Jow Forums gets a PhD in Islam. Lesson 6: The Dhimmis

Hi, I'm Professor Kafir and welcome to our PhD course in Islam.
Since lots of people liked my interventions in pic related, I've decided to expand on the subject. I'm gonna tripfag so that muslims can't pretend to be me to post false info.

Ever wondered what Islam actually says/thinks/orders about a certain matter? Why is it that muslims and infidels often say opposite things? What is the truth? More importantly: how do I DESTROY muslims with facts and citations from their own holy books when they lie about their religion?

Jow Forums has the right intentions, but without knowledge there is no powah. Unfortunately, reading books about islam and sharia is boring. Fortunately (for you), I'm autistic enough to have done the job for you.
In this study course, we will examine the most eloquent passages in the islamic holy texts to really take a peek into the muslim mentality and find out their real beliefs and goals. Texts we'll use:

>The Quran.
The eternal, perfect, immutable Word of Allah. Here in several translations: quran.com

>The Sirat.
The biography of Muhammad (it's contained in the Sunnah).
PDF: archive.org/details/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume

>The hadiths.
Millions of anecdotes (also contained in the Sunnah) about stuff Muhammad said/did. Many are considered as binding as the Quran. You'll be able to verify their validity on sunnah.com

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islamqa.info/en/answers/34770/there-is-no-compulsion-to-accept-islam)
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memri.org/reports/friday-sermons-saudi-mosques-review-and-analysis)
mrctv.org/videos/anjem-choudary-takes-welfare-jizya-advises-jihadis-do-same
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sunnah.com/urn/1269770
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islamqa.info/en/answers/10471/knowledge-in-islam
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We'll also use:

>'Umdat as-Salik (Reliance of the Traveller)
A sunni manual of fiqh (islamic jurisprudence) from the 14th century. Still considered valid by the prestigious Al-Azhar university, the greatest of the sunni world, and given to american converts to learn sharia.
It's a manual of the Shafi school of jurisprudence, but the other 3 sunni schools agree on pretty much everything but the tiniest details, and when there are disagreements, the manual specifies it.
PDF: docdro.id/smiCPxn

>"A Summary of Islamic Jurisprudence".
A sunni manual (we'll focus on sunnis because they're 90% of muslims) of islamic jurisprudence written in 2001 by Saleh al-Fawzan, professor of fiqh and one of the most respected muslim scholars in the world. Just to check if modern muslims still agree with their ancestors (they do. They always do).
Vol. 1: islamfuture.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/a-summary-of-islamic-jurisprudence-volume-1.pdf
Vol. 2: islamfuture.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/a-summary-of-islamic-jurisprudence-volume-2.pdf

>Occasionally, other sunni or shia legal manuals.

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The curriculum will be thus articulated:

>Lesson 1:
Muslimspeak and Taqiyya (much more real and common than infidels think).
>Lesson 2:
Jihad (much more complex than you'd imagine).
>Lesson 3:
Muhammad (and why he was quite literally the anti-Christ).
>Lesson 4:
Quran and Sunnah (and why they're retarded).
>Lesson 5:
Science (what's that? is it halal to eat?).
>Lesson 6:
Dhimmis (a peek into your future).
>Lesson 7:
Pedophilia (and why it's endemic).
>Lesson 8:
Slavery (the most honored muslim tradition).
>Lesson 9:
Women (and how to clean their litter box).
>Lesson 10:
Honor killings (wife or kid pissing you off? Sharia is the solution).
>Lesson 11:
Faggots (and the best ways to murder them).

(I'm thinking of also adding an Appendix: “Basic Principles of Islamic Jurisprudence”. And a Glossary.)

Lessons will be on this board whenever I happen to have time.

>In pics related I'll post the previous lessons.

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Let's now begin our lesson about dhimmitude. Or, as I like to call it, Europe in just 2-3 generations from now.

Muslims LOVE to quote the ayah (quranic verse) which apparently says that islam cannot be forced upon anyone:

>«There shall be no compulsion in (acceptance of) the religion.» (2:256)

Wow, islam really is peaceful and tolerant, isn't it?
But wait, why is it then that millions of muslims have fought wars against the infidels in the past 14 centuries, and are still doing so in many parts of the world? Something doesn't add up, and every time reality and islamic scriptures differ, it's time to take a step back and wonder if the APPARENT meaning is really the true one.
In this case, we need to remember two things (and quoting 2:256 and other apparently peaceful verses without saying them is nothing but an act of Taqiyya):

>1) The doctrine of abrogation (naskh): the more recent surahs overrule the older ones.
And the second surah was revealed way before the most violent ones, like the 5th and the 9th.
The 9th surah is the one which contains the infamous Verse of the Sword we've already examined in the second lesson, and as stated in this fatwa, «These and similar verses abrogate the verses which say that there is no compulsion to become Muslim.» (islamqa.info/en/answers/34770/there-is-no-compulsion-to-accept-islam)
That entire fatwa is eye-opening and very relevant. And as we've seen in the second lesson, it's not a fringe opinion, but the most orthodox one, as confirmed by the most influential tafsirs (Ibn Kathir, Ibn Abbas, Al-Jalalayn).
(The apparent meaning of 2:256 is also disproved by the treatment apostates must get according to every single fiqh school: death for daring to leave the religion of peace.)

