Germany just raised minimum wage to 1800 USD per month

If you want to increase personal income for everyone one option would be to lower Social contributions and get rid of the retarded soli tax.

Germans already have one of the highest tax burdens in Europe.

this is such bullshit. 1800 USD a month, but you get ripped off by taxes. so in the end, you only get about 1000 USD. Now take into account costs for gas, rent, insurances, food and you end up with ~150 USD a month to spend/save.
truly a great country to live in!

Lmao @ butthurt wagies

If your income isn't at least €3500 a month you should kys immediately

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>All currency is equal in purchasing power and value
Aud might aswell be playdow compared to usd

mines around 600€

You are funny, I like you.

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kys yourself immediately

I know lolberts don't like the minimum wage, much.

I think that it's great for Germany. Now it will be down to one thing for anyone hiring. I have to get an office assistant and they're not cheap... do I hire the German or Abdul the Rapist? I have to get this right...

Creates even more separation between productive and non productive.

Gives as an idea that these things are not hommunism but entirely possibly in a Europe for Europeans.

I thought America was the land of freedom and efficiency? Apparently not.

What do you need all that money for you greedy bitch

Min wage = more debt printed = less value for your dollars

Learn the truth Germans

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3500 in London nets you less than 2500 in Berlin because of the housing

Perhaps unproductive people aren't meant to survive?

Isn’t the reason you have housing problems the same as in Britain, New Zealand and Canada? All Ex-British countries (except countries that broke free violently) have shitty regulations and a tradition of building over expensive small houses?

Build pic related, it’s cheap as fuck. Americans build them for 100-150k made out of wood or cardboard.

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The Soli is being phased out and courts have already said it is likely unconstiutitonal to only phase it out for 90% and not 100%. AKK (Merkel’s successor) has also called for post-Brexit tax cuts /social contribution reductions to stay competitive.

I say a kick in the ass and a bowl of soup a day. Fuck this constant begging.

1700 euros is 1300 euros net for a single person without kids and no religious affiliation.

The point is that a minimum wage equal to 4 Big Macs an hour is possible. Americans say that it is impossible as the Big Mac price would rise in correlation with minimum wage.

Because it'd be like adding indonesia to austrailia then implementing a robust minimum wage.

States have their own minimum wages except for a couple that then have the 7.25

But you can usually get a house for under 50 grand in those areas, so i don't really assume i have it better.

No welfare is not 400 bucks. It's 425 plus health insurance (at least 115 a month) plus your rent plus heating. So most freeloading fuckfaces and subhumans get around 1.000- 1.300 a month for just being lazy fucks. You don't need welfare, you don't need minimum wage. You need a cap on the production and import of human garbage.

>shitty 60s subsidized apartment.
You wish. You know how many times I have visitied fucking freeloaders and how many times I thought "damn I never had such a nice apartment as a bachelor!"? Fuck them!.

speculation from foreign investors aswell as boomers.Housing crisis could be sorted fast make a limit to how many houses one can own or lose a house you do not stay in primary if more than 2.But that will never happen.

Find what an unskilled job paid in 1970 and ADJUST FOR INFLATION.

It would be like $40 per hour, but thats no solution. The solution is to force the currency to keep its purchasing power by hanging those who devalue it over a fucking lamppost

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Now apply that to nearly every single fucking item you buy. No thanks.

Even one more reason to increase minimum wage. The differential between work pay and welfare pay needs to increase every year.

Can I come to Germany and get these gibs? How long can you collect for!

>make a limit to how many houses one can own

The British socialism runs strong in this one... wht you need is the free market, socialism has caused your housing crisis in the first place!

Man I could cop living in cardboard near no lakes for financial stability
Yankees got it right desu

Inflation was much stronger in 1970... which is why people were better off.

They look nice, but a hurricane can move them a few miles.

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I'm no socialist.How is it socialist to want to limit foreign investors or boomers sitting on 6+houses?Speculating houses is cancer.

you ever watched texas flip and ship?
Just move it back

Either that or buy some five dollar detroit houses and just move em to an empty lot in an afluent suburb

Mad profit

German accusing Englishmen of Socialism
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No they can't you stupid fucking kraut. We have building codes for a reason here. My house has withstood 150mph gusts. Half your shitbrick houses in Germany wouldn't even stand a chance.

Umm have you ever watched the documentary of 3 lil pigs

>Half your shitbrick houses in Germany wouldn't even stand a chance.

They are built to withstand nuclear blusts with 1200mph firestorm gusts.

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imagine comparing your shitty wooden houses to our chad european houses, everything here is either made out of bricks or rocks, in case of nuclear holocaust we could survive the blasts quite easily while your shitty house would simply get blown away.

Lower taxes and get rid of the retarded insurances.

I get 2200 before all that shit, and 1500 after.

THAT fucking shit needs to stop, fuck your socialist horseshit that'll just force everyone to literally work until their 70s you subhuman

No wonder that any German worth a shit tries to GTFO at this point, only morons, lazy, welfare subhumans, students with worthless degrees and gobmint employees get rewarded in this shithole country

i am fucking mad

>Germany will be a successful nation in the next decade

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Brick houses have proven to be bad construction material and bad at surviving nature, including earthquakes and wind. So why would you think bricks would survive a nuclear blast?

British houses might be small, atleast they're of high quality and very sturdy, which is not what you could say of the average american house, how the fuck can you feel safe when a simple kick is enough to make a hole into the wall? And afterwards people wonder why house robberies are so frequent there.

British houses are falling apart as Brits live in them. I lived there for a year and of the houses I have been there, half felt like shitty copies of the Hobbit Shire houses and the other half were copies of Soviet Khrushchyovka.

