Spain joins France and the Fatherland in new 6th gen AI super jet fighter

>Let's take the F-35 and make it MORE overcomplicated

Gaaaahaahahaha yeah this sounds like a German idea.

>Somalia
they typically go to the UK

You probably mean Iran or Turkey

No, better. The Fatherland’s superfight, to be called V-3, will be so beautiful, it’s going to be awesome.

Hans knows whats up.
It will take 10 years of beurocracy, 10 years of engineering and planning and 10 years of agreements between factory unions and lobbyists in Brüssels debating who builds what parts where because pork barrel spending, before even a fucking prototype rolls out. By then it will have a price tag 3x that of a F35 and will already have been rendered obsolote by a new generation US fighter.

Who cares, it just has to fly and be a platform for super beam weapons.

>outclass the f-35
for what purpose?

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Why not? Every military needs something designed by committee. See: Tornado MRCA, Eurofighter, F-35, etc. Of the three mentioned, only the Tornado had a mostly drama-free development cycle (except for some scepticism in U.K. media circles).

Another Euro joint fighter project won't produce anything that would come close to what we have by the time our next-gen platforms enter service.

Pardon my ignorance Germany, but what exactly is the point of having military technology if you literally let the worlds scum cross your borders with no resistance?

To attack you with out Russian buddies protecting our right flank?

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You can tell from the start it will be an endless development. Hell Eurofighter took allmost 30 years to come into assembly lines and that was in pretty much ideal political conditions.
And this... well Spain pretty much does not have an aviation industry and on other half France has it all.
Probably Spain's part in this is pure financial.

>that could

In your fucking dreams euros, enjoy the next 30 years of decline top kek

The same could be said to America, us and you. Remember that you and America are in a worse shape than any European nation, there is no point shit flinging.

When was the last time Spain did anything significant?

That’s the opposite of true actually

You could just build fighter drones for that because that's the way future warfare is going. Bunch of armies equipped with guided munitions and directed long range energy weapons fucking each other up from extreme ranges. It will be the wars of the button pushers.

I can already picture it. The pilot with a baguette up his ass and a "wurst" shoved in his mouth cracking a pair of chestnuts. A terrifying sight idd!

That's exactly what I fear will happen. Or look at the Airbus A400.
European military developments can happen cooperatively but they do have to be under the clear leadership of one entity so that they don't add new requirements every few months.

AI will eventually outclass pilots from any nation because robots don't have to worry about g-forces. just remember to give it a self-destruct function, you crazy krauts.

Kek, sure lad whatever you say.

>chestnuts
I meant castanets

hasn't spain been building the same submarine for 30 years because they tried to build it without a slide rule.

Good. Once based Europeans take over we will have these cool jets to help enforce the border.

This. For the next 30 years, the F-35 (after it's teething troubles are worked out) will be the bleeding-edge fighter among NATO member states. To fill in the gaps in the airforces, expect the aging Tornado and Mirage 2000 to soldier on with upgrades. Lockheed-Martin will also make a killing with F-16 upgrade packages.

The Typhoon and Rafael are good platforms. Too bad they're too expensive for most of NATO's air forces with tight post-Cold War budgets. And I suspect the reason the Gripen isn't a hot item is because of snobbery toward Swedish warplanes (which, historically, tended to be good).

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You're looking at another century before true AI warplanes. Manned combat platforms will still play a major role into the foreseeable future. And this crap about drones doing all of the dangerous, heavy lifting in future conflicts between major state actors is a pipe dream.

Does the eurofighter work now?

it's cheaper to buy burger ones
but whatever
I'd rather have taxes spent on that, than on transvestites, whores, and ungrateful illegals

Go read a book, america is in a great position and will be on the ascendant for decades to come

Good luck.

They performed well in operations over Libya.

This is the perfect EU both in terms of countries and legislation. We should step back from all further developments that had been undertaken since.

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an Israeli dog or a muslim cuckold
i wonder which is better
but you would know, wouldn't you, abdul

That's debatable.
On average american planes cost on usually twice the price of the same role russian fighter. Chinese get the price marks even lower.
Real devil hides in details, when you buy a combat aircraft you buy a subscruption to it's maitenance, spair parts and weapons.
From the technological side, you can buy cutting edge F-35 but US will not give you any technology if you did not participate in multibillion development program from the start. So the'll milk the fuck out from you for the jets themself in you'll find yourself in a situation where your defence is directly correlates with your current realtionship with US. Turks got it hard.

Didn’t they sink your armada?

Just an FYI ...the F35 first flew back in 2006

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Britain is hedging it's bets. We might see the return of Britain's military aviation industry to it's former heights.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Tempest

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well so did we
not that much of an achievement

Stay jelly.

how come
ai jets are basically big guided missiles

Hans, we're all racists here, so please understand that this is not a thing against you personally, but your people are predisposed towards autism. The chronic problem with German military hardware is that it ends up being wildly overbuilt and impossible to maintain without teutonic wizard-engineers on staff.

Do you actually think that the French can maintain something designed by Germans? No, forget about the French--the SPANISH? When was the last time the Spanish fixed something other than a horse race?