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>2) If you're an infidel, there is no compulsion to accept islam, but the alternatives are awful.
The actual meaning of 2:256, as interpreted by orthodox islam and not by western liberals, is that even though you can't force someone to become muslim because actual faith must be born spontaneously from one's spirit to be sincere yadda yadda, you can (and in fact MUST) force them to choose between three alternatives:
1) convert to islam,
2) die,
3) become a dhimmi.
These are the three options every infidel population has been offered in the past 1400 years everytime an ocean of muslims attacked and defeated it, usually without provocation.
The first two are pretty self-explanatory. We'll focus on the third.

Dhimmitude is a middle way islam offers to PEOPLE OF THE BOOK, meaning: Zoroastrians, Jews or Christians. People with a holy scripture were considered superior to pagans or atheists, since they're more similar to muslims, so they got the option of saving their hides and their religion by paying protection money to their muslim racketeers and accepting the status of 3rd class citizens:

>«The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya) – which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself – while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax.» (Reliance of the Traveller, paragraph o9.8)

>«The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax (jizya)) (Reliance of the Traveller, o9.9)

(Note: the Hanafi and Maliki schools of law allow ALL kinds of infidels to survive by paying the jizya.)

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And before a wild muslim appears to say that fiqh manuals don't matter because anybody can write one (ludicrously false, btw), dhimmitude is clearly established in the quran:

>«Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – (fight them) UNTIL THEY GIVE THE JIZYA WILLINGLY WHILE THEY ARE HUMBLED.» (9:29)

Muslims claim that since “dhimmi” means “protected person, person under the responsibility of muslims”, dhimmitude was a privilege muslim overlords extended to their infidel subjects, who usually, in the kind embrace of islam, had a better life than when they were free.
Needless to say, they're full of shit.

A few years after the quran ordered infidels to pay the jizya, in 637 AD, the Pact of Umar clearly regulated the (few) rights and the (many) duties of dhimmis. You can read its list of prohibitions and obligations here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pact_of_Umar#Content
Its discriminatory rules were never abrogated and are juridically valid to this day. The Pact considers dhimmis inferior to muslims and gives them much reduced political and legal rights.

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Essentially, according to the Pact of Umar:
>Dhimmis can't proselitize their religion, can't build new churches, monasteries or synagogues or restructure old ones, can't show their religious symbols, can't pray loudly or have religious parades.
>Muslims can enter churches, monasteries and synagogues whenever they want without permission and use them for shelter (or for any use, really, because who can stop them?)
>Dhimmis can't study the quran (and therefore can't point out its flaws).
>Can't live in houses taller than muslims ones.
>Must always SHOW SUBMISSION towards muslims, for example by giving muslims their seats, accepting any muslim traveler into their house and feeding him for at least 3 days, not dressing like muslims, and wearing their hair in a specific way to make them easily identifiable.
>They also can't bear weapons of any kind (muslims know that the 2nd amendment is a threat to a tyrannical government).
>Can't buy muslim slaves (even the slaves are considered superior to dhimmis, if they're muslim).
>Can't raise their hand on any muslim for any reason or their protected status is removed.
>Can't hold public office, govern or employ muslims.
>And finally, DHIMMIS CAN'T SEEK JUSTICE IN COURT AGAINST MUSLIMS.

In theory, paying the jizya makes the dhimmis' lives, freedom and property sacred, and no muslim can violate them. In practice, dhimmis have no legal way to get justice for muslims' unfairness and abuses.

The fiqh manual Al-Risala, one of the seminal legal texts of the Maliki school of law, states:

>«The testimony of an unbeliever is not acceptable either against a Muslim or an unbeliever.» (“Al-Risala”, paragraph 38.3c. PDF: muwatta.com/ebooks/english/risala_ibn_abi_zayd_salutations.pdf)

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Sheik Mustafa al-Maraghi, who has been Grand Imam of the Al-Azhar university and one of the most influential modern islamic jurists, said:

>«The testimony of a Dhimmi is not accepted because Allah – may He be exalted – said: 'God will not let the infidels (kafir) have an upper hand over the believers'.» (Maraghi, Abdullah Mustapha, "Islamic Law Pertaining to Non-Muslims", Library of Letters, Egypt.)

Al-Hidayah, a fundamental fiqh manual of the Hanafi school:

>«It is necessary that the witnesses be [...] Muslims; the evidence of infidels not being legal with respect to Muslims.» (Burhan al-Din Al-Marghinani, “Al-Hidayah”, Volume I, paragraph "Qualification of a witness".)

This obviously puts the dhimmis at the complete mercy of the muslims. A muslim raped you, your wife, daughter, sister or mother? Sorry dhimmi, your word has no value. Get back to work so you can pay us for our protection. A muslim has stolen from you, damaged your property, or beat you for no reason? Lol good one, dhimmi. Back to work. You hit a muslim in self-defense? Sorry, your claim is not accepted and you get executed.

