Do the ends justify the means?
Do the ends justify the means?
Matthew Brooks
Gavin Evans
Yes. All the popular media moral stories and narratives that say otherwise you have been taught are there to keep you from actually changing anything.
Jose Smith
Never. There is right and there is wrong and there is no compromise between the two. In fact, the entirety of existence could be seen as a struggle against the corrupting influence of evil
Jason Ross
No. Honestly, no.
Isaiah Roberts
Only if you win. Some evil acts are necessary. Is it evil to damn ones soul to save the soul of another? Isn't that the very thing our Lord Jesus Christ did?
Gabriel Rogers
>Only if you win
Honorary jew.
Justin Edwards
Yes.
Oliver Morales
Don't you have a dick to skin Hershal?
Bentley Hernandez
Are you sure it's not that the struggle of evil is corrupted by the influence of existence?
Christopher Gutierrez
No unless if it for ending racism, because thinking niggers is dumb is the ultimate evil
t.libshit
Brandon Anderson
Nah I agree we should stop that. Not sure how the muzzies would react to that though...
Carson Hall
>> Bait is...
Sebastian Edwards
The problem is when making a sacrifice to get something, you should try to keep the sacrifice to a minimum. Which is not at all what Stalin/Mao/Lenin/Polpot did.
Jayden Walker
yes, why wouldn't they?
Chase Foster
No. See if you will justify someone killing you for ideological purposes.
Lucas Wright
The entire story of the Bible is about the end justifying the means.
Angel Long
if leftists had foresight and new how to weigh human life they wouldn't be giving the third world so much food and medicine that it causes their populations to bloat way beyond self-sustainability.
Angel Clark
how
Mason Nguyen
Think of how terrible WWI was. If a utopia came out of it, would it justify the horror of it?
I feel if the means are horrible, a good end can't come out of it. The horrible things done will forever scar the people who did them and the society as a whole.
John Wilson
>t..the holocaust is a hoax!
>but holodomor that totaly happened!
salin mao and lenin did nothing wrong, except mao sold out at the end, and he was kind of stupid with that bird thing. Really mao was a good revolutionary, not a good leader. Pol pot meant well, he decided to test the extremes, he went all in and failed. History wont tell you, but for the lowest classes in cambodia things DID improve under him. If he had been successful it would have easily been a case of the ends justifying the means. People would criticize but wouldn't be able to argue with the outcome.
>leftists
Its capitalists who do these things, they want to build up a region to exploit it, then colonialism becomes out of fashion so they pull out causing much suffering. It repeats with different names.
Grayson Gomez
Violently I'd imagine
Chase Perez
The holocaust probably happened and so did holodomor, the effects of the Holocaust weren't allowed to take effect, while holodomor did. and the effect was less Ukrainians, along with the expansion of collective farming, in of its self an ineffective and stupid system, nothing else. The effects of the Holocaust can never be exactly known, but if fully carried out would most likely have led to a much better existence for the rest of Germany, due to the seizure of financial assets and the destruction of toxic materialist ideologies.
Tyler Collins
The popular media and moral stories that tell you otherwise could have only been allowed if Jews won, which they did.
"Victory requires no explanation. Death allows for none."
Justin Scott
Our enemies seem to think so:
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