is creation. Everything is a manifestation of god

God is eternal. Sorry you can't comprehend that, none of us can because we are not Him

As God is the biggest thing we can comprehend and archetype being the biggest thing we can comprehend yet, we can definitely state, that God created God.

As for god - it was created by God.

something has to exist without being created. whatever god is, it is the ultimate thing. the source. brahman.

"Le Big Bang" was God

a whiter god?

Human beings created god as a place holder.

There is no such thing as "nothing"

Law conservation of energy states nothing can be created nor destroyed.

God is the reason the nutrients in your food you ate today chemically reacted into protein synthensis, and converted into energy (K) so you can move your muscles and utilize your brain effectively enough to understand your position in space and time.

Congratulations. You’ve discovered why people exclaim “mother of God”. Enjoy your unoriginal thought while pretending that it’s rhetorical.

So you are saying that god was created out of nothing then he created us? How did he originally come about? I want to know

What if universe has always been too? What if christian god is just jewish middle man, cashing out rent between eternity and humanity?

How fitting for jews to worship such a deity.

>worshipping the creation over the creator

top kek.
Dont listen to the serpent, listen to the Sun!

I'm not religious and not saying he's right but you're retarded for not being able to grasp that he's saying there was no beginning and that god always was and always will be

>place holder
wut?
doesn't even make sense
perhaps God created Turdeau as a place holder. The right man to cuck Canada enough that after WWIII starts, America can easily conquer mooseland.

How long is eternal exactly and how come he wants us to read his book?

Humanity

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God always was, nigga
shiieeeet

>you are saying that god was created out of nothing then he created us?

No, im saying to assert God requires creation from something OTHER than God would contradict the very notion of Believing in a all power monotheistic Omnipotent divine creator.

Insane iron age jews.

Himself.

this
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So you are saying he's a scientist but how did he come into existence?

*tips fedora*

Omnipotent according to humans, no real evidence of omnipotence in the bible.

Nothing does not exist it needs a observer to be nothing . Thus also God who is everything created nothing in this universe .Nothing does not exist outside this universe

Place holder is another term for axiom. A discrete concept you put in place when you can't explain something through logic.

For example, Thor used to be placeholder for atmospheric charge. This eventually evolved into monotheism, because it is more advantageous for conquest (simpler to force conversion to one deity), as well as civilization (less squabbling over dogma).

The word.

I understand what he's saying, but how does something that is eternal begin?

Genesis 1:1
>In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth
That was the big bang. The singularity.
Nothing before is neither proven nor disproven.

Dude just look at the words that Jesus said and his message. Your letting the world interpret the bible for you.

An image to hold in the mind's eye.
There have been many Gods over the years, to explain the unexplainable. The wind god, fire god, lightning god.
It's the reason (((they))) exist. God and (((them))) function as the same mental tool, a place holder.

Man

He is claming God always existed which is not true.

Pretty sure mother of God refers to Mary ... The mother of God.

Yeah the physical World.
Was created from something that had already been created, yet need not a creator.

Greeks claim Chaos made the universe yet the yid deity is the only correct one.

How can something eternal have a beginning or ending?

If you believe in the (((big bang))) as a scientific fact and not as, at best, a religion, you're a lost cause.

a brap from the brapqueen

with each sniff you can smell ten thousand galaxy

No evidence God is eternal.

>Dont listen to the serpent, listen to the Sun!

You are a girl. Listen to the moon.

Yeah, if you reaad bible, the god actually seems pretty incompetent and hides behind "divine plan" (aka godly version of 'I was just pretending to be retarded') or "free will"(which cant exist if there is a all powerful all knowing being) at every turn.

K but without being retarded can you explain to me who god is and where he came from and when

Greek antropomorphic gods overall are based as fuck and much closer to interpretation of reality.

Compare to cuck christians declared pre-existence of chaos a heresy in 2nd century. It implied that chaos created order (god), and would expose their dogma as the jewish middlemen they are.

There is no God its just insane jews making up crap to control their tribe.

It's ludicrous to think that the universe could have no beginning.

God has no beginning.

Briliant question. If god crested us though whats up with hunger?

In 40 years there are no more commies ... Praise God

Humans, I guess

>Law conservation of energy states nothing can be created nor destroyed.
laws of a universe only apply within that universe. so yes there is such a thing as nothing

Nothing created God, he was always there.

Nothingness is a paradox as it would always be something. Even the void outside the universe is a something not nothing.

If you think in kike terms of creation and procreation, you are more blue pilled than you know.

He existed before anything other than himself came into being. The Father is a single one, like a
number, for he is the first one and the one who is only himself. Yet he is not like a solitary
individual. Otherwise, how could he be a father? For whenever there is a "father," the name "son"
follows. But the single one, who alone is the Father, is like a root, with tree, branches and fruit. It is
said of him that he is a father in the proper sense, since he is inimitable and immutable. Because of
this, he is single in the proper sense, and is a god, because no one is a god for him nor is anyone a
father to him. For he is unbegotten, and there is no other who begot him, nor another who created
him. For whoever is someone's father or his creator, he, too, has a father and creator. It is certainly
possible for him to be father and creator of the one who came into being from him and the one
whom he created, for he is not a father in the proper sense, nor a god, because he has someone
who begot him and who created him. It is, then, only the Father and God in the proper sense that
no one else begot. As for the Totalities, he is the one who begot them and created them. He is
without beginning and without end.