The crucial fact is that muslim rulers have NO SUPERIOR AUTHORITY to answer to. They can do whatever the hell they want to dhimmis. It's easy to imagine the kind of abuse such a situation can produce. Like when in 717 AD, after the second failed siege of Constantinople, caliph Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz ordered in retaliation to kill every dhimmi who wouldn't immediately convert to islam. The order was later canceled, but not before it caused innumerable deaths.
Dhimmis always lived uncertain, humiliating lives which could be ended on a whim by any muslim with the weakest excuse.

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The jizya is established not only in the quran, but in the sunnah as well:

>«[Muhammad said:] "if they [the unbelievers] refuse [to convert to islam], then take the Jizyah from them, and it they refuse then seek aid from Allah against them."» (Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1617. sunnah.com/tirmidhi/21/81)

As we've seen in paragraph o9.8 of Reliance of the Traveller, muslims like to claim that the jizya is more symbolic than an act of greed, that the important thing is “their paying it, not the money itself”, because, as quran 9:29 says, the conquered infidels must be “humbled” (jizya literally means “penalty”):

>«Dhimmis were required to pay the jizya publicly, in broad daylight, with hands turned palm upward, and to receive a smart smack on the forehead or the nape of the neck from the collection officer.» (Prof. Josef Meri, "Medieval Islamic Civilization: An Encyclopedia", entry: “Dhimma”. On the same page, it's stated that the dhimmi who doesn't pay up is subject to imprisonment.)

Muslims seem to think that this makes them look noble and disinterested. But even admitting that robbing your victims because you want to humiliate them is less reprehensible than doing so out of greed, muslim history clearly shows that the monetary aspect of the jizya has always been a pretty big deal.

The amount dhimmis had to give to their muslim overlords varied enormously. Jizya has NO MAXIMUM AMOUNT. It depends both on the greed of the muslim ruler and on the financial state of the muslim treasury. When muslims have money problems, dhimmis are squeezed like lemons. When muslims starve, dhimmis starve first and worse. After all, if the caliph decides to increase the jizya, who can stop him? As a result, the jizya could swing wildly from 5% to over 50% of the dhimmis' belongings.
(And even 5% is still double the zakat, the mandatory alms that every muslim must pay annually to the muslim treasury.)

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Here's a nice 20 minutes video about the jizya, if you want to explain it to other kuffar with the attention span of a mosquito:

>youtube.com/watch?v=H5MZPYC-yMg

Muhammad himself enforced a primitive version of the jizya when, after defeating the jewish tribes of Fadak and Khaybar, accepted to spare their lives in exchange for regular payments. The Khaybar farmers told him clearly: we're better farmers than you, let us work the fields and we'll forever give you half of our harvests. Muhammad, which had no intention to stop being a robber to become a farmer himself, accepted the deal. (Sirat, paragraph 764. Also Sahih Bukhari 2338. sunnah.com/bukhari/41/19)

The Sunnah also clearly states that the jizya will remain valid until Jesus will come back from the heavens, so muslims are still allowed to claim it from their victims:

>«The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax.» (Bukhari 2476. sunnah.com/bukhari/46/37)

(Reminder, to avoid misunderstandings, that the islamic Jesus was a completely different person from the Christian one, had a different biography and spread a completely different message. Muslims don't respect the CHRISTIAN Jesus, only the muslim one, who preached islam and never said that the meeks shall inherit the Earth, that we must treat others as we want to be treated, etc. Two completely different fellas.)

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There are 2 kinds of jizya:

>1) Jizya Sulhiya (conciliatory jizya).
It's the type of jizya recognized by ALL fiqh schools. It's the "standard" jizya, the money non-muslims need to pay to save their necks. The payment can be individual or collective. Like we said, there is no maximum amount, it's up to the judgment of the muslim ruler. If dhimmis refuse the deal, they get killed.
The Hanafi and the Maliki schools however, out of generosity or greed, give reluctant taxpayers one last chance to avoid death:

>2) Jizya Anawiya (forced jizya).
According to Hanafi and Maliki jurists, if an infidel refuses to pay the standard jizya, rebels and gets defeated again (and survives the battle), instead of being immediately executed, he must be offered the chance to pay jizya anawiya. This kind of payment has a personal nature and it's owed by the single individuals who rebelled and not by the whole community (women, children and terminally ill people are exempted).
This kind of jizya does have a maximum amount: depending on your social class you have to pay 12, 24 or 48 dirham (at the time, 3 dirham was the price of a shield, it's very difficult to quantify it in today's dollars). If you refuse again, you get killed.

In addition to the jizya, there is also the less famous KHARAJ, a tax on the land the dhimmis own. This tax also has a symbolic value together with the monetary one: since Allah gave the entire Earth to his followers (as said in quran 24:55 and 6:165), non-muslims must pay “rent” on the land they inhabit, because that land is actually the muslims' property.

All in all, the fiscal income from the dhimmis was so vital to muslim rulers that some of them (like al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf) got to the extreme of FORBIDDING DHIMMIS TO CONVERT TO ISLAM so they would have to keep paying the jizya.

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According to the apologist narrative, the dhimmis happily paid the jizya to muslims so that they didn't have to join the army and the muslims would protect them from external threats and generously fight in their defense... except that the only dangerous aggressors were the muslims themselves, and the reason why the dhimmis didn't join the army is that they were FORBIDDEN to bear arms by those same muslim extortionists.