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>So why would you think bricks would survive a nuclear blast?
Maybe because I've been living in a house that is older than your country? Besides, it's not the only reason why in Europe houses are usually made out of bricks/rocks unlike America, Europe is relatively colder, and rocks/bricks are better at keeping the heat inside. They're awful in summer though.

Stop feeding them. Eliminate minimum wage. Problem solved. Minimum wage is what keeps them on welfare because they aren't worth that much money a month and never will be because they can't get the initial job that allows a competent person to train them how to be worth more than minimum.
Illegal for poor people to do almost everywhere
>cook food and sell it
>work under $__/h
>electrical work
>plumbing
>cut hair
>security work
>grow food in many cities
>have a lemonade stand
>have a food cart
The list is endless, my point is made. It is basically illegal for poor people to work. Just free the people and they'll be fine.

You cannot collect them if it can be proven you only came to Germany with the intent to collect gibs (that is if you're not a third world nigger ofc!). So you first have to be e. g. a university student for some time and obtain a permanent resident status.

Those kind of buildings aren't the finest example, their modern buildings are awful that's for sure.

We had no minimum wage until 2015. Now we have a minimum wage and our unemployment js the lowest since the 1960s. Explain that.

Isnt that what minimum wage is supposed to be?

This gap increasing will only lead to immediate demands for welfare to be raised accordingly. It's an eternal treadmill which will only lead to more debt and more inflation.

if you live like a monk you can probably save a lot more

Is that before or after taxes?

Yeah, bricks are shit. No match for OSB plates and 2x4s.

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Minimum wage is nothing but feel good bullshit. If people aren't worth minimum wage they just stay unemployed and become welfare leaches. Employers aren't throw money away. They'll just make their minimum wage workers work harder.

inb4
>Ich komme nach Deutschland

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"Der platonische Zwanni."

>that's what mutts really think

youtu.be/dTamE_rSGFA

>If people aren't worth minimum wage they just stay unemployed and become welfare leaches.
yes, but in times of worker shortages, this point is irrelevant

>Employers aren't throw money away.
sure thing, which is why the higher the wage levels in a country, the more automation investment and productivity investment is made, leading to cutting edge companies

>They'll just make their minimum wage workers work harder.
and that is bad, how? Also, what they actually do is make fewer tasks performed by humans and more by machines.

As long as migrants and refugees get full access as the entitled Germans they are I think it should be at least 30-40k a year as should unemployment benefits

What's tax like in Germany?

I'll be getting 75% of TV-L 13 level salary, which I think works out to be 2800 Euros/month.

I have a stay at home wife and will have a baby soon. How much net will I make?

>Import a bunch of people
>All of them got jobs!
>Explain that
probably bullshit

I lived in an efficiency by myself, going to school full time and working full time, had my own car, paid all my own bills, put myself through college and I was making ~$2000/mo USD take home. People need to stop living like niggers and they might be able to make it on $1800/mo.

Jews.

That's about what its at here, if I'm not mistaken

If you include sales tax and all the other passiv taxes to your average income tax something between 65-75% depends whether or not you drive a car.

Good. Germans work for the power and greatness of their state, not for money

minimum wage here is 327 euros kek

OMEGALUL. True.

every time the government tries to control the market it creates debt which gives control of the population to kikes. only way out is less government. thus no minimum wage and no social welfare.

what do we do with people that do not provide enough value to the employer to justify your proposed minimum wage?
And remember in order to justify 12 EUR/h you need to provide at least double that in value to your boss just to make even on the additional costs (sick days, health insurance, 21 days mandatory paid leave p.a., taxes, employment protection, etc.)

Starting on March 30, all Brits will be barred from Germany, so your question is irrelevanf.

jobs don't grow on trees. You have to provide value in order to make a living.

I feel you. Stopped working as an accountant to focus on my graduation and I live in a 92m2 flat in the inner city for 800 euros a month on welfare.

idiot

don't bother, dude. people like this are either shills or a lost cause

This

this is the correct answer

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Imagine bragging that your house can withstand "gusts"
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Have you even heard of our government. Efficiency does not describe this country.

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greed would be a better term

Sweden doesn't even have a minimum wage

Americas minimum wage is well below the poverty line, what’s your point??

Big Mac ain't never been 5 bucks. Maybe the meal, but the burger alone's never been that high.

kek

No it's not, the US poverty level is $12,000.

Or you can remove wellfare.

1800 would be rughly 1.3k after tax.
Rent, depends on where you live, 500-1k.
Because if you earn 1.8k/month, it is most likely you will live in a big city.
Big city = High-rents.
Now, transportation: Roughly 100Eu/month if you decide to go by Pub.Transport.
If with car: 100-300 for gas+insurance.
Food:
Will you actually have the time to go grocery shopping? If so, you could survive by spending 50Eu/week + another 30-50Eu/week for things you may need like shampoo/deodorants/etc.
Social life might be non-existent because if you earn 1.8k a month, you will be put to work day and night.
Entertainment; on the go, on your phone while you travel to work.

We're talking average Hans here/middle class.
Most people in their 30s already burn out and either go full blown "fuck everything" and kill themselves or they go "fuck everything" and do a terrible job at the expenses of the people,

This country has Work as the top priority yet they fail to establish a liveable work and social enviroment.
Let's not start talking about what the existence of the Jobcenter/Welfare has done to this country. Not only economically but mentally.
Also "Bildungswahnsinn" and "Wahnsinn" overall.
Welfare should be abolished. People should be treated like people.
And people will get butthurt by this but being on welfare is the most sane choice one can make. If you work, you're either a crab trying to drag everyone in your misery or a sociopath.

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