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Also the F22 first flew back in 1997

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I certainly hope there are no conflicts between major state actors past the 2050 mark. Humanity itself might not recover.

>Ready for first flight in 2038
>To be used by the then Muslim EU government to bomb white settlements

>return of Britain's military aviation industry to it's former heights.
Nah.
Nobody believes in britain including brits. And Britain for about 15 years barely able to make anything on it's own considering the fact there is no pure national british military corporations, only multinational conglomartes. Considering this it's safe to say new "british" development is as british as it's an american or australian for that matter.

fight our wars for us, goys

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mutts on suicide watch!

>Spanish engineers

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Come on lad be honest.

>spend 40 years to develop an airplane
>when it finally sees combat it's already outclassed

F35 was nothing more than lockheed raping taxpayers out of a trillion dollars.

Thats good. Its a neat looking aircraft though I heard it went through some issues

>australian
I'm pretty sure we own the largest defence company in Australia.

Informational warfare. Drones can be countered by jamming, network sabotage, etc. That's why Russia and China is investing so heavily in new IW technologies and practical applications. And that's why the Pentagon puts so much emphasis on the aerial battlespace networking capabilities of the F-22 and F-35 (both manned platforms) for UCAV's like the X-47 and future UCLASS drones.

Unmanned warplanes will not be truly autonomous until true AI is developed and deployed. They'll continue to rely on vulnerable networks to operate.

That's entirely possible. Non-nuclear military technology is getting more and more scary.

I am genuinely interested in hearing what countries that have bought the F35 think of it

The USMC F-35B has already seen use bombing goat fuckers in Ragheadistan. The Kike Reich seems to be happy with theirs, already using them in a couple of strikes against sandniggers.

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I could build a bi plane that can outclass the f35

It did. Most of it was political bullshit.

The linked article does say that there would be Italian and MBDA (Euro) involvement. So, yeah, there will be an international element to it.

Germany's going to do all the hard work.

Thanks for the info

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>outclass the F-35
Unlikely. No fighter of theirs will produce more patronage jobs and defense contractor profits than the F-35.

>chinese
I'd rather pay for something that works
plus, to buy american, I'd rather go to the source instead of the copy
>russian
suboptimal, and no one wants to mantain in russian. all our systems are NATO ones

>spanish jet

what could possibly go wrong

? why? have you heard of airbus?

what is the Rafale ?

The British planes?

Is this going to beat the SR-72 in air superiority?

Ninja turtle

EU shouldn't ever have been anything else but France, Germany and the Benelux tbw, maybe Austria but nothing else and with tight border control around it.. If it had been just that we would have had a common military, a federal government and actually the means to project ourselves onto the world while still having neighbouring countries licking our boots decades ago. Instead we got a bureaucratic nightmare. Extremly weak political power. Virtually no borders with the outside world. The Euro ruined southern countries which borders are wide open to mass immigration and we are stuck being a conglomerate of 28 countries that can't agree on anything. The EU is fucked because it tried to be too much and to its core is a neoliberal organization.

Would you really want Germans to decide the fate of French men?

France has been weaker than Germany since the late 1800's user. It's not like we had much of a say whenever they invaded, wreaked havoc. Both our countries are decended from Charlemagne's empire. Anyway I don't see how different it would be from now, despite our nukes and military Germany is still a far richer country.

Absofuckinglutelt. Fuck the SR-72 and its evil look.

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>The Euro ruined southern countries which borders are wide open to mass immigration
and therein lies the purpose.
i'm convinced it was set up to eventually fail.
and the more it falls apart the more a civil war looks inevitable down the road

As the US can no longer rule the world, the EU will. Thanks for your service, but you have failed.

china will
EU is as decadent, if not more, as USA

mfw the jet out classes the F35 at carrying refugees to safety

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So it will be an overly complicated, overengineered piece of crap that breaks down wihout a possibility of a quick repair governed by an arrogant AI who refuses to communicate in english and has siesta/sleeps 20 hours a day.

Genious.

So a ramjet has no moving parts?

Yeah, no. The 35 has one strike package delivered to one airframe loss

Blow air out of your mouth, then blow air out of a straw. That's a ramjet

Europe can build good cars. So...i think they can build a good fighter.

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All this tech will lead to societal collapse.

Yes, the air gets heated up by the compression at high speeds. That's why a ramjet engine needs to be started by another thing. It can't just go and start itself from the tarmac.

>and therein lies the purpose.
Obviously.

*Also i think europeans can outsmart burgers.

>outclass the f-35
not very dificult. You just have to make one that flies. a biplane should do the trick. I dn't know why 3 countries joined to do such task

Not quite, Ivan.

France and Sweden build good planes but shit cars. Germany and Italy build good cars but shit planes.

You have fun with that

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>When was the last time the Spanish fixed something other than a horse race?
kek

People realized that the industrial revolution lead humanity to experience an unfulfilling/depressing life with little empathy towards others. Technology is not frowned upon, but rapid industrialization is.

arent scramjet a thing since the mid 80s?

whats new with this one?

>German engineering
>French management
>Spanish work ethic
Its gonna be a disaster

Airbreathing rocket.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABRE_(rocket_engine)