Muslims today try to appear as kind people simply providing a protection service, but the reality was a lot more gruesome. If the dhimmis couldn't pay the jizya, not only they got thrown in prison, but they often HAD THEIR CHILDREN STOLEN. This happened in 643 AD, when Amr ibn al-Aas conquered Tripolis and forced jews and christians to give him their kids to be enslaved. From 652 to 1276, Nubians had to send a certain amount of slaves every year to the Cairo, and the same happened to Armenia, Sistan, Fezzan, Greece, Albania, and other dhimmi provinces. The number of stolen kids could reach 12k a year. (Ibn Warraq, "Why I am not a Muslim", chapter 9, par. "The Pact of Umar".)

There also existed the practice of DEVSHIRME, the forced enlisting that the ottomans used for centuries. They kidnapped dhimmi children, indoctrinated them to be ruthless soldiers for the muslim empire and then send them to fight other infidels. (This is how the infamous Janissaries were created.)

Muslims point out that every once in a while there was a kind muslim ruler who ordered the dhimmis to be left alone and not abused. That's true. In 722 AD, for instance, caliph Hisham ibn Abd al-Malik ordered the brutal commander Usama ibn Zaid to stop slaughtering christians just because they were infidels. But the occasional magnanimous dictator doesn't change the unfairness that the institution of dhimmitude inevitably possesses, since it's based on the assumption that dhimmis are inferior to muslims.
(And the kindest ruler still kept extracting money from the dhimmis.)

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Apologists often try to make it seem like dhimmitude, jizya and kharaj are things from the past which islam has left behind. Not so. They were NEVER ABROGATED, therefore orthodox islam still consider dhimmitude the right way to deal with unbelievers.
I'll leave the floor to some contemporary muslim scholars and leaders:

«[After talking about offensive jihad, meaning the invasion of infidel countries without provocation:] And the Ulama have mentioned that this type of jihad is for maintaining the payment of Jizya.»
(Sheikh Abdallah Azzam, "Defence of the Muslim Lands", 1993. archive.org/stream/Defense_of_the_Muslim_Lands/Defense_of_the_Muslim_Lands_djvu.txt)

>«We cannot simply say that because we have no Khilafah [caliphate] we can just go ahead and kill any non-Muslim, rather, we must still fulfill their Dhimmah.»
(London-based Islamist Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, leader of the Al-Muhajiroun movement. MEMRI Special Dispatch n. 435, october 2002. memri.org/reports/islamist-leader-london-no-universal-jihad-long-there-no-caliphate)

>«[Dhimmitude is still] the proper paradigm for relations between Muslims and Christians today.»
(Sheikh Yusuf Salamah, Under-Secretary of Religious Endowment, representing the Palestinian Authority at an Inter-Cultural Conference held in Teheran. Newspaper “Al-Hayat al Jadida”, 12 May 1999.)

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>«If the infidels live among the Muslims, in accordance with the conditions set out by the Prophet -there is nothing wrong with it provided they pay Jizya to the Islamic treasury. Other conditions are... [proceeds to list all the rules we've already examined from the Pact of Umar.] If they violate these conditions, they have no protection.»
(Sheikh Marzuq Salim al-Ghamdi, quoted in MEMRI, Special Reports n. 10, September 26, 2002. memri.org/reports/friday-sermons-saudi-mosques-review-and-analysis)

In this video from 2013, our pupils and ears have the privilege of being offended by a british muslim cleric, Anjem Choudary, sentenced in 2016 for endorsing ISIS to his followers, making death threats to infidels, and generally being a good muslim, and released on parole in 2018 by the enlightened UK government so he can continue poisoning the country from the inside.
Choudary, which at the time got more than 25,000 pounds in welfare annually, describes it not as alms, but as jizya taken from the infidels: mrctv.org/videos/anjem-choudary-takes-welfare-jizya-advises-jihadis-do-same
>«The normal situation by the way is to take money from the kafir, isn't it? So this is the normal situation. They give us the money—you work, give us the money, Allahu Akhbar. We take the money.»
Wonderful islamic wisdom.

With the exception of Choudary, all the scholars I've quoted wear the honorific title of Sheikh. It's worth pointing out that it's a title only awarded to the most distinguished scholars, political leaders, and even members of the royal family.
These people are not fringe nutjobs expressing opinions basically no muslim shares. They're authoritative voices expressing orthodox islam.

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It's now worth examining the peculiarity of islamic morality, so radically different from our own.

While western morality, like it or not, derives straight from the Golden Rule stated by Jesus Christ (treat others as you would like to be treated), which has provided the basis for other moral and legal concepts such as “everyone should be the same before the law” and “every human being possesses inalienable rights that no one can violate”, the islamic morality is built upon a single principle called Al Wala' Wal Bara'. Which means “to hate what Allah hates and love what Allah loves”.

