Just came back from Sunday Mass at a pretty trad parish near me.
In commemoration of the feast day of the Holy Family, the priest sermonized on the decline of the family in the modern world.
>rejected homosexual adoption >attacked no-fault divorce >criticized a burdensome tax system that forces both parents to work instead of allowing stay-at-home mothers.
46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
47 Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.
And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
Owen Bailey
Fuck your church, catholicuck. Mary is a whore and jesus is a kike.
Jason Sanders
I came here to spit on the gays cause the patriarch of constantinople asked us to do so
Your religious leaders accepted to be part of the holy roman catholic church but you fell to political pressures from the rus and the turks Let that sink in
Cameron Turner
oi veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
Also it says in his wiki article he's in an open relationship getting cucked by his wife. God really is just.
That's not the point Jesus is most documented person ever in history from christian and non christian historian since little time from his crucifixion A book from a single man isn't going to overturn hundreds of years of evidence
Julian Carter
Yes, according to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei.
t. ex-trad
Joseph Cook
even if jesus existed he was just a crazy kike or a charlatan.
Dylan Bennett
That's the same council which affirmed conciliarism, ie denying papal supremacy in favour of episcopal collegiality, which is basically the Orthodox doctrine — a huge quandary for Catholic historians after Vatican I. Didn't resolve the Filioque question, though.
Joshua Mitchell
>Jesus is most documented person ever in history THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT CHRISTIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
Thomas Wilson
He was surely crazy for worldly men standards But no, in the end he's reliable
Justin Morris
Why ex
Anthony Young
No, that's what scholar results indicate Atheist argument is just a speculation on probability
Asher Morgan
>No, that's what scholar results indicate Unfortunately all of your "evidence" is from the late second century, or even later that.
Of course she was virgin when she gave birth to Jesus, but the Bible clearly says that she and Joseph slept with eachother after. Why do Catholics teach against such clear teaching?
Matthew 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus. >knew her not till >firstborn
Now a verse catholics bring up is "2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death." and say if Mattew is saying he would have slept with her because it says "till" rhen that would mean Mical had a child after she died. But it says "day of her death" not just "her death". She could have had a child then died later that day. Also it probably means she didn't have any children since it doesn't say "until" and most versions say the same thing or say she never had any children.
Read an article which got me doubting papal infallibility, came to the conclusion that papal infallibility was doctrinally and historically inconsistent, and once I had lost one article of faith the corrosive effect of doubt took hold until it had reduced my faith to nought.
Aiden Hernandez
No, there are sources from the first century
Juan Reed
>Mary was not a virgin forever. The bible doesn't say Mary was a virgin, you idiot. At least not in the original Greek text.
Camden Robinson
>No, there are sources from the first century Name them
>Tacito Tacitus doesn't mention Jesus. Someone scratched out the original name and wrote "Jesus" on top.
Asher Torres
If you don't like tacito i can direct you on the gospels
David Baker
>Jesus wasn't real Accept we have writings from Polycarp and Ignatius talking about Jesus. They are second generation Christians who were disciples of John the apostle
Easton Johnson
>If you don't like tacito i can direct you on the gospels You know that 95% of the gospels has been copied from the Old Testament, right...?
I have to admit, even as an atheist, I don't understand the rationale behind discounting the Gospels as historical evidence on the basis that they are Christianity's sacred text. They should be treated simply and purely as historical documents like any other (and it is for this reason that the consensus among historians is indeed that Jesus existed). I mean, we have much greater grounds to question the existence of other figures of Antiquity if we're using the sole criteria of (1) time elapsed between the death of the person and the first texts we have about them and (2) supernatural character of these texts. Alexander the Great is a good example, since the first sources we have about him date from three centuries after his death and refer to him as a god whose rule was prophesied by the oracles, etc.
papal infallibility has only been invoked twice in two thousand years, and both times to affirm mary as a saint. the fact that it exists is an absolute stopgap in the case of deviation from Christ, not to be invoked otherwise
priests dont actually commit more abuse than other males. newsweek.com/priests-commit-no-more-abuse-other-males-70625 The reason you think they do is because whenever a priest commits abuse theyre on the headlines for several months straight in every (((news media))). Whilst if a normal citizen commits abuse theyre barely mentioned in the fucking local newspaper.
>The higher ups in the church went out of their way to cover up the crimes. >You cool with that? Where the fuck did you get that assumption from? Of course im not. Those faggots will burn in hell for all eternity. Im just saying catholic priests dont actually commit more abuse than other males. But the (((media))) makes people think virtually every priest is a pedo, because theyre so desperate to damage Christianity
Juan Price
Same to you bro. Stay based
Noah Nelson
The only one who’s going to hell is you and the rest of your satanic pedo cultists
Kevin Lewis
so.. the article itself and the experts the article is based on are just liars? >and im a catholic.. not an argument.
Joshua Ross
Imagine following a religion invented by a shit eater
I don’t have anything against Catholics. I’m furious over the cover ups. So many lives ruined by priests because family’s trusted them.
Andrew Brooks
You ignored my comment.
Camden Evans
I want to dip my toes into catholicism. Into the bible, and biblical/stripture study. But not the established church of rome/pope/hierarchical clergy that are all rapists.
How do I do this? In Ireland, where everyone hates the church (for good reason), how do I discover biblical faith? I'd appreciate help
Liam Watson
oh also in addition: I don't want to waste my time with a church or catholic subset who have compromised their beliefs to appeal to the modern man
Oliver Ortiz
edit: I guess saying catholic here is wrong and i actually meant christian, sorry
Jeremiah Hall
vaticancatholic.com on youtube will do wonders for you
Aiden Fisher
I didnt.
Benjamin Cook
There is a /christian/ imageboard if you're interested. You could ask there.