>Even the void outside the universe

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you are looking at as if things can fit in the void. that is a childish way of looking at it, hence your memeflag

The Bible called it Alpha and Omega.

For the universe to exist it must be floating in something.

why do you seem to think space-time is a type of matter?

Corect.

God as a concept is flawed on so many levels that to have even ever argued in favor of such a fallacy suggests the debater is compromised beyond repair.

>he existed before everything
So was he just floating around in space? If so, isn't space a "thing" therefore existing before him?

Everything else you wrote was mumbo jumbo, but if you can in explain it with actual words that would be good

Yes you just defined God dumbass

Not only is he without end - He is immortal for this reason, that he is unbegotten - but he is also
invariable in his eternal existence, in his identity, in that by which he is established, and in that by
which he is great. Neither will he remove himself from that by which he is, nor will anyone else
force him to produce an end which he has not ever desired. He has not had anyone who initiated
his own existence. Thus, he is himself unchanged, and no one else can remove him from his
existence and his identity, that in which he is, and his greatness, so that he cannot be grasped; nor
is it possible for anyone else to change him into a different form, or to reduce him, or alter him or
diminish him, - since this is so in the fullest sense of the truth - who is the unalterable, immutable
one, with immutability clothing him.

No

>anything I cant explain must be god

retard just die

Not only is he the one called "without a beginning" and "without an end," because he is
unbegotten and immortal; but just as he has no beginning and no end as he is, he is unattainable
in his greatness, inscrutable in his wisdom, incomprehensible in his power, and unfathomable in
his sweetness.
In the proper sense, he alone - the good, the unbegotten Father, and the complete perfect one - is
the one filled with all his offspring, and with every virtue, and with everything of value. And he
has more, that is, lack of any malice, in order that it may be discovered that whoever has anything
is indebted to him, because he gives it, being himself unreachable and unwearied by that which he
gives, since he is wealthy in the gifts which he bestows, and at rest in the favors which he grants.

Yes now praise him

This makes more sense than everything else in this thread. Somebody please give me an answer

As far as we know subquantum forces are why anything happens in the universe therefore the same would apply to the universe. It would need to exist in a space with laws that allows the universe to even exist you fucking dumbass.

i heard that it rests upon the back of a turtle

Lol he literally said something is outside this universe

get mad bro

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Things which didn't begin(god) do need a creator

our universe had a beginning, according to both the big bang theory and creationism. And so it demands a creator/initiator

this video explains it well
youtube.com/watch?v=kKKIvmcO5LQ

He is of such a kind and form and great magnitude that no one else has been with him from the beginning; nor is there a place in which he is, or from which he has come forth, or into which he will go; nor is there a primordial form, which he uses as a model as he works; nor is there any difficulty which accompanies him in what he does; nor is there any material which is at his disposal, from which creates what he creates; nor any substance within him from which he begets what he begets; nor a co-worker with him, working with him on the things at which he
works. To say anything of this sort is ignorant. Rather, (one should speak of him) as good,
faultless, perfect, complete, being himself the Totality.

Norhing indicates God is outside the universe.

Wtf are you talking about?

the fact that there are no laws outside of a universe allows for a reasonable explanation for it's creation without having to say a giant magic kike did it.

You've accepted that something is and mus and must have been and will always be.
Modern "Science" doesn't even deny that.
Whether its a multi-verse, a pulsi-verse or profane radiation, which is supposed to have created the Particles, that got boom in the big bang.
At some way or the other, there is either no beginning or something that is ALWAYS.

And look where this is stolen from. Right from the bible. Because God is always, will always and have been always. Doesn't know beginning nor end.

Fascinating how similar "Science" and God can be, right?
Or in other words: All you did is labelling God "Science" and pretend like you took God out of the equation.

The actual state of modern "science". Just copy-pasta with some change, twist and plot.

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Then what existed before the big bang and how did nothing turn into something without an outside force?

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Not one of the names which are conceived or spoken, seen or grasped - not one of them applies to
him, even though they are exceedingly glorious, magnifying and honored. However, it is possible
to utter these names for his glory and honor, in accordance with the capacity of each of those who
give him glory. Yet as for him, in his own existence, being and form, it is impossible for mind to
conceive him, nor can any speech convey him, nor can any eye see him, nor can any body grasp
him, because of his inscrutable greatness, and his incomprehensible depth, and his immeasurable
height, and his illimitable will. This is the nature of the unbegotten one, which does not touch
anything else; nor is it joined (to anything) in the manner of something which is limited. Rather,
he possesses this constitution, without having a face or a form, things which are understood
through perception, whence also comes (the epithet) "the incomprehensible".

“god” is an a priori assumption about the universe. Nothing more, nothing less.

man

Nothing does not exist you need a observer to have a concept of nothing , nothing is created by God in this universe , it does not exist in eternity

>universe is an a priori assumption about reality. Nothing more, nothing less.