This is THE ONLY MORAL PRINCIPLE IN ISLAM. The good person is the one who hates what Allah hates and loves what Allah loves. Period. No other action is required to be a moral person. You don't need to think for yourself or seek your own values, you just need to read the Quran and the Sunnah and hate what Allah and his mouthpiece Muhammad told you to hate, love what they told you to love.
Which is a problem for us kuffar, considering that Allah had made it pretty clear he hates our guts:

>«Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not (ever) believe.» (quran 8:55)

>«[The infidels ask:] "When we are dead and have become dust and bones, shall we (then) verily be resurrected? And also our fathers of old?" Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Yes, and you shall then be HUMILIATED."» (quran 37:16-18)

>«Those who dispute about the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, without any authority that has come to them, it is greatly HATEFUL AND DISGUSTING to Allah and to those who believe.» (quran 40:35)

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Grand Ayatollah Khomeini has stated the Shia vision of the non-muslims:

>«There are 11 things which are impure: urine, excrement, sperm, bones, blood, dogs, pigs, NON-MUSLIM MEN AND WOMEN, wine, beer, and the sweat of the excrement-eating camel.
>«Every part of the body of a non-Muslim individual is impure, even the hair on his hand and his body hair, his nails, and all the secretions of the body.» (Ayatollah Khomeini, "The Little Green Book – Selected Fatwas", pp. 27-28. archive.org/details/TheLittleGreenBook--AyatollahKhomeini)

Infidels are as revolting as excrement and urine.
This deep disgust is what has generated the dual morality of islam, which considers muslims ontologically superior to unbelievers. This is why their legal manuals openly and unapologetically discriminate against non-muslims:

>«It is not permissible to give zakat [charity] to a non-Muslim» (Reliance of the Traveller, h8.24)

>«a Muslim may not inherit from a non-Muslim, and a non-Muslim may not inherit from a Muslim.» (Reliance of the Traveller, l5.2)

...and even dare to state clearly that which for us is taboo to even hint at: that the life of somebody is worth more that the life of somebody else by virtue of his beliefs:

>(o4.9) «The indemnity [compensation for death] paid for a Jew or Christian is ONE THIRD of the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid of a Zoroastrian is ONE FIFTEENTH of that a Muslim.»
>(o1.2) «The following are not subject to retaliation: [...] 2) a Muslim for killing a non-Muslim.» (Reliance of the Traveller, Shafi fiqh manual.)

>«Since islam considers non-Muslims inferior in faith and religious beliefs, if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim [...] he must not be sentenced to death, since the faith and religious beliefs he possesses are more noble than the ones of the man he killed. A fine is enough.» (Sultan Hussein Tabandeh, "A Muslim Commentary on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights", F. T. Goulding & Co., London, 1970, p. 18.)

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>(37.1a) «A free man is not killed for a slave nor a Muslim for a non-Muslim because the higher is not killed for the lower.»
>(37.10f) «A Muslim is not killed for an unbeliever but an unbeliever is killed for a Muslim. It does not matter whether the Muslim is free or a slave, but an unbeliever is killed for a free or slave Muslim.» (“Al-Risala”, Maliki fiqh manual. muwatta.com/ebooks/english/risala_ibn_abi_zayd_salutations.pdf)

>«There must be equivalence between the murdered person and the murderer when the action of killing has taken place. In other words, they must be equal in religion, and freedom or slavery. That is, the murderer should not be superior to the murdered person due to being a Muslim or being a free person while the murdered is a disbeliever or a slave. Accordingly, a Muslim is not to be sentenced to death in qisas for killing a disbeliever.» (Saleh Al-Fawzan, "A Summary of Islamic Jurisprudence", Hanbali fiqh manual, 2005, Vol. 2, Part IX: "Qisas (Legal Retribution)", chapter 2, p. 530.)

It's normal that every fiqh school is in agreement on this delicate issue. After all, multiple sahih hadiths have stated this principle, so no muslim can deviate from it:

>«A believer should not be killed in retaliation for the murder of a disbeliever» (Ibn Majah, hadith n. 2762, book 21. Grade: sahih. sunnah.com/urn/1269770 Repeated in at-Tirmidhi 1413 and Bukhari 6915, also of sahih grade.)

Note that none of this rules makes an exception for dhimmis. Dhimmis pay protection money to the muslims, but they're still unbelievers. And as we've said, their testimony is not admitted in court. If a muslim decides to kill a dhimmi and then claims that the dhimmi insulted Muhammad or Allah, the judge will praise him and he's gonna be home for dinner.

But hey, at least they don't look at us in a funny way because of our hijab. Pic related is a REAL victim of discrimination.

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This is also why muslims will never integrate in non-muslim cultures. Because they're commanded not to get too chummy with us inferior, disgusting beasts:

>«The believers must not take the disbelievers as friends» (quran 3:28 and 4:144)

>«Believers! Do not take for intimate friends those who are not of your kind.» (quran 3:118)

>[Abu Dawud 2787] «The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: "Anyone who associates with a polytheist [mushrik, any infidel] and lives with him is like him".» Grade: sahih (undisputable). sunnah.com/abudawud/15/311

To sum it up, muslims and infidels must live in distinctly separate legal, political and possibly geographical conditions. Islam is a great fan of apartheid. (Ask your pro-islam liberal friends why they support the most discriminatory ideology still in existence.)

Interesting fatwas to go deeper into the issue:

>"Can a Muslim be a sincere friend to a kaafir?" islamqa.info/en/21530
>"Should he allow his daughter to sleep over at her non-Muslim friend’s house?" islamqa.info/en/174574
>"Does Islam regard non-Muslims with mercy and compassion?" islamqa.info/en/128862

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A good muslim hates what Allah hates and loves what Allah loves. No exceptions. No questions. As we've seen in the previous lesson about islam and science, one of the most basic principles of the religion of peace is that divine revelations have the priority even on logic and evidence. Muslims must do what Allah orders them to do even if they don't understand why, since, as the quran repeatedly says:

>«Perhaps you dislike something which is good for you and like something which is bad for you. Allah knows and you do not know.» (2:216. Also stated in 3:66 and other verses.)

And this drop of philosophical poison was enough to generate dhimmitude, slavery, eternal unprovoked warfare, slavery, legalized pedophilia, and everything else that makes islam cancerous to any other culture.


I hope you've enjoyed our lesson and are more and more horrified about the future liberals are choosing for us, our children and grandchildren every minute of every day, with every “article” about our awful islamophobia and our need for more muslim immigrants, every apologist discussion, every repeated muslim lie, every pro-islam twitter hashtag, every doxxing, deplatforming and censoring of anyone who dares to expose their lies and islam's REAL plans for our countries.

See you all in the next episode.

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bump

Bump and fuck islam.

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Alluah Akbar, my dude :D

Suck a dick faget.

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Bump for interest. You collected a huge amount of sources. It's an impressing job.

Archived thread:
>archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/198520600/

Great effort OP, but besides your efforts, most muslims are still honorable people with good morals and values:

>god first
>no smoking
>no drinking
>no gays
>women under man for a stable society

>a turkroach pretending to be german

nigger titties

Nice memeflag
I'm 50% aryan and I don't condemn non muslims, I judge every individual equaly and fairly

>50% aryan
So you're a nigger.

>I judge every individual equaly and fairly
Typical meaningless libtard attempt to appear wise and enlightened. If 1 billion people all want to destroy us, shouldn't we judge all of them as enemies?

imagine living in a 3rd world shithole like the US

Another mudshit.

Belgium has already fallen, but the rest of the world will crush you all like the roaches you are.

yeah whatever, have fun paying student loans until your forties redneck

>he's actually using the student loans meme
Have fun licking muslim smegma for your entire life, worthless piece of shit.

Here's the screenshot of this lesson.

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arabs are beneath the hierarchy here, meanwhile amerifags are controlled by kikes and paying taxes to israel while being all patriotic about it

>amerifags are controlled by kikes
Europe instead is kike free.

It's because the imported people are uneducated, analphabetic, lazy, dumb leeches. Has nothing to do with islam

You put a lot of effort into this, but do you really believe in your hearth that islam is this hearthless and truly evil?

Wake up!
(((They))) want us divided. Let's respect our differences and work together to create a society worth living in!

>if they want to destroy us it has nothing to do with islam
Be quiet in the classroom and read the lessons instead of spouting such bullshit. Three minutes would be enough to realize that islam is the main problem here.
Start with lesson 2.

Shut the fuck up Ahmed. Once Merkel croaks and the EU implodes and causes Germany to go broke, you'll go the way of the Armenians. Adolf was too kind for his own good.

Ah, the usual tactic. "If you're against islam you're pro-jews! Wake up sheeple!!!1!!eleven!!"

Not gonna buy it, mohammed. Islam is a cancer incompatible with western civilization, regardless of other cultures' flaws.

You both are truly unstable in your hearths. I hope you find to god one day. May he lead you to true happiness.

Instead of proving anything he said wrong you just insulted him i can't wait untill we pull out of the middle east so Israel is destroyed next we're coming for you dirty shitskins

Still trying the spiritually superior pose, mohammed?

Your religion is a piece of shit preached by a mentally ill liar, pedophile and thief. No amount of Taqiyya is going to change that. You muslims are far too idiotic to trick people who can read your holy books.

Your point about the culture is correct and I agree,culture needs to be preserced.Regardless different cultures can still lead to greatness and enrichment. Take a look at Taiwan for example.

>Three minutes would be enough to realize that islam is the main problem here.

but Turks also cant stand the millions of syrian refugees in Turkey (theyre both muslim), so I ask you, is Islam the problem here, or is it the Arab culture?

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Welcome back, Based Professor!!! God bless you!

>different cultures can still lead to greatness and enrichment.
Not if one of those cultures is islam. Islam doesn't cooperate. It attacks, stabs in the back and robs. Islam doesn't advance, it drags everyone else back.

>we're coming for you dirty shitskins

okay sebastian, its all good

Yes the arabs are inbred retards but don't forgot who started your religion, it doesn't matter if an aryan adopts islam it is still objectively evil.

People who don't understand the true meaning od the verses will forever taint it. Just look at how the catholic church tainted and missrepresented the bible verses throughout history. Follow the principles of truthfulness, compassion and tolerance and you will truly lead a good, moral and just live. Peace.

Islam is the main problem, since it's an ideology based on eternal aggression, religious discriminations, scientific obscurantism, censorship, pedophilia and general inhumanity.

Also, turks are roaches. You seem to have the delusion that they're better than arabs. You must be a turk.

I don't get your meme is Sebastian supposed to be an insult like calling me tyrone or Abdul?

>Lustful touching to a 9yo girl
> the rest
I want to throw up.

Imagine living in a shithole like Belgium

Let's just say that many scholars twist the meanings of the verses to fit their agenda. A country where Islam works great and is truly implemented correctly, is Uzbekistan.

>implyng italians arent arab

Quality thread !

I will read instead of cooking tonight, I am ordering a fucking haram pizza with ham, pepperoni, sausage, bacon.... what else ? NEED PORK !!!

>People who don't understand the true meaning od the verses
And here we go with the oldest excuse in the book.

I guess Ibn Kathir, Al-Suyuti, Ibn Abbas and the other tafsir authors didn't understand the "true" meaning of the verses.
And the same is true for the founders of the 4 madhahib all for the scholars who wrote every fiqh manual in existence.

But you, retarded user, you understand it better than them. When they interpret a verse as of meaning "slaughter all the infidels and rape their women", you see that it actually means to hug them.
You must be a prophet.

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Islam is the only religion or culture encouraging open attacks against neutral civilians. It makes sense, as if you aren't pro islam you are an enemy.
Tell me, how can you culturally exchange anything with them?

>many scholars twist the meanings of the verses to fit their agenda.
True. The muslims who try to pose as "moderate peaceful muslims" do, in fact, twist the meaning of the quran and the hadiths. Look at the lying snakes that compose the Cair and other muslim organizations, which preach peace and love and meanwhile subvert and indoctrinate and send money to terrorists overseas.

The muslims who want to destroy the West and enslave us all instead interpret them correctly and are following the example of their retarded prophet. Who, when he was alive, did the exact same thing to everyone around him.

What is your opinion on Israel and the jews, you seem very smart and i would like your opinion.

Oh le great intelectual meme. Just because the (((current pope))) is praised by the media and dumb catholic priests doesn't mean that he is someone a majority of christians (and non christians) agree with. And even if, it doesn't make him or his actions any better and the true god in heaven knows all his faults and the evil agendas he pushed. Lastly don't let the (((elite))) divide you, hating one another will never solve the problems we're currently facing. I'm against the mass immigration of the middle east into europe too and I strongly believe in traditional culture that needs to be preserved.

Thank you for that
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PhD youTube channel
youtu.be/PupDC2gA5-4

>student loans
>redneck
I thought we were supposed to be uneducated. You can't have it both ways you fucking imbecile. You peasant. Belgium? Don't you have some black kids' hands to cut off you fucking subhuman? You're not even a real country, just some afterthought of the French anymore. You're such a bunch of fussy, self-important autistic faggots that you can't even agree enough among yourselves to have a government for how many for YEARS running?

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Like I said take a close look at Uzbekistan and their leader. I want other muslim countries to look more like that and currently a lot od muslim countries suck. Mainly because people don't read the verses with their hearts, but let retarded scholars elaborate them instead. Same problem christianity had and still has with the (((catholic church)))

How can you have a PhD and still believe in a magical sky fairy?

Israel is the materialization of the jews' innate cuntishness, selfishness and egocentrism. A country the jews created using not their own strenght but the borrowed strenght of dumb goyim.

Not only that, but they created it on already occupied land, knowing perfectly well that this would have caused mayhem and not giving a shit about it, because only what THEY wanted mattered. They knew it would revamp islamic terrorism and create chaos for decades, and they didn't care.

They also used ad.hoc discriminatory laws to justify their slaughters and thefts with loopholes that wouldn't fly even with the most retarded, drunk judge in the world. (See the Abandoned Areas Ordinance.)

And now they try to pose as a beacon of freedom and democracy for the entire planet... all the while sucking billions of goy money, manipulating our media, our schools and our finance, and creating even more problems for us by pushing their unwanted parasites in our houses.

With israel, jews really showed what they're made of, and why pretty much every country they've ever (infiltrated) (infested) inhabited after a while kicked them out.

>le great intelectual meme
That is not a meme. The muslim scholars I mentioned (ibn Kathir, Ibn Abbas, Al-Suyuti, the 4 founders of the 4 sunni madahib) are the backbone of islamic theology. Their interpretations are (literally) law. They constitute the ijma.

Denying their crucial importance is just the last, desperate tactic of any muslim who finds himself stripped of all his lies and accused of being the follower of an obvious death cult.

Best fucking thread on Jow Forums in a long time.
>page 3
lets change that

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God is not a sky fairy. Try to envision god like nature instead. It's more complex than that, but should give you a general idea. Nature has many working, natural laws as well and they all make sense

Bump, goin g to save this read for l8er

The "you can't understand the verse so you can't understand our religion so shut up while we keep invading your country and getting your welfare" meme is old as fuck. The problem is the opposite one. We start understanding the verse better than ever.

Do you think society would be better of with forced atheism? If so, wanna live in China?

tl;dr Sunni islam is shit

>people don't read the verses with their hearts, but let retarded scholars elaborate them instead
Pal, that is what they're SUPPOSED to do. Modern muslims CAN'T interpret the verses however they please. They're expressely forbidden by it.

The gates of ijtihad (personal interpretation) were closed centuries ago. Now muslims must only obey and follow past interpretations, otherwise they're apostates.

This is basic islamic theology we've already examined in previous lessons. You strike me as one of those "moderate" muslims who ignore all the theology they don't like and make up their own version of islam. In other words, munafikun. Are you an ahmadiyya or a sufi?

You better hope REAL muslims never come to your house, cause they're not gonna like your heresy.

Not really. If we were to force state run atheism we would end up like China. Additionally even the best of laws/ rules can be twisted by evil. Why do you think the catholic church is so full of evil, digusting, corrupt pedos?

Oh, the old false dichotomy fallacy. You're trying to make it look as if islam and forced atheism are the only 2 options. Not so.

Doesn't matter what Islam is, it does not belong in Europe

>If we were to force state run atheism we would end up like China.
Again, there are more options than simply islam or forced atheism.

You're trying to divert the discussion from islam's flaws to atheism's with one of the clumsiest, oldest dialectical tricks in existence, and it's adorable.

You muslims are really not used to debating. Or thinking. It's quickly apparent in every discussion.

Thank you, kind ghost.

Here’s the archive of this thread based professor

archive.fo/wpTpT

Agreed

Like what?
It isn't about islam vs atheism, it is about traditionalism that can save people and has beautiful culture, to so called modern art and culture and problems that arise when culture is erased for modernism. What religion or world view do you follow? Where do you take your morals from?

Get a few beers in too

Read this:
islamqa.info/en/answers/10471/knowledge-in-islam

>Like what?
What other options besides islam and state-enforced atheism? Hmm... I don't know... how about allowing every religion which isn't based on the premise of destroying every other culture? So every religion except islam?

Answer my question:
Do you only see flaws in islam?
Do you think that modern buddhism is still what it was when it was brought to this world by Shakyamuni?
Does christianity have no flaws (hint: catholic church)
Does Judaism have no flaws (hint: every true jew should become a christian)

Like I said, traditionalism is the most important and got meddled with throughout history often. Traditional culture has great mysteries, art and morals and allowed people to live a righteous and fullfilling life. Modern day anti theism does not.

No, you read the fifth lesson in this post's pic related:
...instead of shitting the thread with already debunked borderline-taqiyya bullshit.

Quick rundown: when islam says it loves knowledge, it does NOT give the word the same meaning we do. It doesn't mean knowledge derived from logic and evidence, it only means "knowledge" derived from the holy books. Which always have the priority, even to logic and empirical evidence.

Or.. how about you read your own link? It says clearly that
>"The best of all branches of knowledge are the sciences of sharee’ah through which man comes to know his Lord, and his [His?} Prophet and religion. This is the knowledge with which Allaah honoured His Messenger; He taught it to him so that he might teach it to mankind"

Get it? So called "knowledge" in islam is only attained by studying allah's bullshit.

Professor, tell us the story of how Muslims aren’t allowed to drink because Muhammad and his buddies once drank so much, they blacked the fuck out, woke up the next day to find that one of them had murdered someone and agreed to never drink again.

I fuckin’ love stories about one person ruining something for everyone else because they have no self control. They’re like parables, but they contain no wisdom, the logic is upside down and they’re retarded on their face.

How do you say, “advocation for moderation builds a wise and tempered nation” in Arabic?

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Die goatfucker rapist terrorist die

>Do you only see flaws in islam?
Mostly. Whatever virtue it might have is overshadowed, overwhelmed and utterly crushed by the immense flaws it's built upon, specifically:
- the idea that divine revelations are superior to logic and facts,
- that islam is perfect and therefore no better way of life can ever be achieved, and
- that anyone who disagrees with islam must be censored and/or killed.
Nothing can save an ideology which starts from this deadly foundation.

>Do you think that modern buddhism is still what it was when it was brought to this world by Shakyamuni?
No, just like no other religion is exactly as its founder intended it. So? What does this change about islam's deathly flaws?
This is nothing more than whataboutism.

>Does christianity have no flaws (hint: catholic church)
Oh no, he hinted at the catholic church. That really opened my mind, I though christianity was perfect.
Shit, is he gonna talk about pedohilia in the church as well? That might blow my mind.
(This is more whataboutism, by the way. Christianity might be composed entirely of murderous, insane, greedy pedophiles, it wouldn't mean that islam is fine or a better alternative. It would only mean that christianity would ALSO need to be destroyed.)

>Does Judaism have no flaws
Even more whataboutism. Was there a sale at the bullshit store?

>anti theism
One thing is being against atheism, quite another thing is defending islam, the most arrogant, obscurantist, inbred, pedophilic religion ever created.

2nd of January should be the International Kafir Haram Day

Smoking and drinking are bad habits with no real benefits. Best to cut them entirely

Calm down, burger. We're all friends here.

>modern theism

Thank every upper floor that infiltrated every religious structure, Israel designed the for-profit mega church phenomenon to keep followers on standby

Really just thank Remphan for that

How about slavery and pedophilia?